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nebrady 09-28-2007 10:15 AM

Winner of central should forfeit playoff spot in nl
 
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!

GBBob 09-28-2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!

I was reading the playoff scenarios if all 4 end up tied..They would have to play additional playoff games Mon Tues and Wed just to figure out who gets in!

Scav 09-28-2007 10:45 AM

i think the Cubs clinch tonight. Cubs win and Brewers lose. Both games on local TV here. OH MAN, the thumb will be working hard tonight

GBBob 09-28-2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
i think the Cubs clinch tonight. Cubs win and Brewers lose. Both games on local TV here. OH MAN, the thumb will be working hard tonight


as opposed to??

Scav 09-28-2007 11:05 AM

I am usually out and about the next couple of days but I think it might be Tom Time so I can focus on these games. Yelling at the TV undoubtly has an effect on players a bizillion miles away

wiphan 09-28-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!

I agree neither team deserves to be in the playoffs; I am pulling for the Phils (mets don't deserve the playoffs either) and Rockies (wow what a streak) to make the playoffs.

GBBob 09-28-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan
I agree neither team deserves to be in the playoffs; I am pulling for the Phils (mets don't deserve the playoffs either) and Rockies (wow what a streak) to make the playoffs.


OK..Time to switch gears..

so..who the hell do we cheer for this weekend..Detroit or..cough, cough...the Bears? A case can be made for either. Who do you think is more dangerous in the long run?

wiphan 09-28-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
OK..Time to switch gears..

so..who the hell do we cheer for this weekend..Detroit or..cough, cough...the Bears? A case can be made for either. Who do you think is more dangerous in the long run?


Neither team looks like much of a threat to me this year. It will be interesting to see how Griese is though. If he is terrible, who are they going to blame? The bears have a very subpar running game and possibly one #2 wide receiver in Berrian. I think the lions offense is a definite threat, but they can't stop anybody. We should be able to roll over either, and nothing would make me happier than to see the bears start the season at 1-3 and then go to lambeau to make it 1-4. Go Lions!

Cannon Shell 09-28-2007 11:58 AM

Nebrady
Did you forget so quickly about last years central winner that probably "didn't deserve to be in"?
They wound up doing pretty well in the WS

Cannon Shell 09-28-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
OK..Time to switch gears..

so..who the hell do we cheer for this weekend..Detroit or..cough, cough...the Bears? A case can be made for either. Who do you think is more dangerous in the long run?

You must root against the Bears. I dont think that it would be kosher to actually root for either team but Detroit is Detroit.

jman5581 09-28-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Nebrady
Did you forget so quickly about last years central winner that probably "didn't deserve to be in"?
They wound up doing pretty well in the WS

Good thing they didn't give up their spot in the NLCS!! :D

viscount26 09-28-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Nebrady
Did you forget so quickly about last years central winner that probably "didn't deserve to be in"?
They wound up doing pretty well in the WS

Chuck,
I spent a wonderful evening in Shea for game 7 in the NLCS, surrounded by Mets fans who knew I was a Cardinals fan
:D

Crown@club 09-28-2007 01:25 PM

Ooops looks like I replied to the wrong thread. (well just editted it)

I'll say it again here that already been said by others.

But I'll repeat.

TELL THAT TO THE CARDINALS LAST YEAR!

Supah Brother 09-28-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!



How about those white sox!!! What we have here is another sore southsider.

Cannon Shell 09-28-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Chuck,
I spent a wonderful evening in Shea for game 7 in the NLCS, surrounded by Mets fans who knew I was a Cardinals fan
:D

I'm sure they were pleasant

viscount26 09-28-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm sure they were pleasant

Yeah. It's like a morgue in my Office today. Met fans hanging themselves from every space. Especially after Piniero pitched like a Cy Young candidate last night
:rolleyes:

jman5581 09-28-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm sure they were pleasant

Can't be anymore pleasant than the Scrubs fans that come to Busch. God, what a bunch of piss ants they are...

Why is it that most Scrubs fans want their OWN name on the back of a Cubs jersey?!?! It's retarded, and probably about the dumbest thing one can do at a MLB game is to wear a team's jersey with YOUR OWN name on the back of it. It's just a pet peeve of mine, and it's very prevalent in the Scrubs fanbase.

Supah Brother 09-28-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jman5581
Can't be anymore pleasant than the Scrubs fans that come to Busch. God, what a bunch of piss ants they are...

Why is it that most Scrubs fans want their OWN name on the back of a Cubs jersey?!?! It's retarded, and probably about the dumbest thing one can do at a MLB game is to wear a team's jersey with YOUR OWN name on the back of it. It's just a pet peeve of mine, and it's very prevalent in the Scrubs fanbase.


