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my miss storm cat 07-08-2007 02:59 AM

The July Cup
 
Okay let me get this straight..... Fortune got the mount on Bentley Biscuit, dropped that for the mount on Baltic King and now that Dutch Art is going took that mount?

Anyone else he's planning on riding here?

magic_idol 07-08-2007 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Okay let me get this straight..... Fortune got the mount on Bentley Biscuit, dropped that for the mount on Baltic King and now that Dutch Art is going took that mount?

Anyone else he's planning on riding here?

The funny thing is when the shoe is on the other foot watch the jockeys scream blue murder !!!
We had one here who claimed he should get half of the jockeys winnings if the horse won because he got dropped:rolleyes:

NoChanceToDance 07-08-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by magic_idol
The funny thing is when the shoe is on the other foot watch the jockeys scream blue murder !!!
We had one here who claimed he should get half of the jockeys winnings if the horse won because he got dropped:rolleyes:

Very true. That is big headed jocks for you though. I rate Jimmy though, one of best riding at the moment.

Really looking forward to the July Cup...... i will be there, so if anyone is desperate for any photos of any horses let me know and i will TRY (with the emphasis on the word try) and get some shots.

Sakhees Secret looks like a real tool, it's not an original selection but i hope he wins because he looks like the real deal.

Richard Hannon will have been doing the sun dance for Asset and it looks to have worked wonders.

my miss storm cat 07-11-2007 12:15 AM

Is Red Clubs still in?

my miss storm cat 07-11-2007 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Really looking forward to the July Cup...... i will be there, so if anyone is desperate for any photos of any horses let me know and i will TRY (with the emphasis on the word try) and get some shots.

I was gonna write a list, but it got waaaay too long.

How about this..... if you can, get a picture of one of the not-quite-so-popular types, like Gift Horse ( in an earlier race), Red Clubs (who could actually win) , or Bygone Days.

Oh, or Quito!

Or New Girlfriend!

Or..... :D

PS - If you see Michael Jarvis, tell him THANK YOU.

NoChanceToDance 07-11-2007 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I was gonna write a list, but it got waaaay too long.

How about this..... if you can, get a picture of one of the not-quite-so-popular types, like Gift Horse ( in an earlier race), Red Clubs (who could actually win) , or Bygone Days.

Oh, or Quito!

Or New Girlfriend!

Or..... :D

PS - If you see Michael Jarvis, tell him THANK YOU.

Ha, i will try!

Shall i take a picture of Michael Jarvis?

my miss storm cat 07-11-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Ha, i will try!

Shall i take a picture of Michael Jarvis?

Okay this is what i'd like and it could take a little while so sorry... you're gonna have to forget about betting on / watching the races.

First off, we need two stand-ins..... one slightly hyper to fill in for THE GREATEST HORSE WHO EVER LIVED, and one kinda sedate for the second most beloved. Do you see what i'm getting at here? Sorta like a trip back in time. Rakti and Iffraaj.... those WERE the days, my friend. :D

I'd like the photo taken in late afternoon, when the light is pleasing. None of those the-sun-is-directly-overhead shots svp.

Rakti, or the stand in, will be standing in the bg... acting up but only a little. You'll have to deal with the conversation / motivation aspect.

Now the Iffraaj stand-in is in the fg, with his nose right up by Michael's shoulder. Can you swing this? Am I going too fast? Take notes if you'd like.

Let me work on composition and peppermint placement and I'll get back to you.:p

* * *

(Red Clubs retires at the end of the season).

NoChanceToDance 07-11-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Okay this is what i'd like and it could take a little while so sorry... you're gonna have to forget about betting on / watching the races.

First off, we need two stand-ins..... one slightly hyper to fill in for THE GREATEST HORSE WHO EVER LIVED, and one kinda sedate for the second most beloved. Do you see what i'm getting at here? Sorta like a trip back in time. Rakti and Iffraaj.... those WERE the days, my friend. :D

I'd like the photo taken in late afternoon, when the light is pleasing. None of those the-sun-is-directly-overhead shots svp.

