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onebadbeast 10-23-2007 01:16 AM

Pats Vs Colts
 
This Game On November 4th Will Probably Be Much Better Than This Years Superbowl. The Afc Superbowl On This Day.....

pmayjr 10-23-2007 07:26 AM

No the rematch of these 2 teams in the AFC Championship will be this year's Super Bowl. But I'm also looking forward to game 1 between the 2 teams.

JJP 10-23-2007 07:30 AM

Jacksonville may have had one of the dumbest game plans I've ever seen last night. Everyone knows that the Colts D is undersized & built for speed. So what do the Jags can't wait to do? They throw, throw, throw. It wasn't until the opening drive of the second half that they ran. Which got them their only score. So how do they follow it up? From their own 3 yard line with an absolutely brutal QB, they can't wait to throw. And Freeney proceeds to sack that brutal backup QB for a safety.

SniperSB23 10-23-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JJP
Jacksonville may have had one of the dumbest game plans I've ever seen last night. Everyone knows that the Colts D is undersized & built for speed. So what do the Jags can't wait to do? They throw, throw, throw. It wasn't until the opening drive of the second half that they ran. Which got them their only score. So how do they follow it up? From their own 3 yard line with an absolutely brutal QB, they can't wait to throw. And Freeney proceeds to sack that brutal backup QB for a safety.

The only reason they were able to score even that one time was cause of the big kickoff return giving them a short field. I doubt they could have run the ball the length of the field on the Colts the way Sanders was stepping up and stopping everything for no gain.

declansharbor 10-23-2007 10:29 AM

The Patriots will be brought back down to earth this week against the Skins. Mark it down folk.

The Colts will be the last undefeated team in the league. Their defense is as potent as Peyton is on third down. That's pretty damn potent. Bob Sanders flys around like he's the wicked witch from the west. Hands down, the best safety in football when healthy.

Coach Pants 10-23-2007 10:31 AM

Jack Del Rio is a bad head coach. The pass play in the end zone with the undrafted backup QB that resulted in a safety should cost him his job.

Mortimer 10-23-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Jack Del Rio is a bad head coach. The pass play in the end zone with the undrafted backup QB that resulted in a safety should cost him his job.


No excuse for failing to do so ,sir.



Of course, as my fans damn well know, I made the correct call in this game.


Again.

declansharbor 10-23-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I can appreciate going out on a limb. But no way. The Skins were lucky to manage a win against the Cardinals, at home. New England beats them by 14 minimum.

I hear ya Hoss, most people that I tout that to suggest I be put in a straight jacket and be fed meds. I just think that their secondary lines up well against that all star wr corps. If Gibbs was half smart, he'd attempt to run the ball down NE's throat, using all 3 backs (Betts, Portis, and Sellers), which in effect, would set up the play action to their speed ball receivers. I think, if and a big if, Washington can control the clock better than other teams have been doing against NE, this can be a tight ballgame that can go either way.

I'm probably trying to justify my train of thought, but its worth a shot. NE has to lose sometime, or do they? Skins "get up" for a good AFC team every year, why not NE this time around.

Go Birds. Take the fork out of us and bench Westy so that we get a better draft pick.

viscount26 10-23-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I can appreciate going out on a limb. But no way. The Skins were lucky to manage a win against the Cardinals, at home. New England beats them by 14 minimum.

Hoss,
I'm glad that you think so. The Redskins offense is a joke. They should have lost that game. NE will win by 14 at least

Go Pats

ninetoone 10-23-2007 01:08 PM

NE won't cover this week, no way. Feel free to use this info to bet the opposite way.

viscount26 10-23-2007 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
NE won't cover this week, no way. Feel free to use this info to bet the opposite way.

Blech

Mortimer 10-23-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Blech


OOOOOOOOOO

viscount26 10-23-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
OOOOOOOOOO

2 Team parlay for the week-end. Morty's Buck nuts and the Pats
:D

kenny p 10-23-2007 02:34 PM

Take the 16

viscount26 10-23-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny p
Take the 16

Vegas keeps increasing that line, and we still cover
:cool:

Danzig 10-23-2007 02:42 PM

the skins fan in me is hoping for the best, and their secondary is good.

BUT, hoping and the secondary aren't enough. i think the pats win this wknd.



and next wknd too.

viscount26 10-23-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
the skins fan in me is hoping for the best, and their secondary is good.

BUT, hoping and the secondary aren't enough. i think the pats win this wknd.



and next wknd too.

Now, the Line for that may be very interesting. I'll guess Indie by one on Nov 4th
:rolleyes:

Scav 10-23-2007 03:03 PM

More interesting question
 
is what is the line when it is Pats vs Indy.....It is at Indy and NE will be favored by 5-7 points. The Dude is right, what a monster game

Scav 10-23-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Now, the Line for that may be very interesting. I'll guess Indie by one on Nov 4th
:rolleyes:

There is zero shot at Indy being favored in that game, zero

SniperSB23 10-23-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
There is zero shot at Indy being favored in that game, zero

Going by the pure points in the Sagarin as of right now New England would be two point favorites at Indy.

viscount26 10-23-2007 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
There is zero shot at Indy being favored in that game, zero

Tommy,
If the Colts and my Pats are both undefeated. Vegas will give the edge to Indy IMO

Mortimer 10-23-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Tommy,
If the Colts and my Pats are both undefeated. Vegas will give the edge to Indy IMO

I have a notion you are right.

kenny p 10-23-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Vegas keeps increasing that line, and we still cover
:cool:

NE is 7 and 0 against the spread They could be lookin ahead to Indy. Let the number go up ..the more the better. Good Luck KP

viscount26 10-23-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I have a notion you are right.