Cardinals fans take it in the Pujols... :D

SCUDSBROTHER 09-28-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!

Reminds me of some of the crazy stuff that someTurks write on YOUTUBE.Their whole answer to that Armenian Genocide is mainly that they only killed a half million(not the "absurd 1.5 million" that is reported.) The other part is that the Armenians wanted to start their own country.So,naturally they had to be offed.Sorry to change the subject..It just sounded a lot like them.I mean changing the rules at a moments notice. Actually they just write the laws in a very general way(and that way they can interpret them "as needed" to handle the situation at hand.)

Cannon Shell 09-28-2007 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Reminds me of some of the crazy stuff that someTurks write on YOUTUBE.Their whole answer to that Armenian Genocide is mainly that they only killed a half million(not the "absurd 1.5 million" that is reported.) The other part is that the Armenians wanted to start their own country.So,naturally they had to be offed.Sorry to change the subject..It just sounded a lot like them.I mean changing the rules at a moments notice. Actually they just write the laws in a very general way(and that way they can interpret them "as needed" to handle the situation at hand.)

Only you could manage to fit Armenian Genocide in a thread about the NL Central

SCUDSBROTHER 09-28-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm surprised people know about the genocide. I wrote a paper about it in college and no joke, not one person in my class knew it had happened. Kind of sad actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOX5Y...elated&search=

Believe me,it could easily happen again.If ya read some of the many threads these Turks start,you will see how they crave killing Greeks,Armenians etc.It's not like they are sorry that Turks killed all those Armenians.They constantly make videos glorifying their military.If you read the comments they have ,you'll see how they like to "conquer." They aren't ever talking about protecting.They always talk about "we conquered." Like this fine comment here:

"When Turks conquered India, Turkish general Alp the Horseman asked a Indian tavern keeper, "how can Turks defeat 100 000 indians with 15 000 Horsemen?"
Indian answered "Can rice Eaters stand against Turks who eat a full sheep in 1 time?"

trifecta124 09-28-2007 11:24 PM

My team sucks.......What a disgrace. Even if they come back and tie it up, they really don't deserve to win.

Congratulations to the Phillies.

SCUDSBROTHER 09-29-2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by trifecta124
My team sucks.......What a disgrace. Even if they come back and tie it up, they really don't deserve to win.

Congratulations to the Phillies.

Well,I am very surprised,because they seemed to be able to skid away from the Phillies whenever they got close in the standings,but not this last time.I don't know why you guys were losing.All I know is when the Dodgers played you,your shortstop and 3rd baseman destroyed us.I guess those 2 stopped doing that.Wouldn't have taken much to hold on comfortably..i.e. Padres..a HUGE amount of people thought the Mets were easily going to the World Series.Chucksta follows baseball fairly close,and thought they were easily best(I think.) I thought they and the DBACKS WOULD FIGHT IT OUT.Padres are the most mentally tough team(as far as making the post.)They are determined each year to make that post,and then they have no hitting at all when they get there.That shortstop(k green) is really coming around though.He may not choke in the post.

horseofcourse 09-29-2007 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!

Call me crazy, but didn't an 83 or 84 win Cardinal team take everyone out last year?? Or am I missing something.

Danzig 09-29-2007 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I am usually out and about the next couple of days but I think it might be Tom Time so I can focus on these games. Yelling at the TV undoubtly has an effect on players a bizillion miles away

glad i'm not the only one....i do know it makes no difference on a dvr game, not only are they far away, they're done playing!!

nebrady 09-29-2007 01:18 PM

Chuck yeah your right about the cardinals and I was hoping someone would bring that up. Playoffs are about whose hot and most important who has the best pitching. Unfortunately or not the best team doesn't always win it. I just think it would be a shame to not see the rockies in the playoffs or my phillies. Who now control their destiny, win two and the east is theirs. Unbelievable! I remember a few weeks ago the phillies were up 8 to 2 on atlanta and the bullpen gave up 7 runs. I though that was the dagger. But manuel and the players never surrendered. Jimmy Rollins is having an absolute great year and should be mentioned for mvp. He had the balls to tell the mets in spring training to watch for the phils. They backed it up and have beaten the mets 8 straight times. The rockies can still get in just beat arizona and have brew crew beat the padres just twice. Who knows who will win it but this time of the year is the best. If you ever get the chance go to the world series its unbelievable. I got to go to the twins-cards in 87 for 2,6 and 7. Its was crazy!:cool:

declansharbor 09-29-2007 02:26 PM

Last night at Citizen's Bank Park was the most surreal feeling I've had in recent memory. Awesome performance from the Phils. It serves Lo Duca and Beltran right, for every time they were questioned about thier inability to beat the Phils, they trumped the "Look at the standings" card. They got what they deserve, which was a total collapse. We pity the team that would have to face our lineup IF we make the postseason. GO PHILS!! and Hard Spun.

