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fpsoxfan 07-29-2007 04:33 PM

Borel is Fired Up
 
It's great to see Borel so fired up from the time he crossed the finish line to the winners circle. What a great moment at the Spa. Good for Street Sense and all of his connections. Next stop is the Travers!!

31lengths 07-29-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
It's great to see Borel so fired up from the time he crossed the finish line to the winners circle. What a great moment at the Spa. Good for Street Sense and all of his connections. Next stop is the Travers!!


Yep...thought the same thing.

Downthestretch55 07-29-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
It's great to see Borel so fired up from the time he crossed the finish line to the winners circle. What a great moment at the Spa. Good for Street Sense and all of his connections. Next stop is the Travers!!

I agree. That was a nice ride, relaxed him but kept him close, didn't allow himself to get bottled, then when he asked for the switch to the right lead at the top of the stretch, it was all over. Two bumps from CP West (tired) coming out was no factor. If SS comes out sound, and no reason to think otherwise, the Travers is a lock. Congrats to Carl N and all the connects

PPerfectfan 07-29-2007 05:01 PM

Yea I was so glad for the whole crew. Big Congrats. Did everyone catch Calvin saying Street was pissed after the last work cause he couldnt go faster?hehe And CP West ran a nice race for 2nd.

Riot 07-29-2007 05:47 PM

I'm a Street Sense fan, but wow, CP West ran a huge race on the lead. Never gave up, even when headed. He's coming into his own for fall. Hope he comes out of this fine.

Reminds me of one of Came Home's other 3-year-olds, a nice little allowance filly ... :D

Danzig 07-29-2007 06:09 PM

i see riot and i think the same about those came homes. i'll wish well of them all now, as any good efforts help the whole family!

how refreshing to see a derby winner run past the spring classics. perhaps a sign of things to come, maybe sooner or later they'll start running at four as well!


wonder tho about curlin...padua making the move to ky, their exchange rate leaving fla for a ky farm....can't help thinking their classic winner (and yes, i know they are part owner) will soon be named as heading to the same farm as the grey son of danzig, and join his own sire as well.

Riot 07-29-2007 06:33 PM

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how refreshing to see a derby winner run past the spring classics. perhaps a sign of things to come, maybe sooner or later they'll start running at four as well!
It's terrific. Does anybody know how the Saratoga attendance was today compared to previous years?

If only they would show more racing on national TV, they would indeed gain a wider audience as people could follow particular horses. That means more people going to the track to see their stars in person. The racing industry has always seemed to shoot itself in the foot, never noticing how being the national sport slipped away via neglect over the years. Horse racing never pursued TV aggressively, and now it's virtually gone from even newspapers ....

Huge congrats to Street Sense, thank you to Calvin and Carl!

philcski 07-29-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
It's terrific. Does anybody know how the Saratoga attendance was today compared to previous years?
If only they would show more racing on national TV, they would indeed gain a wider audience as people could follow particular horses. That means more people going to the track to see their stars in person. The racing industry has always seemed to shoot itself in the foot, never noticing how being the national sport slipped away via neglect over the years. Horse racing never pursued TV aggressively, and now it's virtually gone from even newspapers ....

Huge congrats to Street Sense, thank you to Calvin and Carl!

Super high. It was busier today than I could ever remember for a non-Travers day (and those that were there all weekend said it was even busier on Super Saturday.)

Was awesome to see SS do his thing again. Man I love that horse!

whodey17 07-29-2007 09:47 PM

I was a HUGE Came Home fan. It is so awesome to see CP West perform so well. I thought he might get it done for a moment. I look forward to this horses maturity for the fall and maybe into the 08 season.

Street Sense looked perfect. Carl couldnt have asked for anything else from the horse today. Borel just sat there on the rail and waited until an opening appeared (inside or outside) and made his move. It was good to see SS switch leads and not lug in so much.

I was looking for something a little better out of Tiz Wonderful. But maybe this is what Asmussen wanted. The horse looked dead tired crossing the finish line and I guess that was to be expected. But I didnt see the burst of speed that I thought he would show. I hope he is OK and is being considered for the Travers.

docicu3 07-29-2007 10:14 PM

Attendance today 46,876 per bris

Other days so far starting with Wed 30,052, 31,971, 18, 795 (so much for twilight racing), 29,216 (Whitney)

I would say they came out to gaze at the stars!!

philcski 07-29-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Attendance today 46,876 per bris

Other days so far starting with Wed 30,052, 31,971, 18, 795 (so much for twilight racing), 29,216 (Whitney)

I would say they came out to gaze at the stars!!

