Scat Daddy retired
 

Multiple-G1 winner Scat Daddy has been retired.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/86090.html

Shocking;)

Funny, I think I told someone last night he would never run again.

The vet said the horse would need 90 days rest....so they figured they should just retire him. Wonderful. I thought that the conventional wisdom employed by many in this business today - including this colt's trainer - would say that a 90-day layoff would mean he would be nice and "fresh" for his next race.
Oh well, it wasn't exactly like I was eagerly awaiting his return.

"Our vets told us he would need 90 days rest, so we would have run out of time to get him back for the major races this year, and the decision was made to retire him to stud,'' Pletcher said.

In other words he was going to be retired at the end of the year anyway...

That is how I read it.

THEBBY! :mad:

shocking, hope he goes to stud in Idaho.....

So, you think an owner should run their horse until it breaks completely down? The horse is theirs to make money with. Would you continue running a horse that you could make millions on in the shed, just so the public could see him run. As soon as he lost a couple races his value and public appeal would drop, and those of you who what to see him run now would never bet on him again.:mad:

The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

A greater injustice I have never seen. It was fine work.

weren't me hon.

I think I just heard Joel's gun go off...

I agree completely. He was a G1 and G2 winner at both 2 and 3.
That sounds really good, and the horse was certainly NOT really good.

You have always been my fav poster.


Too kind.

Isn't that the truth. I was thinking about what will happen to Team Todd's pack of 3YOs as they begin their 2nd half of the 2007 season. Can we envision the same thing for Any Given Saturday and Circular Quay?

AGS has nothing on his resume right now, but I wonder if WinStar would be willing to take a Dwyer win, which is no foregone conclusion, and settle there. Obviously Cowtown Cat is going to make himself look worse as the year goes on and one has to wonder how much will go into this whole turf experiment with Circular Quay.

Team Todd- run the hair off them in the 2YO season, bring ill-prepared/exhausted horses to Triple Crown races, file excuses, then retire. Sorry folks, that's about the long and short of it with him.

NT

Thank you Sweetie.

STEVIE! :mad:

As you mention, Any Given Saturday is in the opposite position of the accomplished Scat Daddy. AGS has yet to win a graded stakes race.
However, with his pedigree (by Distorted Humor and out of an AP Indy mare whose other foal became a graded stakes winner) it would probably take only one graded stakes victory for them to send him to the shed.

No one is saying that they should run the horse again. But the thinking that a psuedo good horse like Scat Daddy had accomplished so much to warrant early retirement if not injured is sad. I would not personally knock a person for selling a horse for profit because profits are so hard to come by in this business. But a horse like Scat Daddy's value wont go down if he loses a few races but it might have gone up he had won a legit fall stake. (not that I think he would have)

Take it easy on him.


He's a 2 year old.

bingo, that is the heart of the matter. any further racing would likely diminish his status and since his status is now obviously inflated, why take the risk of racing.

OOOOOOOOOO

This is a business. You want to make money. Why run him if he is worth more in the shed and running him will not, as several on here have stated, make him worth more there. Those of us who love the sport, need to think more of the horse's well being, rather than our own pleasure. A good $5000 claiming race can be just exciting to watch as a $million GI, and you can usually make more $ betting on them.

OOOOOOOOOO

First Invasor, now Scat Daddy.

How many more of our heores will we see taken out of action?

glad someone appreciated that....I know I did.

Don't expect any adoration from me after that horrible cipher.

if you had paid closer attention to the cipher...you would have seen that it was the 3rd race so you should have bet for 3rd place.;)

Agreed 100%. Why don't people think the connections may know this as well? Sure, maybe they are high on the horse, think he's still getting better, moving forward, etc. -- or maybe not.

In the "maximize value" world -- which is the world this industry is in today -- in a case like this it is often the default decision to retire the horse. Get used to it. Unless there is a drastic shift, it will be more and more common.

Eric

Chuck, I see your point, however, the downside with more than one loss is far greater than the upside of a win (which should almost be expected depending on the spot). Much of what will sell a horse like this at stud is the "hype" or the "what could have been" kind of thing.

Yes, it is sad -- very sad. I agree. However, he loses a couple of races, the reality of the situation is no longer hidden -- as it might be now to some people. Don't forget -- it's not you and me sending mares to this stud.

Eric

:mad:

Quit putzing aound Hossy....I have work 4 u.





Sent ya a job ticket.

Yea, the almighty dollar rules. Again, poor breeding headed to the shed row for the $$$$. A continued money making machine, that puts out panzy ponies.

!!



OOOOOOOOOO

exactly.

I was hoping to bet against this one this year which is my dissapointment in the news. Most of these are a bet-against at anything approaching a classic distance.

Maybe they think they are going to fool someone with his resume over his actual pedigree?
Hes not bad to breed with a solid mare if you want to compete in some ungraded stakes up to a mile and a sixteenth. Maybe breed with a turf mare and with good training, get a decent turf/poly miler for ungraded stakes level races. Thats about it.

His injury when they tried to push him to 9 furlongs and then 10 furlongs along with his need to train in bar shoes , should make him a real bargain.