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Coach Pants 09-18-2007 12:02 AM

Don't ask John Kerry about Skull and Bones or else
 
http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250

Coach Pants 09-18-2007 12:12 AM

Yeah he was a whiny little bitch.

golfer 09-18-2007 06:06 AM

Yes, he was annoying, but if being annoying is against the law, then start building the new city, "Prisonville".
Oh, and by the way, John Kerry should answer the questions!

Scav 09-18-2007 01:48 PM

It should be interesting to see what happens. You can't just taser people for being a ****** and I don't see any reason why he needed to be cuffed. The only thing I can think of is trespassing on private property, like if they asked him to leave and he refused, but I know little about the law

Danzig 09-18-2007 08:11 PM

many expect a lawsuit, and say that excessive force was used (i agree). cops want to charge him with a felony, which imo is outrageous.

trifecta124 09-18-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
many expect a lawsuit, and say that excessive force was used (i agree). cops want to charge him with a felony, which imo is outrageous.

He doesn't deserve a dime.

johnny pinwheel 09-18-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
many expect a lawsuit, and say that excessive force was used (i agree). cops want to charge him with a felony, which imo is outrageous.

they are kidding right ? if i were a lawyer in i'd call him myself. idiots run on nfl fields every week, a guy once tried to punch jorge chavez on artax during a race. and the cops taser the campus nerd for having harsh words for john kerry of all people. whats this country coming too? i suppose hes al quada too ? i used to think this country was composed of somewhat intelligent people. boy was i wrong on that !

31lengths 09-18-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I agree. I was trying to be funny. I do believe Kerry was attempting to answer the questions though, in between the arrest and the tasering.


Yeah....he attempted to answer and may have even partially answered it but we couldnt hear it.

Coach Pants 09-18-2007 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
While I agree that there are WAY too many lawsuits right now, was that not excessive force? I realize by carrying on, he was basically challenging them, but what did he do wrong there?

He said "Oh my God!" too many times.

31lengths 09-18-2007 09:24 PM

what i do think is funny is that:
a) it took 6 officers to subdue the cat (and STILL couldn't remove him).
b) he KNEW he was gonna get tazed if he didn't cooperate because....
c) he then BEGGED not to taze him after refusing to cooperate.
d) i think Kerry WANTED to answer the question.

a law suit probably won't hold up because the officers warned him at least 4 times that they would taze him if he didn't cooperate. in fact i thought i heard a female officer say "Taze, stand by" or "Taze taze" and she never pulled the trigger.
I know our department has to say it 3 successive times before tazing a subject.

there were so many other ways everyone could have handled it.

trifecta124 09-18-2007 09:28 PM

He wanted to push them to the point where they would tazer him. I do not feel bad for him at all.

trifecta124 09-18-2007 09:33 PM

He didn't have to.....I know the type.

johnny pinwheel 09-18-2007 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trifecta124
He wanted to push them to the point where they would tazer him. I do not feel bad for him at all.

i thought it was funny. but i'm not a cop. it was funny but it wasn't right.

trifecta124 09-18-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What type is that? Are you a Republican?

Yes

trifecta124 09-18-2007 09:40 PM

I am very glad that you can easily tell that I am a Republican.

trifecta124 09-18-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I wasn't implying it is a bad thing, just a way you were coming off kind of shouted it. I'm still kind of curious, what "type" of guy is that guy?

A college kid.

johnny pinwheel 09-18-2007 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What type is that? Are you a Republican?

man, thats worse than a democrat !!!!! lol. i wouldn't dare be independant and think for myself. are you crazy or something .

johnny pinwheel 09-18-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I am both crazy and independant thank you very much.

agreed. i'd sign a pact with the devil before i would line up with one of those crooked political parties. i love to listen to what people believe and their beliefs. its amazing ,sad and funny all at once. never meant to be a follower i guess.

Coach Pants 09-18-2007 10:52 PM

I'm Librarian.

pgardn 09-18-2007 11:16 PM

John Kerry comes to talk, people want to hear, and he ruins it.
He resisted leaving when asked to.