Rakti, or the stand in, will be standing in the bg... acting up but only a little. You'll have to deal with the conversation / motivation aspect.

Now the Iffraaj stand-in is in the fg, with his nose right up by Michael's shoulder. Can you swing this? Am I going too fast? Take notes if you'd like.

Let me work on composition and peppermint placement and I'll get back to you.:p

* * *

(Red Clubs retires at the end of the season).

Ha ha...... well, Irridescence could have stood in for Rakti today, she is one fiesty filly!!!

my miss storm cat 07-11-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Ha ha...... well, Irridescence could have stood in for Rakti today, she is one fiesty filly!!!

Oh did she act up again? God i love her!

NoChanceToDance 07-11-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Oh did she act up again? God i love her!

Yeah, she was a bit full of herself. I felt sorry for her groom. She wasn't nearly as bad as she has been in the past, but she was a bit too healthy and fit if you ask me.

my miss storm cat 07-12-2007 10:37 AM

Did Papal Bull behave today?

NoChanceToDance 07-12-2007 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Did Papal Bull behave today?

He was okay, he got quite warm though. He is an enigma, one his day he is very good (like today) but he really doesn't like racing. Ryan Moore gave him a brilliant ride today.

Got a couple of pics of him if you want, and Laverock.

brockguy 07-12-2007 06:51 PM

Looking forward to the July Cup tomorrow. looks a fab race. I think Hellvelyn is a massive price and could go well. Id love to see Dandy Man prove he is class... And there are some other good races tomorrow. A few nice HawkWings go in the Superlative and I love that horse Ea in the first.. Anyway, Im off to the Mariners Tigers game!

my miss storm cat 07-12-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
He was okay, he got quite warm though. He is an enigma, one his day he is very good (like today) but he really doesn't like racing. Ryan Moore gave him a brilliant ride today.

Oh course he did..... Ace-ie taught him a lot. :)

Good luck to Mine, who has won this how many times(?) and to Vortex and Gift Horse especially (... who won't win but i don't care..... love him to death).

TOO many I like in the July Cup so I'll just stick with Red Clubs to win and hope that Quito is retired after the race.

COME HOME SAFE ALL OF YOU. :)

14:35
20 Run Ladbrokes Bunbury Cup Heritage Handicap
Class 2, £100000.00 added, 3yo plus, £62320.00 penalty 7f
Back to Top

Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(14) 1-11218 Munaddam (USA) E A L Dunlop 5 9 10
2(19) 020-916 Mine (IRE) J D Bethell 9 9 8 T Quinn
3(20) 582323 Fajr (IRE) Miss Gay Kelleway 5 9 7 J F Egan
4(10) 202373 Vortex Miss Gay Kelleway 8 9 7 R Hughes
5(7) 1-41435 Grantley Adams M R Channon 4 9 4 J H Bowman
6(9) 125-222 Intrepid Jack H Morrison 5 9 4 S Drowne
7(11) 1160-34 Something (IRE) T G Mills 5 9 4 J Murtagh
8(6) 6186-38 Racer Forever (USA) J H M Gosden 4 9 3 J Fortune
9(2) 109-020 Bentong (IRE) P F I Cole 4 9 2 T Dean (5)
10(15) 2079-77 Jedburgh J L Dunlop 6 9 0 M J Kinane
11(18) 0153-03 Dabbers Ridge (IRE) B W Hills 5 9 0 M Hills
12(1) 20-3028 Skhilling Spirit T D Barron 4 8 12 R L Moore
13(4) 22-3101 King of Argos E A L Dunlop 4 8 12 J P Spencer
14(5) 591265 My Paris K A Ryan 6 8 11 N Callan
15(17) 70-0305 Gift Horse D Nicholls 7 8 11 S Donohoe
16(8) 110/112 Fixboard F Poulsen 6 8 11 K McEvoy
17(13) 714076 Dhaular Dhar (IRE) J S Goldie 5 8 11 C Catlin
18(12) 11254/9 Fantastic View (USA) J Noseda 6 8 11 S Sanders
19(16) 650222 Zomerlust J J Quinn 5 8 8 G Gibbons
20(3) 000-143 Giganticus (USA) B W Hills 4 8 8 P Robinson


