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2MinsToPost 09-30-2007 04:56 PM

Poor Taste ESPN
 
The comments about calling the County Jail and asking if they had ESPN and then following it up with the comment about how important their one phone call would be today was poor taste.

This is in reference to the Curlin connections obviously. Very poor taste and I am shocked that they, the group that was calling this race, showed that side on the air. Very bush league and did not do the industry any favors when it comes to image.

justindew 09-30-2007 05:01 PM

I respectfully disagree. It was refreshing to see people connected to the sport say what they really think for a change, unafraid to possibly upset someone. When I was writing for KentuckyDerby.com, I spoke to a well-known retired jockey for 1/2 hour about the Derby field. I asked him which horse he would choose to ride if given the chance, and he said "Street Sense. No doubt." I asked him if I could print that, and he said "Oh no. No no no no. I don't want to get in trouble." Then he said, "In fact, it's probably best if you don't write any of this."

ArlJim78 09-30-2007 05:02 PM

its not professional and has no place. not all of Curlins owners are in jail.

2MinsToPost 09-30-2007 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Please. The guys are in jail for allegedly screwing people out of 60 million or so dollars. Phuck them. This is what prompts you to comment and not the race. This sport is in a lot of trouble...

And does not need this kinda bush league race calling. Talk about the race, the Breeders Cup, anything but this kinda childish crap that is lower then low.
I understand what they are charged with but it had no place in the broadcast today, none. Especially with the way it was said.

Coach Pants 09-30-2007 05:12 PM

ESPN should be banned. How dare they make fun of swindling whores?

fpsoxfan 09-30-2007 05:13 PM

I wonder if they found out their horse won. "Hey Red I understand you are a man who knows how to get things. Can you get me a Youbet account in cell block 14?"

sumitas 09-30-2007 05:17 PM

Please, ESPN made it clear the 2 scoundrels in jail are 20% owners of Curlin. I did not see a thing wrong with it, imo.

Danzig 09-30-2007 06:19 PM

and it's been mentioned elsewhere that the reason curlin has no stud deal, unlike the other 'big' colts, is because of those two yahoos.
so they mentioned where two of his owners are--so what? espn shouldn't be embarrassed about it, the two crooks should. it's a shame that curlin is with the group he's with, he's a sweet horse who doesn't get much press compared to the others because of his crappy connections.

Fearless Leader 09-30-2007 06:31 PM

If ESPN had any decency, they would have set up a live 2-way feed so the owners could watch and then be in the "virtual winners circle" in the visitors room. It would have been very classy for Randy Moss to interview the managing owners of Curlin via CELL phone.

Hickory Hill Hoff 09-30-2007 06:43 PM

It's ESPN... for christ sake!

Would you expect anything different with them?

Two days of Breeder's Cup coverage with them ought be a treat!

VOL JACK 09-30-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
its not professional and has no place. not all of Curlins owners are in jail.

U remind me of the the vick and O.J. supporters. Please these are crooks, if we can't laugh at them who can we laugh at?

hi_im_god 09-30-2007 07:29 PM

take any creative endeavour and tell the participants not to offend anyone.

what you get is 98% of what's on tv.

i'm really sorry i missed one of the exceptions.


















new motto for our society:

"give me pablum of give me death"

PPerfectfan 09-30-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
Please, ESPN made it clear the 2 scoundrels in jail are 20% owners of Curlin. I did not see a thing wrong with it, imo.

I dont either, awwww they got their feelings hurt? poor them, I just cant seem to pull up any real sympanthy for them, I think I will save that for the people they screwed over for millions.

blackthroatedwind 09-30-2007 07:58 PM

If you want to complain about something you should complain about them making light of a situation where people were defrauded out of millions of dollars. I'm sorry for the victims....not the perpetrators of the crime.

31lengths 09-30-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
I dont either, awwww they got their feelings hurt? poor them, I just cant seem to pull up any real sympanthy for them, I think I will save that for the people they screwed over for millions.

Me neither. In fact I doubt their feelings were hurt considering they probably had none in the first place. Not to mention they couldn't see the feed from ESPN. After all....it IS jail and SOME "privledges" should be held back anyway.

ArlJim78 09-30-2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
U remind me of the the vick and O.J. supporters. Please these are crooks, if we can't laugh at them who can we laugh at?

i'm no supporter of those two for sure, just look in esoteric. we can laugh at them and we do, ON HERe. i'm not saying they're fine people or that we shouldn't have a laugh and i have no sympathy for them. i just thought that it wasn't the right place for it.
why don't they have a laugh and make fun of every trainer whose served a drug violation? anyone with a substance abuse issue that we don't know about? how about reviewing court documents to see if they can dig up dirt on any and all owners that had starters today? lets have some jokes on those people as well. not every show has to follow the TMZ format.

blackthroatedwind 09-30-2007 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 31lengths
Me neither. In fact I doubt their feelings were hurt considering they probably had none in the first place. Not to mention they couldn't see the feed from ESPN. After all....it IS jail and SOME "privledges" should be held back anyway.