Thank you kind sir.

Scav 10-23-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Tommy,
If the Colts and my Pats are both undefeated. Vegas will give the edge to Indy IMO

Your out of your mind. Vegas makes the spread for one reason and one reason only, to get EVEN action on the game so they can make their money on the juice. If they make Indy the favorites, it will be the most uneven game in the history of sports wagering. More then the games that that kid at ASU fixed. Maybe 5-7 is a little high but NE will at least be a 3pt favorite, that will get even action

viscount26 10-23-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Your out of your mind. Vegas makes the spread for one reason and one reason only, to get EVEN action on the game so they can make their money on the juice. If they make Indy the favorites, it will be the most uneven game in the history of sports wagering. More then the games that that kid at ASU fixed. Maybe 5-7 is a little high but NE will at least be a 3pt favorite, that will get even action

I'm not going to get into this with you of all people. We will have to see come next Monday
:cool:

Cannon Shell 10-23-2007 09:09 PM

NE will be 3 1/2 over Indy assuming all major players healthy. NE will beat Wash by 21+ unless bad weather.

declansharbor 10-23-2007 09:18 PM

Damnnnnnnnnnnn, 21 pts???? Thats alot of points to lay for a team that might POSSIBLY be overlooking WAS for the 11/04 game with INDy. Trap games do exist and this has the making for one. I could totally be wrong and most likely am, but I think Washington has something up their sleeves for NE. Gibbs is playing the part of the wounded elk a little too well.

Cannon Shell 10-23-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Damnnnnnnnnnnn, 21 pts???? Thats alot of points to lay for a team that might POSSIBLY be overlooking WAS for the 11/04 game with INDy. Trap games do exist and this has the making for one. I could totally be wrong and most likely am, but I think Washington has something up their sleeves for NE. Gibbs is playing the part of the wounded elk a little too well.

You are right. He has seemed clueless since....1990? Just biding his time...

The Pats will not overlook anyone because they and the coach seem to relish beating the hell out of everybody. They are not worried about fallout or anything else. The only way Washington covers is if Belichek simply does not want to show too much or the weather is bad and the field is slippery. If the weather is good Pats will score 35 and Washington has almost no chance to score more than 14 without a bunch of turnovers.

pgardn 10-23-2007 10:24 PM

The Redskins will be the toughest test so far.
They play to stay close and with confidence.
This is not like the Cowboys who actually think
they can go out and play even up football with
a machine. When the Cowboys got some mistakes
out of NE, they should have rammed the ball down
the throat. Keep the ball away from Brady. Trying to
outscore NE is madness. Patience and hope for mistakes.

Washington may be able to accomplish this.
The goal is first downs and keeping the ball.
This is also why I think INdy has a chance against
the machine. Indy plays smart football.

Cannon Shell 10-23-2007 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
The Redskins will be the toughest test so far.
They play to stay close and with confidence.
This is not like the Cowboys who actually think
they can go out and play even up football with
a machine. When the Cowboys got some mistakes
out of NE, they should have rammed the ball down
the throat. Keep the ball away from Brady. Trying to
outscore NE is madness. Patience and hope for mistakes.

Washington may be able to accomplish this.
The goal is first downs and keeping the ball.
This is also why I think INdy has a chance against
the machine. Indy plays smart football.

Wanna bet?

pgardn 10-23-2007 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Wanna bet?

I will take Washington with the line?
Yes. I will take that. We will have to decide
how many points. If its wash. +16 or 17 im in.
What is the line (which house)? Gotta be around 16 or 17?

deltagulf 10-24-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Damnnnnnnnnnnn, 21 pts???? Thats alot of points to lay for a team that might POSSIBLY be overlooking WAS for the 11/04 game with INDy. Trap games do exist and this has the making for one. I could totally be wrong and most likely am, but I think Washington has something up their sleeves for NE. Gibbs is playing the part of the wounded elk a little too well.

i will say the pats will not be looking ahead to indy. bill tells them every week one game at a time. dont look ahead,your record is 0 and 0 going into this game. it has worked for the last several years. and will again.

Cannon Shell 10-24-2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I will take Washington with the line?
Yes. I will take that. We will have to decide
how many points. If its wash. +16 or 17 im in.
What is the line (which house)? Gotta be around 16 or 17?

Make it 16 1/2 and we got a bet!!

Danzig 10-24-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Make it 16 1/2 and we got a bet!!

that's the line in todays paper.

Danzig 10-24-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deltagulf
i will say the pats will not be looking ahead to indy. bill tells them every week one game at a time. dont look ahead,your record is 0 and 0 going into this game. it has worked for the last several years. and will again.

does he say we all need to be on the same page?

pgardn 10-24-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Make it 16 1/2 and we got a bet!!

Allrighty then 17. 7 + 7 + 3 = push.

How much, when and where?

Cannon Shell 10-24-2007 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Allrighty then 17. 7 + 7 + 3 = push.

How much, when and where?

Ball is in your court.

pgardn 10-24-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Ball is in your court.

Actually I just lobbed it back to your part of the court.

Should we trade in raw materials, or currency?


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