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SuffolkGirl 07-12-2007 10:54 AM

Breeders Cup
 
I know, I know, it is early and Saratoga hasn't even started, but I was wondering if anyone has received anything about Breeder's Cup tickets.

I put in my application and sent it with my payment information and am just now opening my mail from the last few weeks. Anyway, Breeders Cup made a charge to my account on 6/25 but I have not received anything in the mail regarding tickets. Has anyone else been charged yet? Have you received info about your tickets?

I am hoping this means I have tickets and not just a charge to my account to be reversed later when they decide who gets tickets and who doesn't.

Thanks

Mortimer 07-12-2007 10:58 AM

I think you just got stiffed lady.


Happens all the time.






You're welcome.

Bigsmc 07-12-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl
I know, I know, it is early and Saratoga hasn't even started, but I was wondering if anyone has received anything about Breeder's Cup tickets.

I put in my application and sent it with my payment information and am just now opening my mail from the last few weeks. Anyway, Breeders Cup made a charge to my account on 6/25 but I have not received anything in the mail regarding tickets. Has anyone else been charged yet? Have you received info about your tickets?

I am hoping this means I have tickets and not just a charge to my account to be reversed later when they decide who gets tickets and who doesn't.

Thanks

You should have tickets. I don't think they are charging accounts if you're not getting them, otherwise they would've charged your account the day you applied so they could get interest on the money before refunding it.

They charged my account too, but it was for less than what I asked for, so I am assuming mine got downgraded and the lower amount was charged.

NoLuvForPletch 07-12-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
You should have tickets. I don't think they are charging accounts if you're not getting them, otherwise they would've charged your account the day you applied so they could get interest on the money before refunding it.

They charged my account too, but it was for less than what I asked for, so I am assuming mine got downgraded and the lower amount was charged.

Ditto here, except I couldn't make the numbers add up to see where my seats are. My guess is that everyone that applied will get seats. With the price of the tickets and having to "apply" so far in advance, only the hardcore locals will be there at this point. Plus I have to believe people are going to think twice about going after the last 3 debacles weather-wise at Belmont. I'd be surprised if they end up selling out on the first shot.

By the amount I was charged I think I ended up with seats on the apron, good seats but on the apron. Should be great when the October mist starts flying.

ShadowRoll 07-12-2007 02:47 PM

When I applied, I thought I read something about them charging and refunding if you ultimately didn't win the lottery. Sorry to be the wet blanket, but I don't think getting charged necessarily means that you got tickets. The delay in charging could simply be from bureaucratic inefficiency. And I thought they already announced that they got enough applications to sell out, but I could be wrong.

Bigsmc 07-12-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
When I applied, I thought I read something about them charging and refunding if you ultimately didn't win the lottery. Sorry to be the wet blanket, but I don't think getting charged necessarily means that you got tickets. The delay in charging could simply be from bureaucratic inefficiency. And I thought they already announced that they got enough applications to sell out, but I could be wrong.


Yeah but.....

Why would they charge an amount less than what I applied for?

NoLuvForPletch 07-12-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
When I applied, I thought I read something about them charging and refunding if you ultimately didn't win the lottery. Sorry to be the wet blanket, but I don't think getting charged necessarily means that you got tickets. The delay in charging could simply be from bureaucratic inefficiency. And I thought they already announced that they got enough applications to sell out, but I could be wrong.

They would refund if you paid by check but they wouldn't charge your credit card unless you get tickets...I am 100% sure of this

Danzig 07-12-2007 06:53 PM

i'd imagine it would be a hold on your card--essentially the same as a charge, since you can't use that amount of credit--but it doesn't accumulate interest like a charge either...

the lower amount might be if you indicated you would take a cheaper seat, if too many got drawn in for the higher seats...

all just speculation on my part tho, i didn't read the fine print as i wasn't looking to attend this year.

ShadowRoll 07-12-2007 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Yeah but.....

Why would they charge an amount less than what I applied for?

Good point. You're probably right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
They would refund if you paid by check but they wouldn't charge your credit card unless you get tickets...I am 100% sure of this

Okay. Bigs, NLFP says you're absolutely right.

geeker2 07-12-2007 07:08 PM

They claim that they have not finished the lotto process yet..but that everyone will be notified my mail by the end of the month.

NoLuvForPletch 07-13-2007 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
Good point. You're probably right.


Okay. Bigs, NLFP says you're absolutely right.

