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Scav 06-30-2006 01:50 PM

Mystery Giver - Block is an idiot
 
I hope he reads this.

This horse has DONE NOTHING but ran his rear end off for you and you put him up for a 40k tag. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN RISK losing this horse, let alone for 40k. He deserves to be on your farm with Ioya Two and the others before you lose him for a tag. MORONIC and I hope Catalano claims him for the 40k and wins the Arlington Million with him just to screw you....

ateamstupid 06-30-2006 01:53 PM

LOL. I saw this the other day and was gonna make a post about it, but I figured you would.

Guess he thinks the horse has nothing left...I'm using him...

On a related topic, there's a $600k purchase dropped from MSWs in for $25k at Hol in the 8th tonight.

Cunningham Racing 06-30-2006 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I hope he reads this.

This horse has DONE NOTHING but ran his rear end off for you and you put him up for a 40k tag. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN RISK losing this horse, let alone for 40k. He deserves to be on your farm with Ioya Two and the others before you lose him for a tag. MORONIC and I hope Catalano claims him for the 40k and wins the Arlington Million with him just to screw you....

Well said....I ran the press box at FG when he won the prestigious Gr.II Muniz Memorial...what a shame.....I really didn't think the Blocks were those kind of people but unless they scratch because they really entered with an alterior motive, I will have lost a lot of repect for that group....shame, shame, shame....One thing that is for certain, if there is karma in any game it is this one and they'll probably get a bad dose of it soon...

SentToStud 06-30-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I hope he reads this.

This horse has DONE NOTHING but ran his rear end off for you and you put him up for a 40k tag. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN RISK losing this horse, let alone for 40k. He deserves to be on your farm with Ioya Two and the others before you lose him for a tag. MORONIC and I hope Catalano claims him for the 40k and wins the Arlington Million with him just to screw you....

See your point but it's his horse. And if he jogs for fun and no one takes him, he's a genius.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-30-2006 04:38 PM

ala dutrow...

Scav 06-30-2006 04:45 PM

This might be one of those situation like how you don't claim off of Duchie, I don't know...He is 8 years old but really, if you are going to drop this low, WHY EVEN CONTINUE? Throw him on the farm and not even risk losing him, I would think a horse like this means more to them, like a family member

Scav 06-30-2006 06:19 PM

Well he won, didn't see the race....Anyone know if he got claimed?

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-30-2006 06:22 PM

yes he won and put his nose down like a champ...

Pedigree Ann 06-30-2006 07:32 PM

No claims in the race. They got away with it.

SentToStud 06-30-2006 07:39 PM

$15.80 to win
no claim
ok, he's a genius.
run him back in the AP Million now.

ArlJim78 06-30-2006 07:50 PM

D Wayne the money burner
 
He had a couple of his good things running today at Arlington.

In the 5th it was Authoritative, a $300K purchase running for a $10K tag.
Lifetime record 9 0-0-1, earnings $4,277. The good news is he is already gelded so he should have plenty of time to earn back the investment.


In the 9th it was Gray Star, a $825K purchase out of Giants Causeway.
Lifetime record, 7 0-0-1 earnings $10,131. However he did take down the show prize money today so the bankroll has swelled a little more.

ateamstupid 06-30-2006 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
$15.80 to win
no claim
ok, he's a genius.
run him back in the AP Million now.

Dunno if that was sarcasm or not.

Scav 06-30-2006 09:33 PM

I hope you guys see my point on this. Personally, and this is me, if I had a horse at his level, that has made me over 1 million dollars, that horse would NEVER seen a claiming tag and would be getting the most expensive mare hookers that I could get my hands on on a weekly basis.

I always thought Block was a good trainer, but today showed me something from a personality angle. Unless he had some Dutchie agreement(Don't try and claim his horses or you won't get stables next year type thing) and talked to some of the bigger outfits about Mystery Giver, I am extremely disappointed as a fan of Chris Block that he would even RISK losing this horse.