SCUDSBROTHER 09-30-2007 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by trifecta124
My team sucks.......What a disgrace. Even if they come back and tie it up, they really don't deserve to win.

Congratulations to the Phillies.

You see some of the crazy stuff Philly was doing on defense Saturday? Some of that reminded me of some pathetic lil league games....Pretty tight playing,and now they gotta rely on Moyer.I'll guess that they both win,and have to have another game.

trifecta124 09-30-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You see some of the crazy stuff Philly was doing on defense Saturday? Some of that reminded me of some pathetic lil league games....Pretty tight playing,and now they gotta rely on Moyer.I'll guess that they both win,and have to have another game.

This NL East race is by far the craziest thing I have ever seen in baseball. What were the odds of John Maine throwing a 14 strikeout no nitter through 7 2/3 on Saturday. It almost seems as though the momentum has shifted back in the Mets direction. The Phillies are a tough team and have hung around all year. The way the Mets have played recently is undeserving of winning the NL East.....but I still want them in the playoffs.

Cannon Shell 09-30-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well,I am very surprised,because they seemed to be able to skid away from the Phillies whenever they got close in the standings,but not this last time.I don't know why you guys were losing.All I know is when the Dodgers played you,your shortstop and 3rd baseman destroyed us.I guess those 2 stopped doing that.Wouldn't have taken much to hold on comfortably..i.e. Padres..a HUGE amount of people thought the Mets were easily going to the World Series.Chucksta follows baseball fairly close,and thought they were easily best(I think.) I thought they and the DBACKS WOULD FIGHT IT OUT.Padres are the most mentally tough team(as far as making the post.)They are determined each year to make that post,and then they have no hitting at all when they get there.That shortstop(k green) is really coming around though.He may not choke in the post.

The Mets clearly have the best lineup in the NL (though Delgado has slipped considerably). They play pretty good d, they have lots of team speed, a passable starting rotation and good closer. But the bullpen was below par and Minaya stood pat at the deadline and that has cost them the division. Big part of the Yankees strong second half was the bullpen going from a liability to a strength. Though the whole team deserves the choke label for their collapse, the GM did not acquire the pitching help that they really needed. In fact you can make a case that in the near future the Mets starting rotation is not far from being totally finished. Glavine does not have much left, Pedro is about done, El Duque is erratic, Perez is wildly inconsistent as usual, the others are average at best. They need lots of help in the bullpen (losing Sanchez was a huge loss) and starting rotation. Personally I dont like Lo Duca very much and the corner outfield positions are really old. Minaya got all the credit when they were rolling, must share the blame when the most talented team in the league doesnt make the playoffs.

Crown@club 10-01-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jman5581
Can't be anymore pleasant than the Scrubs fans that come to Busch. God, what a bunch of piss ants they are...

Why is it that most Scrubs fans want their OWN name on the back of a Cubs jersey?!?! It's retarded, and probably about the dumbest thing one can do at a MLB game is to wear a team's jersey with YOUR OWN name on the back of it. It's just a pet peeve of mine, and it's very prevalent in the Scrubs fanbase.

......they probably got it at a Garage Sale.

Crown@club 10-01-2007 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Glavine does not have much left.

You mean he's not getting that 1 foot off the plate strike call?

whodey17 10-01-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Its gonna be a shame that either the padres, phillies or rockies don't make the playoffs. The central is a joke. Neither team the cubs or brewers deserve to be in the playoffs. The rockies are on fire and as luck has it they end up at home against the diamondbacks. What a story it would be if they won the west. Meanwhile the phillies have finally caught up with the mets. Its been forever since they have been in first place. Whats more amazing is that they are doing it with a pitching staff that has been decimated by injuries. Being a philly fan its been a wild season. Then their are the padres who lost 2 starters in one game. Yet pull out a 2 out homer in top of ninth at san fran to win the other night. Won last night and keep on fighting. Then we go to the central. Sorry cub fans I don't want to hear anything about its our time! Your up by 3 and lose 3 straight to the fish. Worse yet brewers have chance to close the gap and lose 2 straight! Do baseball fans a favor cubs give up your spot to one of the losers in the other two races. You don't deserve to be in the playoffs! Besides every one knows when you lose, you'll blame it on the curse! Bartman! Please the happiest person in chicago was your shortstop who booted the next play for an easy double play. Also you still had to play game seven! So make baseball proud and forfeit your playoff spot to a team that deserves it!

I guess you are forgetting that the Cards won the central in 2006 and went on to win the World Series. The Cards were 83-78. 12 teams had a better record and 5 of them didnt make the playoffs (I believe).


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