Why must the P6 be a $2 wager?
 

I think its short sighted for those venues to make the P6 a minimum $2 bet. You can bet P3s, which require far less combinations, for a buck. And the trend in most bigger exotics is allowing reduced bet size. I have to think the big betting syndicates aren't going to cut back in how much they fire through, and they'll get more of the smaller players. Just doesn't make much sense.

My theory: the big carryovers are where they generate the most interest, get the most bets and make the most money. Having a $2 minimum makes for less combinations bet by the individual player, and therefore makes it harder to hit, making it more likely that there will be a big carryover. Either that or they're concerned about your gambling problem and think this will discourage you.

That makes some sense but in general, I think people would be more willing to pump in the money even on days with little or no carryovers, and that has to be the majority of the days. So the pools would get bigger, faster.

I was complaining about this the other day. You can bet dime superfectas at some tracks, but the frigging Pick 6 is a $2 wager. Shadow Roll's theory seems to make a lot of sense.

less typing, more reading and combinations you cheap motha

commodores!!!

-bt-

Go smoke yourself you bitter sob and let me worry about the handicapping:D

It makes sense on normal days to create carryover situations. On big racing days with no carryovers and a big minimum guaranteed pool they should offer it for 50 cents or a dollar. Pimlico did this on Preakness Day.

Good point, and makes a lot of sense. But this presumes that track management actually gives two sh*ts about what the average bettor wants.

Ultimately if they get some smaller players playing them for 50 cents on big days they will get more comfortable with the bets and suddenly find themselves playing for 2 dollars on normal days. It isn't like there is going to be a carryover on Traver's Day or JCGC day the majority of the time regardless of the minimum.

The big question is: If the P6 dropped down to a $1 minimum, would handle go up? And if so, would the pools of the other wagers suffer?

Personally, if they lowered the bet to $1 or 50 cents, I know I'd play it more often and it would be additional to what I normally play.

I absolutely love playing the pick 4's at Keeneland since they lowered to 50 cents... and with the polytrack, they still pay good too.

What the hell is a sob.

thank u for whoever got that.

Steven Crist in his book Exotic Betting made a good point that it deserves to have a 2 dollar minimum b/c of the carryovers make the track more money than there would if there were a 50 cent minimum.

I agree, though the bet caters to the large bettor and does not really attract the person to bet who is looking for that grand payoff, they are priced out.

not neccesarily
 

you can play the ticket with 100 bucks and cover urself decent.

i will do it eventually but im sticking to pick 4's right now which have a $1 dollar minimum and .50 cent minimum at Lone Star Park my home track.

But u can win a pick 6 with a 2 dollar ticket, i heard on ATRAB of someone doing so.

its possible.

I think 100 pick 6 tickets which is 50 combos is a quick ticket to the poor house. Sure lightening can strike but I wouldnt bet on it.

100 bucks would be much better invested in a complicated pick 4 bet.

if u do ur research
 

u can hit a pick 6 with a smaller bankroll. if ur really concerned about it what I would do is get three or 4 buddies to chip in 32 bucks with you to where u can cover alot more combinations.

but ur right i would much rather put 100 on a Pick 4 than a Pick 6 although 100 on a Pick 4 is too much for me 50 is my max.

Of course you can hit a pick 6 with any bankroll, its just much much harder to do so with a small bankroll. You can do all the research you want, but in the end they still have to run the race. Your still going to get bad rides, bad dq's, horses that don't fire etc. 100 dollars just does not buy you much of a pick 6 ticket.

My friends years ago you couldn't bet a dollar on anything.In fact depending how old some of you are the minimum bet on and exacta at Santa Anita was $5.

I've hit the pick 6 (twice) on a $96 ticket for $8k and $3k, both carryover days on the inner track. It's next to impossible, though. Both times I had TWO super-solid singles and fortunately got through them both.

You need to invest $500, minimum, to REALLY play the pick 6.

We have a similar bet over here, on saturdays only called the 'scoop six' and on many occassions it has gone over the £1m barrier.

It has been won by the 'small players' a few times now. But it is almost impossible, these people will have had an enormous amount of luck.

As Philcski said, you need to be playing with at least three figures to have more than an average chance of collecting it.

But is this wise...unless you feel like you can REALLY win?


I mean there must be a lot of people who REALLY play the pick 6 yet there are still many carryover days.



I think a lot of big betters are REALLY losing a lot.

Let's not get crazy. I'm still coming to terms with $5 beers at the track.

No question... somebody has to supply the money for these carryovers, and it isn't the $100 p6 players. The thing is, the big bettors might lose a LOT 10 times in a row, then hit the 11th time for a huge number. The small player is more likely to lose 100 times in a row and not hit at all.

Yeah I remember that. What exactly was the point of $5 exacta minimums? And what happened to the handle after they did away with that? It went much higher.

I understand why Steven Crist advocates a $2 minimum for the pick 6, but then I don't understand why he bemoans " a lack of new wagering products"(DRF-7/1) as a reason for declining handle and attendance. What better way to stimulate new growth than $1 pik-sixes,10 cent supers, 50 cent pick 4's and 5's. Hell, NYRA doesn't even offer a pick 3 that culminates with the feature race. You have to bet a pick 4 that culminates with a NYB race 90% of the time. It all goes back to the fact that racing caters to the "whales" and ignores the average bettor. You can't have it both ways!

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Because they all just IS.

It is $2 to keep people like Morty from playing.

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