This is directly from the BC Tix Website

STEP 4. PAYMENT
Payment will be calculated based on the highest priced seat location that you have selected. Be sure to calculate other racing days and parking, if selected, and the shipping and handling fee. All ticket sales are final. There are no refunds or exchanges once seats are confirmed -- No Exceptions.

Accepted Methods of Payment: Credit Cards: Visa, MasterCard and American Express are accepted. Credit Cards will not be charged until seats are assigned.

Slewbopper 07-13-2007 05:16 PM

This year was the first year I ever paid for a seat at a racetrack for a big event. $110 for the Belmont. Never again. What a waste of money. I was at Monmouth for Point Given's Haskell. Didn't have a seat and did just fine. Got there early and parking was no problem. No problem with traffic getting to the lot. I seriously doubt that Monmouth will have that size of a crowd for the BC. And if they do, they will have all those temporary seats. I will make the 3 hour drive, pay $25 to park, and $50 to enter. Exorbitant, yes, but why would someone spend a fortune for a seat at a racetrack? How much time do you spend in that seat anyway? There is always someplace you can sit down and take a load off.

Idiot Proof in the Sprint

smuthg 07-14-2007 09:16 AM

I sent them an e-mail this week and the response indicated that those who received tickets would be notified by no later than the end of this month... Given the comments in this thread, I'm assuming that I'm screwed because my credit card has not been charged...

geeker2 07-14-2007 09:23 AM

hang in there..they have not yet finished the process. I asked a similar question and was told that (just yesterday)

jacksdad 07-15-2007 12:08 PM

I was at Monmouth a few weeks back and talked to one of the guys that works in group sales. I was planning on paying the $50 general admission too. After speaking with him, I'm not going to bother. According to him, general admission enty that day only give you access to the paddock side of the grandstand. Unless you've got reserved seating in the temp bleachers, you won't even be allowed out the grandstand doors on the trackside.

ELA 07-15-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksdad
I was at Monmouth a few weeks back and talked to one of the guys that works in group sales. I was planning on paying the $50 general admission too. After speaking with him, I'm not going to bother. According to him, general admission enty that day only give you access to the paddock side of the grandstand. Unless you've got reserved seating in the temp bleachers, you won't even be allowed out the grandstand doors on the trackside.

That is very true and very accurate. They are designing the infrastructure that way.

Also, I don't know all the nuances and idiosyncrasies on the ticketing, charging, etc. process; however, a NJTHA newsletter addressed the entire process. What I found very interesting is that I also received -- under seperate cover -- a very detailed letter from the President of the NJTHA on the very same subject; basically saying that if we wanted tickets the NJTHA would be requesting them and buying them on behalf of us. They were promised very good seats for the membership but had to get their allocation in early.

Anyway, after talking to a few people invovled in the entire process, it sounds to me like there are some things that need to be worked out. I don't know if anything is written in stone other than, unfortunately, many people being dissappointed.

As much as they said it was, I am not so sure what they said was written in stone -- was actually written in stone.

Eric

onebadbeast 07-15-2007 12:26 PM

Oh, To Be In New Jersey....in October...

trifecta124 07-15-2007 12:29 PM

Watch the Breeders Cup on TV. That's your best bet.

Slewbopper 07-15-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by trifecta124
Watch the Breeders Cup on TV. That's your best bet.

After reading what Jacks Dad said, it seems that is what I will do. I am not going to put up with the BC's BS. From what I understand the BC is in charge of things and the tracks have little say in the matter. I know at Belmont in 2005 they had bleachers the entire length of the apron which were 2/3 empty. It meant no access to the apron to watch a race. Youbet is going to get my action. $25 for parking and $50 for entry and not being able to go anywhere or see anything is just plain thievery IMO. Not to mention the 3 hour drive each way.

jacksdad 07-16-2007 07:41 AM

I'm with you Slew. I was looking forward to this event since it was announced. The BC at my home track, thought it would be great. The seat prices are one thing, but if you pay to get in I'd think you should at least have a view of the track. Maybe I'm just nuts..........

SuffolkGirl 07-16-2007 08:46 AM

What a rip off! I ordered general admission tix as I don't sit in my seat, I like to wander from the paddock then back to the track and move around throughout the day. I can't believe they would sell tickets that won't let you into the track. When I ordered them I thought they would be down near section 500 since there weren't any section 500 seats designated for sale on Friday or Saturday.

