A Green Monkey-esque Filly to debut soon
 

Patricia's Gem, who worked a blinkered furlong in 9 3/5ths over Keeneland's polytrack - and was caught galloping out a quarter mile in 20.21 seconds - at the KEE April 2yo under-tack show looks to be on-track for an Oak Tree debut.

After that quick polytrack work, the daughter of Mineshaft out of a Forty Niner mare sold for $1.75 million.

Her 2nd dam is the Del Mar Oaks winning turf specialist Stylish Star.

Patricia's Gem is believed to be in Dick Mandella's southern california barn, she worked 5 furlongs in 58 flat out of the gate at Santa Anita yesterday.

I'm a little interested in watching this one - I have a hard time imagining a Mineshaft filly being quick.

heck, i'd rather pay 16 mil for a daughter of mineshaft that 1.75 mil for a son of forestry, unless that son of forestry was named discreet cat.

Forest Danger was bought for 900K at the same sale as TGM....only three years earlier.

He is now standing stud - passing on his soundness and durability to the future generations.

I guess it's a good thing nobody paid $16 million for The Green Monkey.

And if the horse has Mineshaft's running style, she may not stop. Ever.

God I loved watching Mineshaft run.
I love that style. Efficiency. Head down. All business. No waste.

They do have her Drugs, and they say she is very, very nice. And worth every penny.

You know that too
:cool:

Even at $8 million he was a colossal ripoff.

Not if they unloaded the thing at 15.5mil, the plan didn't work to good:)

Jeez I go on vacation and they let her rip..........She is not typically the type of horse that they buy at the sales , she"s what I would call a fullfigured girl lol . When I have worked her I never let her reach top speed because she was a little fat , but I can tell you that the feeling she gives you when you are on her back is like driving a Porshe , she drops down when you push on the gas peddle and her 12 second 1/8ths feel like 14.
Also a side note , the track at Santa Anita is usually a few ticks faster down the backside and so its really not that hard to get a fast gate work , I wish I could have seen the work to see if she was being pushed or not. Oh well Ill be back to work on Monday so I guess Ill find out then .

I just hope she's as good as Booted.

Well Im hopin for a little more than that ....Booted didnt exactly catch the track on fire in his last start but he did chip his knee so Im hopin that is his excuse.

ok, so what's the story?

good luck with that.

i've heard whispers on here before about some big conspiracy, but no one will give the gory details.

Well not sure how much has been said here but if y'all were talking the same story I'm aware of it's essentially that they bought him privately beforehand for much much cheaper (well compared to $16 mil) and got into a fake p*ssing contest with the Dubai folks just to go 'oh oh see, I just whipped out $16 mil without even blinking' but the $8 mil or even cheaper is the ballpark figure for the real price of "the Monkey." I'll see if I can hunt up the play by play as I was told. It might take a minute to search the right message board. Of course it's all "alleged" if you know what I mean. Eh.

Ah ha, found it. Courtesy of Pedigree Query's forum:

not that i will ever understand such things, but why would the sheikh be humiliated by losing out on such an overpriced piece of forestry?

i think, on every possible level, it makes coolmore look stupid. 16 mil or 4-5 mil, pulling a fast one or not pulling a fast one.

There's a lot of nonsense that seems to go on at these sales with the final price.

However, if Hartly and Derenzio (sp?) sell the horse secretly for $4-to-$5 million one day, and the next day they sell the horse for $16 million, wouldn't that amount to about $11 million-to-$12 million extra in taxes for them to pay?

If this happened, I'm sure Tabor's group would have to cover those taxes.

I assume the attention that comes with the gigantic final purchase price might offset the few million dollars in extra taxes if the horse turns out to be a Grade 1 winner.

I don't exactly understand why Hartly and DeRenzio would willingly sell a horse for $4 million - when the Maktoums are willing to bid in excess of $15 million for said horse.

I have no idea what could have went on. The horse was an expensive yearling and he had to really sucker some people in with that very fast blinkered furlong work at the worlds most prestegious 2yo sale.

In all honesty, who friggin cares what who paid for what?

Well, if the horse cost $4 million instead of $16 million - he would have been unheard of by the vast majority of people who follow horse racing.

I've seen somethings that I believe outright decepetion went on with regarding final prices at sales.

There are some pretty curious things as well. For example, the sales topper at this years Saratoga's select yearling sale was the first foal dropped out of this wonderful race mare.



It's hard to imagine anyone wanting to pay over $2 million for a yearling out of an unproven broodmare, who was a monumentally bad race horse.

I love the way you keep those things handy. Its quite impressive. Bottom line is, stop thinking about the money. You think Coolmore or the god forsaken Saudis give a rats ass about 10 million dollars? Come on. I know you are smarter than that.

the saudis? did they bid on tgm too!!??

wow, those pinhookers hoodwinked everyone!

this got me to thinking some more.

can you imagine if juddmonte had actually won the auction for tgm? that would have been sweet!

he undoubtedly would have won the derby and preakness, then scratched out of the belmont because he drew a bad post position.

This following story will never get old or not funny!

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36006

I dont know who bid on what, all I know is that money is nothing at all to these people. These prices are all totally blown out of whack. Who cares how much this cost and that cost. Do you think the horse walks around and says"I know I sold for 16 million, but it was probably closer to 4 million and it might have been 1.5 million. "

i care! i care!!

does that count?

Buzz Chace hangs out at Monmouth Park simulcast and bets big money on Evangline Downs races. He's the kind of guy that's involved in this business, get my drift?

Whatever gets you through the night I guess...Looks like the Paul Robsham stable is having a sale at Belmont this week. Why dont you jump in?

By big money.....you mean the money that he ripped off his client for that Chief Seattle yearling?

I thought it was more like $8 million than $4 million but who really knows.

I mean all these guys are like used car salesmen picking the pockets of wealthy people. They are all on the inside. Who do you think his "unnamed" buy from New Jersey was? Come on, PID boy, lemme see what you got. This should be a chippy for you.

The Sudai's?

FWIW, I prefer PIP boy over PID boy.

How about PIV boy?

You know how in college football - they put out a top 25 poll everyweek, one by the AP and one by the coaches, which feature a ranking of the supposed 25 best teams in the country?

I'm going to start doing weekly ones like that - instead I'm going to do mine ranking all the fine jewish friends I have on the interwebs - instead of ranking college football teams.

do you even have any non jewish friends online? i think this list will consume all your time man. maybe you should wait till the track in drErie is done.

i read that article linked above...the more i think about it, the more i think i understand what happened there. and it's crappy!!!

I know I'm bringing up an old thread, but Patricia's Gem is set to debut on Saturday at Santa Anita at 6 furlongs. I would assume this would be too short for her, but I'm really excited. From what I could see in pics from the Keeneland sale, she's a beautiful filly.........Hope she runs well - it sounds like she's supposed to be the goods