Betting Forecast: 7/1 Intrepid Jack, 15/2 Something (IRE), 8/1 Mine (IRE), Dabbers Ridge (IRE), 9/1 Grantley Adams, 10/1 King of Argos, 12/1 Fajr (IRE), 14/1 Fantastic View (USA), Skhilling Spirit, 16/1 Vortex, Racer Forever (USA), Giganticus (USA), Gift Horse, Munaddam (USA), 20/1 My Paris, Zomerlust, 25/1 Jedburgh, Bentong (IRE), 33/1 Dhaular Dhar (IRE), Fixboard



15:10
20 Run Darley July Cup (group 1)
Class 1, £375000.00 added, 3yo plus, £212925.00 penalty 6f
Back to Top

Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(20) 3235-10 Amadeus Wolf K A Ryan 4 9 5 N Callan
2(5) 3/192-13 Asset (IRE) R Hannon 4 9 5 R Hughes
3(2) 07-4753 Balthazaar's Gift (IRE) L M Cumani 4 9 5 M J Kinane
4(8) 0-41110 Bentley Biscuit (AUS) Gai Waterhouse 6 9 5 R L Moore
5(18) 262-228 Borderlescott R Bastiman 5 9 5 R Ffrench
6(15) 7211-46 Bygone Days Saeed bin Suroor 6 9 5 K McEvoy
7(9) 103-122 Dandy Man (IRE) Tracey Collins 4 9 5 P Shanahan
8(14) 4/3115-1 Electric Beat A Lowe 4 9 5 A Helfenbein
9(1) 617-881 Marchand D'or (FR) F Head 4 9 5 D Bonilla
10(3) 11-1114 Mutawaajid (AUS) M R Channon 4 9 5 J H Bowman
11(6) 6-76040 Quito (IRE) D W Chapman 10 9 5 P Robinson
12(7) 519-284 Red Clubs (IRE) B W Hills 4 9 5 M Hills
13(10) 11-1404 Rising Shadow (IRE) T D Barron 6 9 5 J Quinn
14(12) 114/331 Soldier's Tale (USA) J Noseda 6 9 5 J Murtagh
15(13) 255-405 Drayton (IRE) M F De Kock 3 8 13 W C Marwing
16(11) 111-234 Dutch Art P W Chapple-Hyam 3 8 13 J Fortune
17(4) 11124- Hellvelyn B Smart 3 8 13 T E Durcan
18(19) 1-21012 Prime Defender B W Hills 3 8 13 R Hills
19(16) 314-111 Sakhee's Secret H Morrison 3 8 13 S Drowne
20(17) 411-28 Sander Camillo (USA) J Noseda 3 8 10 S Sanders


Betting Forecast: 4/1 Sakhee's Secret, 5/1 Dutch Art, 11/2 Asset (IRE), 7/1 Soldier's Tale (USA), 10/1 Amadeus Wolf, Bentley Biscuit (AUS), 12/1 Red Clubs (IRE), Dandy Man (IRE), 16/1 Mutawaajid (AUS), 20/1 Marchand D'or (FR), 25/1 Bygone Days, Borderlescott, 33/1 Balthazaar's Gift (IRE), Drayton (IRE), Sander Camillo (USA), Hellvelyn, Prime Defender, 66/1 Rising Shadow (IRE), 100/1 Quito (IRE), Electric Beat

_ed_ 07-13-2007 12:25 AM

Stunning field!