This horse in Illinois is like Funny Cide in NY (I know they have accomplished completely different things but you should understand the point I am trying to get)

ALOT of these horses just give it there all and push themselves to the limits and for what, extra hay and maybe a peppermint, to even be put at risk for only 40k is atrocious(?)...This horse could have easily been claimed today and shipped to like Lone Star and just gobbled up purse after purse and made back that 40k plus another 40k, then 2 years later would have ended up in some horse slaughter line.....just unreal

SentToStud 06-30-2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Dunno if that was sarcasm or not.

No , not at all. Heck of a training job. To get a win out of an 8 yo who had not run a decent step in two years... good work. Maybe the Million's ambitious, but still a wonderful run by a nice old gelding. Be interesting to see how where/when/how he runs next. Wonder if Block's glad or sorry he didn't get claimed.

Cunningham Racing 06-30-2006 09:37 PM

Wow!...How in the hell did he pay that much and not get taken...crazy, this sport is at times..I seriously would have stuck around and hammered that Exacta (Ivan Jay Perry - the runner up - might be the best hard-knocking course specialist at ARL in the last 5 years), but I really didn't think MG would get away at that price...I figured he'd be favored off his backclass....absolutley crazy!!!!..Wow....We all look dumb now.:D

Scav 06-30-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
No , not at all. Heck of a training job. To get a win out of an 8 yo who had not run a decent step in two years... good work. Maybe the Million's ambitious, but still a wonderful run by a nice old gelding. Be interesting to see how where/when/how he runs next. Wonder if Block's glad or sorry he didn't get claimed.

Bruce, he snapped his rear cannon bone in the 04 Million I think, he just got back from that.

He won today, it is good to see, but I lost alot of respect for Block the person, he could have found an optional claiming and not had to put him up for the tag....Just plain dumb and selfish

ateamstupid 06-30-2006 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
No , not at all. Heck of a training job. To get a win out of an 8 yo who had not run a decent step in two years... good work. Maybe the Million's ambitious, but still a wonderful run by a nice old gelding. Be interesting to see how where/when/how he runs next. Wonder if Block's glad or sorry he didn't get claimed.

He would get cremated in the Million. He barely won against $40k claimers today.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-30-2006 09:44 PM

ya think...o board and others ..dont be suprised if gorella shows up..

Scav 06-30-2006 09:45 PM

Ateam, don't forget he was on a 2 year layoff, no way he is fit yet....This being said, I don't think he would have ever won the Million EVEN AT HIS BEST. Serious horses come for the Million, but it is always nice to have a local interest in it, Arlington doesn't get the type of horses NY, Cali or Florida gets.

All in all, I just hope Block knocks this claiming crap off, and if I run into him at Arlington(I am considering going tomorrow just to find him) and I am going to go off on him

Scav 06-30-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
ya think...o board and others ..dont be suprised if gorella shows up..

Gorella? Now that would be awesome. You would think she is already showing up to Arlington because of the Beverly D.

SentToStud 06-30-2006 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I hope you guys see my point on this. Personally, and this is me, if I had a horse at his level, that has made me over 1 million dollars, that horse would NEVER seen a claiming tag and would be getting the most expensive mare hookers that I could get my hands on on a weekly basis.

I always thought Block was a good trainer, but today showed me something from a personality angle. Unless he had some Dutchie agreement(Don't try and claim his horses or you won't get stables next year type thing) and talked to some of the bigger outfits about Mystery Giver, I am extremely disappointed as a fan of Chris Block that he would even RISK losing this horse.

This horse in Illinois is like Funny Cide in NY (I know they have accomplished completely different things but you should understand the point I am trying to get)

ALOT of these horses just give it there all and push themselves to the limits and for what, extra hay and maybe a peppermint, to even be put at risk for only 40k is atrocious(?)...This horse could have easily been claimed today and shipped to like Lone Star and just gobbled up purse after purse and made back that 40k plus another 40k, then 2 years later would have ended up in some horse slaughter line.....just unreal

ok, i understand. on the other hand, he could have pulled about $55,000 out of the race today if he was taken and won as well. I guess that's the other way to see it. Who knows... Who would you rather have coaching the Dolphins... Wannstedt or Saban?

ateamstupid 06-30-2006 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ateam, don't forget he was on a 2 year layoff, no way he is fit yet....This being said, I don't think he would have ever won the Million EVEN AT HIS BEST. Serious horses come for the Million, but it is always nice to have a local interest in it, Arlington doesn't get the type of horses NY, Cali or Florida gets.

