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wac 07-16-2007 08:13 PM

CNL: Field for $1MM Virginia Derby
 
anyone else on here think anything about circular quay in this race? I was surprised when i saw his name on the entries. What are his chances? Seems like a grass runner with his come from behind tactics. Also did i see that CBS is showing this race? If so, who will be commentators?


The Field of the $1-million Virginia Derby (gr. IIT) at Colonial Downs:

1. Blazing Dynamo (Kent Desormeaux)
2. Strike a Deal (Ramon Dominguez)
3. Red Giant (Not Listed)
4. Circular Quay (Garrett Gomez)
5. Inca King (Shaun Bridgmohan)
6. Soldier’s Dancer (Cornelio Velasquez)
7. Duveen (Edgar Prado)
8. Love Dubai (Mark Guidry)
9. Summer Doldrums (Jose Lezcano)
10. Top Cross (Christopher DeCarlo)

The Bid 07-16-2007 08:22 PM

Im thinking Love Dubai runs them down late. I look for Circular Quay to **** the bed once again.

my miss storm cat 07-16-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Im thinking Love Dubai runs them down late. I look for Circular Quay to **** the bed once again.

Like Love Dubai here too..... :)

trifecta124 07-16-2007 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Like Love Dubai here too..... :)

Blazing Dynamo in an upset.....Full brother to Blazing Fury (Dynaformer & Blazing Kadie). Improving with every race. Taking a huge step up, but that's when you want to play him. He will be coming late with a furious run. I love Toner putting him in this race.

miraja2 07-16-2007 09:41 PM

Circular Quay does have a decent dam-side pedigree for the turf (Shadeed, Danzig, etc.) but I honestly can't really think of a reason to play him in this race.
However, I'm sure I will talk myself into it by the time of the race. I always manage to invent some reason to play this colt that seems logical to me at the time......and then foolish later on.

GPK 07-16-2007 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
At first glance this looks like a real nice race. I'm partial to Strike A Deal, who IMO was best last time and might be sitting on a big race.


Finally....a voice of reason.

saucon17 07-16-2007 10:07 PM

I like Duveen who had a trouble trip last time and also had to overcome slow pace at CD, plus he gets Prado who has a few Va. Derby winners

PPerfectfan 07-16-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I like Duveen who had a trouble trip last time and also had to overcome slow pace at CD, plus he gets Prado who has a few Va. Derby winners

I like him alot in this race also. He did have a crappy trip last out and should do better. And ya gotta love Prado!! By the way, love the Avatar, I have always liked the Phillies, esp. <drool> Darren Daulton<drool>, and the big bear at first John Kruk<not drooling for him but I just loved him>.And they had a good 3rd baseman, but for the life of me I cant remember his name.....Hollins???? maybe?? And Lenny D in the outfield! Sorry but thinking about Darren Daulton got me all discombobulated and my mind off track!! :eek:

saucon17 07-16-2007 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
And they had a good 3rd baseman, but for the life of me I cant remember his name.....Hollins???? maybe?? :eek:

Yes his name was Dave Hollins. Also was a big fan of Possibly Perfect, couldn't ask for a better name for a racehorse, the name fit her perfectly

ateamstupid 07-16-2007 10:42 PM

Quay's bred decently for grass, but I don't think he wants to go ten furlongs no matter what surface it's on..

Cannon Shell 07-16-2007 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Im thinking Love Dubai runs them down late. I look for Circular Quay to **** the bed once again.

I will take any action you want on LD

Cannon Shell 07-16-2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Like Love Dubai here too..... :)

Same for you too

PPerfectfan 07-16-2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
Yes his name was Dave Hollins. Also was a big fan of Possibly Perfect, couldn't ask for a better name for a racehorse, the name fit her perfectly

Dang it thats it Dave Hollins. My screename if for Pleasantly Perfect, that was my big guy. Loved, loved him. Cant wait for those babies to start running. They are yearlings this year.None in any sales yet but I did see one in the sale in NY. I guess everyone who bred to him is smart and gonna keep them for themselves.

The Bid 07-17-2007 08:30 AM

Cannon will you give me win place show positions?

docicu3 07-17-2007 08:56 AM

Summer Doldrums may repeat at Colonial in this race as with two nice turf races with forward moves may do so again. Real nice win in G3 at similiar distance ....Why is SD left out of most discussions in this race??

wiphan 07-17-2007 09:42 AM

LD doesn't have a shot in heck to win this race.

brianwspencer 07-17-2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I like Duveen who had a trouble trip last time and also had to overcome slow pace at CD, plus he gets Prado who has a few Va. Derby winners

I cashed nicely on Inca King that day, but not sure he's going to get the same set of circumstances on the front end again this time. However, he looks like he's getting good lately and I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up again with another big one.

With any pace pressure on that one, Duveen looks pretty tough in here.

Scurlogue Champ 07-17-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
I like him alot in this race also. He did have a crappy trip last out and should do better. And ya gotta love Prado!! By the way, love the Avatar, I have always liked the Phillies, esp. <drool> Darren Daulton<drool>, and the big bear at first John Kruk<not drooling for him but I just loved him>.And they had a good 3rd baseman, but for the life of me I cant remember his name.....Hollins???? maybe?? And Lenny D in the outfield! Sorry but thinking about Darren Daulton got me all discombobulated and my mind off track!! :eek:

Remember when Daulton lost his goddamned mind a few years back?