Not sure if that's giveaway-adjusted (no spinners this year, if you wanted multiple giveaways you just went to a window and paid GA price for them).

Still think Twilight should be a success, surprised by that number.

Travis Stone 07-29-2007 11:19 PM

July is always a bit quiet -- summer/august vacationers not arrived yet.

Riot 07-29-2007 11:49 PM

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Borel just sat there on the rail and waited until an opening appeared (inside or outside) and made his move.
I was getting worried there for a minute ... that was a loooong few seconds wait! His coolness had to be rooted in absolute confidence in what Street Sense had left.

jballscalls 07-30-2007 07:25 AM

It is great when the stars of the game stick around and race past the triple crown!! however, does anyone think maybe calvin should try going to the left handed whip some? seems like SS enjoys getting in on a pretty regular basis. just curious what others think.

fpsoxfan 07-30-2007 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
It is great when the stars of the game stick around and race past the triple crown!! however, does anyone think maybe calvin should try going to the left handed whip some? seems like SS enjoys getting in on a pretty regular basis. just curious what others think.

I will say I was a little surprised to see him lug in a bit on CP West as he was passing him, but then Borel got him straight. The only thing I can say about the lug in is maybe it's just that he hasn't raced in awhile???? Who knows, but either way I am kicking myself a little for not going over to watch. It was cool on TV, but it must have been great to be there. I doubt I'll go Travers Day either. That could be a record crowd.

SilverRP 07-30-2007 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
It's terrific. Does anybody know how the Saratoga attendance was today compared to previous years?

If only they would show more racing on national TV, they would indeed gain a wider audience as people could follow particular horses. That means more people going to the track to see their stars in person. The racing industry has always seemed to shoot itself in the foot, never noticing how being the national sport slipped away via neglect over the years. Horse racing never pursued TV aggressively, and now it's virtually gone from even newspapers ....

Huge congrats to Street Sense, thank you to Calvin and Carl!

ESPN, you know, the world wide leader in sports, is too busy showing poker, fishing, and/or cheerleading. Not showing races nationally showing stars like SS is in my opinion one of the dumbest things the sport can do. But hey, not much we fans can do about. Seriously though, who is in charge of getting these races on national TV? Is it that difficult? Has Horse Racing fallen so much that we can't see a kentucky derby winner on national TV? Simply unbelievable!!!

SundayStar 07-30-2007 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
It is great when the stars of the game stick around and race past the triple crown!! however, does anyone think maybe calvin should try going to the left handed whip some? seems like SS enjoys getting in on a pretty regular basis. just curious what others think.


i think something is wrong with his left arm. but seriously, he's been lucky at least twice now not to get DQ'd. doesn't he know that street sense is a rail seeker?

ArlJim78 07-30-2007 08:54 AM

great that Street Sense is still racing and all, but I wasn't terribly impressed with the performance. Lawyer Ron would have kicked his ass.

SentToStud 07-30-2007 09:02 AM

Borel on Street Sense always looks to me like he's one-hole-not-opening-at-the-last-instant away from disaster.

SundayStar 07-30-2007 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
When should he have been DQ'd? The Derby? He didn't make any contact in the Derby or the Jim Dandy.

i didn't say he should've been DQ'd. i said he was lucky not to have been DQ'd. to be more specific, he was very very close to causing a foul....yes, in the derby and yesterday in the dandy.

he's either reckless or not very bright. he should know that street sense starts looking for the rail as soon as he gets by a horse (especially when being whipped right-handed). and yet he continues to whip him right handed.

whodey17 07-30-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
great that Street Sense is still racing and all, but I wasn't terribly impressed with the performance. Lawyer Ron would have kicked his ass.

Lawyer Ron is also a year older than SS. Also this was SS first race since May. I think you can expect more from SS in the future and I would imagine that LR will digress a little from his great performance in the Whitney.