I heard they are being punished severely today.....they were forced to watch the Mets game.

philcski 09-30-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I heard they are being punished severely today.....they were forced to watch the Mets game.

OOOOOOOOOO

as a huge Met fan, I'm glad I chose to avoid the TV's that had it on today.

If they want to make light of something bad about Curlin, how about the fact that he's trained by a guy who has had 25 drug suspensions???

Cannon Shell 09-30-2007 08:41 PM

They didn't mention the fact that the fine gentlemen of Midnight Cry have transferred their horses including Einstein to Mr. Assmussen. Best wishes guys...

Cannon Shell 09-30-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Now that is truly in bad taste. I'm not sure what more Helen Pitts could have done with Einstein.

Given their current digs, maybe they wanted someone a little "dirtier" that they could identify with.

blackthroatedwind 09-30-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Now that is truly in bad taste. I'm not sure what more Helen Pitts could have done with Einstein.

I'm not so sure I agree. Didn't she run him right back at Pimlico after the Churchill debacle?

pmayjr 09-30-2007 08:48 PM

I didn't see anything wrong with the comments. You speak like you're one of the 2 guys in jail right now lol.

blackthroatedwind 09-30-2007 08:54 PM

I'm not picking on her. She seems like a good trainer and it's not an easy game for women to succeed. I'm sorry she lost the horse, especially to a guy with 1800 horses, but I'm just offering a reason why perhaps they were unhappy.

Cannon Shell 09-30-2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm not so sure I agree. Didn't she run him right back at Pimlico after the Churchill debacle?

I believe on "Dr's orders"...

Cannon Shell 09-30-2007 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm not picking on her. She seems like a good trainer and it's not an easy game for women to succeed. I'm sorry she lost the horse, especially to a guy with 1800 horses, but I'm just offering a reason why perhaps they were unhappy.

other than being in prison?

miraja2 09-30-2007 11:06 PM

My only real problem with the ESPN coverage was that they didn't use the phrase "win and you're in" quite enough for my taste.
I would have liked to hear it at least 400 times, and I think they barely made it over 250.

Linny 09-30-2007 11:16 PM

I was standing watching the winners' circle proceedings and my friend asked me if I heard a humming sound. I said "what humming?" and he replied: It's the sound of all those ankle bracelets going off in one place.

It's hard to get behind this horse (who I admit I love) when the owners have such a poor reputation. Jackson and Padua have been screaming about transparency and when asked about the details of their purchase of Curlin said "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!" And they are the ones who are out.

ArlJim78 10-01-2007 08:40 AM

this sideshow with his connections takes the focus off of what an incredible performer Curlin is.

whodey17 10-01-2007 08:46 AM

I thought it was hilarious. The owners (maybe not all) are crooks.

Coach Pants 10-01-2007 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
this sideshow with his connections takes the focus off of what an incredible performer Curlin is.

I take it you would be O.K. with ESPN ignoring Curlin if he were owned by Michael Vick.

ArlJim78 10-01-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I take it you would be O.K. with ESPN ignoring Curlin if he were owned by Michael Vick.

great hypothetical question. you couldn't ignore it because his story is larger than the horses story, it would all depend on how it was handled.
NBC would be the place where these types of human interest stories normally get fleshed out. maybe some people like that stuff, i don't. I just want the racing.

GBBob 10-01-2007 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't think it does at all. They made a quick mention before the race. It's not like they did a huge segment on it. It was a 30 second piece at most and after the race there was no mention of it.

I think it's part of the story. If they can do a piece on what a wonderful man Jim Tafel is, then they have to/should show the other side as well.

Thank god Michael Vick didn't own horses

avance2000 10-01-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
My only real problem with the ESPN coverage was that they didn't use the phrase "win and you're in" quite enough for my taste.
I would have liked to hear it at least 400 times, and I think they barely made it over 250.

yup. there has been a real problem in the past where gold cup winners couldnt get into the classic. thank god they implemented this system.

ArlJim78 10-01-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't think it does at all. They made a quick mention before the race. It's not like they did a huge segment on it. It was a 30 second piece at most and after the race there was no mention of it.

this is a nothing issue imo, and its real simple. a couple people thought it didn't belong, others saw it as no problem. i don't think there is much else to cover on this one.

GBBob 10-01-2007 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
this is a nothing issue imo, and its real simple. a couple people thought it didn't belong, others saw it as no problem. i don't think there is much else to cover on this one.

Jim..I know I'm relatively new here, but that's not how this works. We need at least 5 more pages on this


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