PPerfectfan 07-17-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
Remember when Daulton lost his goddamned mind a few years back?

I know but he is so hot, it doesnt really matter. All he has to do is stand there and keep his mouth shut! :D "Take your spanking like a good boy Darren"!!!! :eek:

Mike 07-17-2007 01:31 PM

I hope Summer Doldrums continus to be ignored, but it's probably only because he looks the part of a very low priced horse. If he's overlaid, in my mind, I would be happy with 4-1, but I'd have to box with Strike A Deal

Inca King looks interesting

brianwspencer 07-17-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
I hope Summer Doldrums continus to be ignored, but it's probably only because he looks the part of a very low priced horse. If he's overlaid, in my mind, I would be happy with 4-1, but I'd have to box with Strike A Deal

Inca King looks interesting

It's just a question of whether he's getting good at the right time, or whether his last was because the favorite followed him all the way around (boxed in) while Inca crawled on the front end.

That's the big question. Inca King and Duveen look mighty tough in there, as I think that Inca can probably reproduce the effort from his last.

golfer 07-17-2007 05:19 PM

I'll put my vote in for Soldier's Dancer. Caught wide throughout in the Summer Doldrum's/Strike a Deal race.. will certainly be overlooked Saturday. Better jockey, better post position, better odds. His figs fit with these, he's my longshot play.

Uncle Daddy 07-17-2007 07:47 PM

VA Derby
 
Like Duveen quite a bit. Working well according to his owner & trainer. Has shipped well as a 3 year old. Will be stalking the pace and rolling late. Would love to get 5:1

ninetoone 07-17-2007 08:00 PM

Are the PP's out there anywhere?

trifecta124 07-17-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Are the PP's out there anywhere?

9th (5:44)
Virginia Derby (G2)

1 1/4 Miles (Outer turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Blazing Dynamo Desormeaux K J Toner James J 116 L 15-1
2 2 Strike a Deal Dominguez R Goldberg Alan E 116 L 3-1
3 3 Red Giant Dominguez R Pletcher Todd A 116 L 15-1
4 4 Circular Quay Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 118 L 5-2
5 5 Inca King Bridgmohan S X Asmussen Steven M 120 L 8-1
6 6 Soldier's Dancer Velasquez C Vivian David A 118 L 12-1
7 7 Duveen Prado E S Romans Dale 120 L 6-1
8 8 Love Dubai Guidry M Maker Michael J 116 L 30-1
9 9 Summer Doldrums Lezcano J Violette, Jr. R A 120 L 7-2
10 10 Top Cross Decarlo C P Pletcher Todd A 116 L 15-1


Exacta, Trifecta & 10 Cent Superfecta, 1st Half Daily Double, 2nd Leg Pick Three

ninetoone 07-17-2007 08:45 PM

Oops...I meant past performances, not post positions...my bad. Thanks anyway.


Quote:

Originally Posted by trifecta124
9th (5:44)
Virginia Derby (G2)

1 1/4 Miles (Outer turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Blazing Dynamo Desormeaux K J Toner James J 116 L 15-1
2 2 Strike a Deal Dominguez R Goldberg Alan E 116 L 3-1
3 3 Red Giant Dominguez R Pletcher Todd A 116 L 15-1
4 4 Circular Quay Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 118 L 5-2
5 5 Inca King Bridgmohan S X Asmussen Steven M 120 L 8-1
6 6 Soldier's Dancer Velasquez C Vivian David A 118 L 12-1
7 7 Duveen Prado E S Romans Dale 120 L 6-1
8 8 Love Dubai Guidry M Maker Michael J 116 L 30-1
9 9 Summer Doldrums Lezcano J Violette, Jr. R A 120 L 7-2
10 10 Top Cross Decarlo C P Pletcher Todd A 116 L 15-1


Exacta, Trifecta & 10 Cent Superfecta, 1st Half Daily Double, 2nd Leg Pick Three


trifecta124 07-17-2007 08:46 PM

Circular Quay is the favorite?

My selection doesn't look so bad at 15-1 after all.

Alan07 07-17-2007 09:15 PM

PP's:
http://ntra.equibase.com/eqbNTRAGetF...=USA&de=D&rn=9

my miss storm cat 07-17-2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninetoone
Are the PP's out there anywhere?

Here... :)

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...mans_81068.pdf

ninetoone 07-17-2007 09:16 PM

Thanks guys...

my miss storm cat 07-17-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07

Oooh yours are blue. :D

Go, Love Dubai.:cool:

Cannon Shell 07-17-2007 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Cannon will you give me win place show positions?

sure

GPK 07-17-2007 10:48 PM

was Pletcher denied a request to field half the entries and had to settle for 3??

The Indomitable DrugS 07-17-2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Cannon will you give me win place show positions?

I will give you that....

And a 4% rebate.

The Bid 07-18-2007 08:38 AM

What odds do you want to give me on the show spot. I know I can obviously get long odds win wise ontrack.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
What odds do you want to give me on the show spot. I know I can obviously get long odds win wise ontrack.

ppdgn says you dont pay...put the money in an escrow account and we'll talk:cool:

The Bid 07-18-2007 10:32 AM

:eek:

Untrue

Cannon Shell 07-18-2007 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
:eek:

Untrue

That's it? I was hoping for more of a reaction than that!

gamblin4ever 07-18-2007 11:12 AM

I'm starting to like Blazing Dynamo.

I'm just hoping Kent D. remembers where finish line is and rides hims all the way.:D


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