NoChanceToDance 07-13-2007 03:20 AM

I think Sander Camillo is a HUGE price, now back to her best trip. People seem to be forgetting that not that long ago, she was ante post FAV for a classic. She has clearly failed to stay a mile, and back down to six, i think we will see a different horse.

It is raining here at the minute, so i wouldn't want to see too much more for her, but at the moment it's so light that it shouldn't affect the ground much, if at all.

Sakhee's Secret looked the real deal and he might just turn out to be a superstar. It's between him and Asset for me, who ran a massive race on ground he hated at Ascot.

my miss storm cat 07-13-2007 08:55 AM

Giganticus won.... don't know who else hit the board.

Anyone know where Gift Horse finished? Thanks.

my miss storm cat 07-13-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Sakhee's Secret looked the real deal and he might just turn out to be a superstar.

Nice.

Dutch Art 2nd, Red Clubs:cool: 3rd.....

Anyone have a visual? Thanks.

NoChanceToDance 07-13-2007 12:11 PM

Annoyed about Giganticus today, he's a horse i like, but he is quirky. Plenty of money for him this morning and i thought about betting him, but i went for Something in the end who was 3rd.

Gift Horse not good enough today. I know the lad who led him up today, so i spoke to him for a while. You will pleased to know that he still has the ability to win more races, but he isn't as good as he used to be and he needs a confidence booster in a lower grade race.

Sakhee's Secret is a superstar. He travelled like a dream and picked up well. Dutch Art came from the clouds to challenge and he looked like the winner, but Sakhee's had too much for him. Red Clubs was his normal consistant self, just found two of them too good for him today. He is a solid horse who deserves a gr1 win, but keeps finding one or two that are just slightly better for him.

my miss storm cat 07-13-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
but he isn't as good as he used to be
.

I know.....

That's why I love him. I know how good he was... he doesn't have to prove anything anymore. :)

Happy for Red Clubs and yeah, someday.

Giganticus? Shocked but of course I'm happy for Robinson.

CAN THEY PLEASE RETIRE QUITO NOW???????? :(

Start # 118.....

Enough.

NoChanceToDance 07-13-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

CAN THEY PLEASE RETIRE QUITO NOW???????? :(

Start # 118.....

Enough.

I know 118 starts is a lot, but i think they tried to retire him, but when they put him in a big paddock with lots of grass he hated it and tried to escape (i think that was him).

He hasn't got the class he has anymore, but from seeing him today, his coat was gleaming, his ears were pricked, he was looking around at the crowd in the paddock as if to say "i'm here........ i love this sport". I'm glad to report he looked really happy, MMSC.

my miss storm cat 07-13-2007 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I know 118 starts is a lot, but i think they tried to retire him, but when they put him in a big paddock with lots of grass he hated it and tried to escape (i think that was him).

He hasn't got the class he has anymore, but from seeing him today, his coat was gleaming, his ears were pricked, he was looking around at the crowd in the paddock as if to say "i'm here........ i love this sport". I'm glad to report he looked really happy, MMSC.

I'm happy about that anyway and no I had never heard the story...

Oh well.

118 just seems like too much but I've been wrong before.

Still, I'm always afraid for him.

NoChanceToDance 07-13-2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I'm happy about that anyway and no I had never heard the story...

Oh well.

118 just seems like too much but I've been wrong before.

Still, I'm always afraid for him.

I get worried about him, too....... but if he loves doing it (which he does) why stop him.

Persian Punch was the same, and i was SO upset when he went at Ascot but after a while, i realised that is what the horse would have wanted. He went doing something he loved, and everytime i think of him, i just smile :)

magic_idol 07-13-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I get worried about him, too....... but if he loves doing it (which he does) why stop him.