As a person in the audience I would have asked
to please have him removed as he is causing extraordinary
pain in my ears and if you dont remove him I will have to
bite his tongue out of his mouth which would lead to a
bloodbathe and possibly a class revolution.

Look Im a whinny little puss, please beat me up for
the cameras.


But they really did not need to taser him.
Duct tape his mouth shut...

31lengths 09-19-2007 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
i thought it was funny. but i'm not a cop. it was funny but it wasn't right.

NONE of it was right. It got out of control and it was unfortunate.

johnny pinwheel 09-19-2007 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 31lengths
NONE of it was right. It got out of control and it was unfortunate.

well the cops should be fired. how many people stand up and shout at these things,many. how many people get tased for it ?
almost none. do they get thrown out ? yes. and sometimes charged with disorderly conduct ? yeah. but face it cops are trained at this sort of thing. this guy is zero threat . escort him out and be done with it. there were 6 of them for crying out loud. nothing should of left there belt except for the cuffs, end of story. but i still got a laugh oyut of the whole thing!

MaTH716 09-19-2007 08:18 AM

It was ridiculous. There were 6 cops there and between them they couldn't get a guy that was 145 ponds soaking wet under control and out of the room. All the guy did was ask a question, and he ends up getting tased. It's a good thing the guy didn't hold up a sign, he might have gotten shot.

johnny pinwheel 09-19-2007 08:39 AM

give someone a taser ,now they are a God. cop,judge and executioner.lol

trifecta124 09-19-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
give someone a taser ,now they are a God. cop,judge and executioner.lol

They should just get rid of campus police all together. Until a crazy student kills 20 people in a class and everyone is wondering why there was no one there to protect them.

Supah Brother 09-19-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by trifecta124
They should just get rid of campus police all together. Until a crazy student kills 20 people in a class and everyone is wondering why there was no one there to protect them.


Like a true Republican instilling fear to justify our rights being taken away.

trifecta124 09-19-2007 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supah Brother
Like a true Republican instilling fear to justify our rights being taken away.

It's not instilling fear.....It's common sense. Something the Democrats seem to lose more & more of all the time. People love to take rights away from the cops until they need protection from them.

Danzig 09-19-2007 04:39 PM

a witness to the latter part of the confrontation said that he was subdued, not struggling--just kept talking. but wasn't fighting back, not moving, they had him under control--so why tase him? i think just to shut him up--and talking isn't illegal--nor is it resisting.
it was supposedly an open forum, questions could be asked by anyone on any subject. but i guess that was only if the right any subjects came up. he supposedly took too long, so they cut off the mic. but the campus police were right there, so eager to grab the guy. it seemed mishandled, and sheer overkill, from the start.

skippy3481 09-19-2007 09:05 PM

The kid was whiny , but i didn't see a reason for him to be tased. It's not like he was shouting profane language or making death threats. As far as resisting arrest.... Come on, thats pretty weak. My favorite part was when they wanted to charge him with inciting a riot... wtf....

SniperSB23 09-19-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That guy was really annoying. I probably would have tasered him also.

Finally watched that too and thought the same thing, but eventually it got a little scary. Inciting a riot? You could arm that guy with four nukes and he'd still be too much of a tool to incite a riot. Scary $h!t what they can take you into custody for (and apparently tase you for).

golfer 09-20-2007 05:47 AM

First off, this thing was videotaped by about 100 camera's. This link shows a different angle, as well as the aftermath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ndctwAJmU

The kid's actions are nothing short of bizarre. You can see that he is being led up the stairs, and seems to attempt an escape of some-sort, which is what led to the tasing. Then they show the aftermath, and instead of taking him somewhere, they just kind of hang out in the hallway. While hand-cuffed, and after being tased, he asks about his book? Why in the world would he be so interested in the whereabouts of his book with what he was going through? This whole incident just doesn't "smell" right!


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