I thought about just watching it on TV but changed my mind hoping to see some of the best horses in the world race, not get saddled up. I think it is unconscionable to sell a ticket to the track with no view of the track.






Quote:

Originally Posted by jacksdad
I'm with you Slew. I was looking forward to this event since it was announced. The BC at my home track, thought it would be great. The seat prices are one thing, but if you pay to get in I'd think you should at least have a view of the track. Maybe I'm just nuts..........


ShadowRoll 07-21-2007 10:21 AM

Well, got notice in the mail yesterday that I got (will get) my tickets.

Holland Hacker 07-21-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
Well, got notice in the mail yesterday that I got (will get) my tickets.

Did it tell you where your seats will be?

Based on what my CC was charged I'm assuiming I'm either in the "Temporary bleachers" at the top of the stretch or in clubhouse turn. Given my choice I would rather be at the head of the lane than the clubhouse turn. Either way the only view of the finish I get will be on the big screen monitors that will be in the infield.

Bigsmc 07-21-2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl
What a rip off! I ordered general admission tix as I don't sit in my seat, I like to wander from the paddock then back to the track and move around throughout the day. I can't believe they would sell tickets that won't let you into the track. When I ordered them I thought they would be down near section 500 since there weren't any section 500 seats designated for sale on Friday or Saturday.

I thought about just watching it on TV but changed my mind hoping to see some of the best horses in the world race, not get saddled up. I think it is unconscionable to sell a ticket to the track with no view of the track.

It's what happens at these small venues. Virtually all of the apron will be taken up by temporary bleachers. There is no room for GA folks to wander up to the rail. It would be a complete cluster, the GA folks blocking the way of the people trying to get to their seats in the bleachers.

ShadowRoll 07-21-2007 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
Did it tell you where your seats will be?

Based on what my CC was charged I'm assuiming I'm either in the "Temporary bleachers" at the top of the stretch or in clubhouse turn. Given my choice I would rather be at the head of the lane than the clubhouse turn. Either way the only view of the finish I get will be on the big screen monitors that will be in the infield.

As jacksdad and SuffolkGirl stated above, I got general admission, thinking that I wasn't going to be in a seat much anyway. Now I'm pissed that I won't even be able to see the track. Caveat emptor.

Bigsmc 07-21-2007 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
Did it tell you where your seats will be?

Based on what my CC was charged I'm assuiming I'm either in the "Temporary bleachers" at the top of the stretch or in clubhouse turn. Given my choice I would rather be at the head of the lane than the clubhouse turn. Either way the only view of the finish I get will be on the big screen monitors that will be in the infield.

Got mine today and yes it tells you where your seats are. I am on the apron Friday and Saturday.

Holland Hacker 07-21-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
Did it tell you where your seats will be?

Based on what my CC was charged I'm assuiming I'm either in the "Temporary bleachers" at the top of the stretch or in clubhouse turn. Given my choice I would rather be at the head of the lane than the clubhouse turn. Either way the only view of the finish I get will be on the big screen monitors that will be in the infield.

I'm bummed out now that I've found out that I'm in section 400 yes the "Clubhouse Turn" This sucks! I saw an article on the Star Ledger on Friday saying how many tickets were "reserved" for various groups and it just made me upset. Should this day be for the fans?

You would think that I would be used to the politcical BS that goes on in NJ, having lived in NJ for practically me entire life. I guess my dad was right when he said that NJ has the Best politicians . . . that $ can buy.

To think that the "good seats will be used by some "Fat Cat" that has doesn't know the difference between a filly and a gelding will be sitting in the "good" seats in the grandstand and I'll be in no mans land. I really do noty like the NJSEA runnig the tracks in NJ.

Bigsmc 07-22-2007 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
I'm bummed out now that I've found out that I'm in section 400 yes the "Clubhouse Turn" This sucks! I saw an article on the Star Ledger on Friday saying how many tickets were "reserved" for various groups and it just made me upset. Should this day be for the fans?

You would think that I would be used to the politcical BS that goes on in NJ, having lived in NJ for practically me entire life. I guess my dad was right when he said that NJ has the Best politicians . . . that $ can buy.

To think that the "good seats will be used by some "Fat Cat" that has doesn't know the difference between a filly and a gelding will be sitting in the "good" seats in the grandstand and I'll be in no mans land. I really do noty like the NJSEA runnig the tracks in NJ.

Don't think that Monmouth is any different than any other BC venue as far as blocking out the best seats from the public. It happens every year, but with the bigger venues it may not be as noticable.


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