Persian Punch was the same, and i was SO upset when he went at Ascot but after a while, i realised that is what the horse would have wanted. He went doing something he loved, and everytime i think of him, i just smile

Its quite funny some horses just love to run, Eric musgrove had a jumper named Gilligan Loved to jump & did so until the age of 13 when they retired him , he was dead within 3 months:( after that Collic.
One of my horses had a foal but just loved to run so we put her back in work we got a couple o 2nds & was great to see the person i sold it to got a 3rd with her the other day:D .
It really does depend on the horses attitude i reckon why stop a animal doing what it loves to do ?.

If my horses tell me theyve had enough i reckon put em in a paddock as fast as you can better to have a Happy Hack:D Than a grouchie Racehorse:mad:

my miss storm cat 07-13-2007 07:20 PM

Thank you for the pictures..... they're really beautiful. :)

NoChanceToDance 07-14-2007 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Thank you for the pictures..... they're really beautiful. :)

Glad you liked them :)

NoChanceToDance 07-14-2007 07:23 AM

A replay for anyone who hasn't seen the race yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5OYw56xP78

NoChanceToDance 07-16-2007 10:05 AM

by Lee Mottershead and Tony Elves

THE Nunthorpe Stakes was on Saturday described as only a "minor possibility" for Britain's new star sprinter Sakhee's Secret, on Saturday hailed the best winner of the July Cup since champion Oasis Dream.

An impressive defeat of Dutch Art in Friday's Newmarket Group 1 was enough to earn the Hughie Morrison-trained Sakhee's Secret a Racing Post Rating of 126, and he looks set to bid to improve that mark next in the Betfred Sprint Cup at Haydock on September 8.

Morrison, who on Saturday reported his new flagship to be in good order, explained why the Coolmore-sponsored Nunthorpe is unlikely to be on the colt's agenda.

"The Nunthorpe is a possibility but, I suspect, only a minor possibility," said Morrison.

"I'm not gung ho about going to York as it's a very fast five furlongs and the ground there can get very firm in the summer.

"We'll see how he is in the next few weeks but Haydock may fit in better - going there gives us a bit longer and we also know how good he is over six furlongs. After Haydock, I'd imagine we'd end our season at Longchamp, as I have no real desire to go to the Breeders' Cup." Racing Post handicapper Simon Turner's July Cup rating for Sakhee's Secret was the highest since Oasis Dream notched 128 in 2003. Pastoral Pursuits, who won the race for Morrison in 2005, was allotted a figure of 124.

Turner said: "We haven't seen a performance like that from a British sprinter for some time and it's nice to see two three-year-olds leading the division."
Unlike Sakhee's Secret, July Cup fifth Dandy Man is Nunthorpe-bound after running out of stamina on Friday.

Trainer Tracey Collins said: "He lost nothing in defeat and showed blinding pace until he hit the final furlong and the uphill finish. It is a stiff six furlongs on the July course, and he just didn't get home."

Asset, who finished one place behind Dandy Man when 4-1 favourite for the July Cup, is likely to visit Deauville according to Harry Herbert, managing director of owners Highclere Thoroughbred Racing.

"Asset ran a bit flat at Newmarket and didn't travel as easily as he can," said Herbert. "He finished like a train but he lacked the brilliance he showed at Newmarket and at Ascot.

“Maybe he just had a quiet day. Despite that he ran a very good race, and we will aim him for the Prix Maurice de Gheest next."

NoChanceToDance 07-16-2007 10:08 AM

So glad he's not going to the Breeder's Cup. That would probably have ruined him this year.

In my opinion, he is the best sprinter in the world, and as a three year old.... that is some status. He will will improve with another year on his back. I hate to think how good this horse will be in the next two years!!

Rileyoriley 07-16-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I know 118 starts is a lot, but i think they tried to retire him, but when they put him in a big paddock with lots of grass he hated it and tried to escape (i think that was him).

He hasn't got the class he has anymore, but from seeing him today, his coat was gleaming, his ears were pricked, he was looking around at the crowd in the paddock as if to say "i'm here........ i love this sport". I'm glad to report he looked really happy, MMSC.


Do they sometimes make them stable ponies like they do over here?


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