All in all, I just hope Block knocks this claiming crap off, and if I run into him at Arlington(I am considering going tomorrow just to find him) and I am going to go off on him

Dude, this was his third start back from that layoff...when's he gonna be fit?

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-30-2006 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Gorella? Now that would be awesome. You would think she is already showing up to Arlington because of the Beverly D.

well showing up might show up...and to be spanked by qo baord and g rilla would be awsome ..i dont think biancone cant put here in ...his ego demands it

Scav 06-30-2006 10:04 PM

ATEAM...a two year layoff after shattering his cannon bone, he didn't do anything for two years. How would you feel, look, react to working out if you sat in a chair for one year straight, maybe even 18 months. This isn't knee surgery or knee chip or tendon, had surgery alot like Barbaros(not to the insane extent but you get my point)

EVEN MORE SO now, Block pays to get this surgery done and repair the cannon, and then throws him up for a tag...I am guessing surgery is 100k roughly, maybe Landson can confirm or give us a better idea.

Scav 06-30-2006 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
well showing up might show up...and to be spanked by qo baord and g rilla would be awsome ..i dont think biancone cant put here in ...his ego demands it

Gorella would EXCEL on this turf course, looking forward to seeing her on Million Day, in any capacity. Not sure about Showing Up, Secretariat never draws a big field anymore so it won't surprise me if he won it....If he doesn't win the next one, he won't even come to that, no reason, only a 400k purse, which Dicky D needs to work on

ateamstupid 06-30-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
well showing up might show up...and to be spanked by qo baord and g rilla would be awsome ..i dont think biancone cant put here in ...his ego demands it

Ain't no way Showing Up is going in there if he wins the VA Derby..

So Scav, you're suggesting that Mystery Giver is gonna be much better a few starts down the line than he is now? I'm gonna have to disagree with that.

Scav 06-30-2006 10:21 PM

Ateam, Showing Up will be in the Secretariat at Arlington if he wins the Virginia Derby....THE only way he isn't in that race is if he breaks his leg.....

You realize there is a 5 million dollar bonus if you win both Colonial Races, the Secretariat, and the BC turf, right?

ateamstupid 06-30-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ateam, Showing Up will be in the Secretariat at Arlington if he wins the Virginia Derby....THE only way he isn't in that race is if he breaks his leg.....

You realize there is a 5 million dollar bonus if you win both Colonial Races, the Secretariat, and the BC turf, right?

Dude, that was my exact point. If I read correctly, Hoovesie was saying Showing Up might be in the MILLION...I was saying if he wins the VA Derby, he'll be in the Secretariat...

Scav 06-30-2006 10:27 PM

I don't think Hooves meant that....at least me and you were on the same page

dr. fager 06-30-2006 10:28 PM

I concur...I can't believe he let this horse run for a tag...

but I must admit....I'm laughing so hard about the title....I can't wait for good ole blocky to read this thread and think it's about him, he'll be so dissapointed...:eek:

Scav 06-30-2006 10:29 PM

I didn't even think about that....oh man

dr. fager 06-30-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I didn't even think about that....oh man


so comedy...in the immortal words...of you buddy:D

Scav 06-30-2006 10:32 PM

Good night, I just suffered a BRUTAL beat, one that with another inch of ground, I would have been set up for the next couple months and made back alot of what I have blown recently.....Going to roll my rebate money on Irish something in the 4th at Arlington, if that horse wins, then I am rolling all that over on Equal Opportunity....PEACE OUT

JJP 07-01-2006 12:17 AM

Block hasn't become one of the top trainers in the Midwest by being stupid. He was right; he placed the horse in the spot WHERE HE BELONGED (he didn't run off and win by 10). He won the race and nobody claimed him. The horse hadn't won in 2 years and he's 8 years old. Who would drop $40,000 for that? Its not as if he dropped him in for $5K. Horses are expensive to keep. I don't think anybody should tell owners to NOT race their horses.


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