ArlJim78 07-30-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
Lawyer Ron is also a year older than SS. Also this was SS first race since May. I think you can expect more from SS in the future and I would imagine that LR will digress a little from his great performance in the Whitney.

He is a year older but isn't Street Sense planning to take on all comers, including Lawyer Ron in a few months in the Classic? I just wonder how much more you will see from Street Sense, he always looks the same to me which is quite good, but not overpowering. He should have handed that field a Bernardini style thrashing. Instead, all I saw was that he managed to get up in time to beat CP West.

whodey17 07-30-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
He is a year older but isn't Street Sense planning to take on all comers, including Lawyer Ron in a few months in the Classic? I just wonder how much more you will see from Street Sense, he always looks the same to me which is quite good, but not overpowering. He should have handed that field a Bernardini style thrashing. Instead, all I saw was that he managed to get up in time to beat CP West.

I thought it was a good performance for being off 71 days. I feel that this time of year, 3 year olds have more room to improve than 4 year olds. I think that LR has peaked and will start to level off. I think SS will be able to iimprove more and be primed for his best for BCC day.

Riot 07-30-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
He should have handed that field a Bernardini style thrashing. Instead, all I saw was that he managed to get up in time to beat CP West.

I doubt Nafzger had him cranked up, first off layoff, and he uses preps for just that. He's always said the goal is the Classic after the Derby.

I was wondering why they were all so very happy and excited after the win. I figure it was because they didn't expect the win - they just wanted him to run well (maybe top three), and get this prep under his belt. That he won on class and natural ability alone, maybe surprised them a bit and reinforced how good they think this horse is, that he could easily beat those at 80% or so.

ArlJim78 07-30-2007 06:53 PM

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You are right. But before Saturday, would you have included Lawyer Ron in possible Classic contenders. He ran out of this world big, almost unbelievable.

In the past in my opinion Nafzger hasn't had Street Sense fully cranked in his preps for a big race. We have seen how he performs in the biggies, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

well yes I considered Lawyer Ron a potential classic contender before Saturday. why not? he has improved in every start for Pletcher and its up for grabs. The race Saturday showed another dimension entirely.

I think Street Sense has a lot more to worry about than Lawyer Ron though. I don't know who is going to the Travers but I don't think its a gimme for him.

philcski 07-30-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't think it's going to be a gimme either, but who is out there that could give him a run? I'm not sold on Lawyer Ron, don't ask me why. That was just too good a performance, by a good, but not that good a horse. Maybe Pletcher has moved him up that much, but something stinks in that race.

As I stated in the Lawyer Ron time thread, they ran a freak-out race. It happens, and I agree they won't run back to it.

He's a very good horse, but not all time good as the time/figure would indicate.

paisjpq 07-30-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I can't imagine Asmussen was looking for a last place finish today. The horse never looked interested IMO and didn't show the speed he had last year. Unfortunately I think we have seen his last race. I thought it was crazy for him to be in this race and even crazier to see him go in the Travers.

rank early, tired late....IMO not pretty.

Coach Pants 07-30-2007 09:28 PM

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Too bad too, because I liked him a lot last year. Probably not the ideal spot to come off a layoff either.

The vet should've recieved that wire transfer today.

Cajungator26 07-30-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I will give Pletcher camp credit, because they have seemed to fix the rankness problem Lawyer Ron had last year. Maybe the fact he's getting stronger jocks on him, or someone in the Pletcher camp deserves a big raise.

Same thing I noticed... huge improvement in that regard.

ArlJim78 07-30-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't think it's going to be a gimme either, but who is out there that could give him a run? I'm not sold on Lawyer Ron, don't ask me why. That was just too good a performance, by a good, but not that good a horse. Maybe Pletcher has moved him up that much, but something stinks in that race.

maybe, but what is it that stinks? it looks honest in all respects. the only thing that will answer that question is more races.

as far as who could beat Street Sense? I don't know yet, I'll tell you the day before the Travers, how's that?

philcski 07-30-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I will give Pletcher camp credit, because they have seemed to fix the rankness problem Lawyer Ron had last year. Maybe the fact he's getting stronger jocks on him, or someone in the Pletcher camp deserves a big raise.

He almost pulled P Val out of the saddle in the BCC last year throwing his head around, and PVal is one STRONG dude. Training him in draw reins was genius...


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