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Rootdog1 06-06-2007 07:58 AM

Hollywood Wed 6/6
 
Looks like a good pk6 card today (for those of us that like to play small tickets).....anyone else wanna jump on in?

Scav 06-06-2007 08:28 AM

What do you like in the 7th? I have my eye on one horse but I think I am going to get hosed on the odds, thus I am going to have to double him up with the 9 in the last, who should win with the switch and bug weight

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 10:23 AM

In the seventh I have it narrowed down to either Summer Event or Madera Royal. i can't really separate those two but i would be surprised if anyone else won.

Scav 06-06-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
In the seventh I have it narrowed down to either Summer Event or Madera Royal. i can't really separate those two but i would be surprised if anyone else won.

Not a fan of Summer Event at all, jumped up 5pts and coming back to different surface. While I love wagering on Event of the Year offspring in turf routes, not a fan in this spot.

Madera Royal is who I like. I just don't know why Flores jumped, after that last performance.

pgardn 06-06-2007 10:46 AM

I have some time. Im think Im gonna download the card. Strangely, I have done 3 HW cards, and I have done well on all 3. I think the racereplays really help. Probably will not be playing pik 6 though. Anyways I can learn some more from the more full-time cappers.

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 10:51 AM

7th - #6 looks like a nice horse, just hope she transfers that last effort from the cushion to the turf. I like the #2 based off that last effort, but again she has to transfer it to the turf. Imagine has not run a speed fig to win this in her 3 attempts and will bet to even money. She could win and is prob much better then the last shows but I am not confident in her until she proves it on the track.

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Not a fan of Summer Event at all, jumped up 5pts and coming back to different surface. While I love wagering on Event of the Year offspring in turf routes, not a fan in this spot.

Madera Royal is who I like. I just don't know why Flores jumped, after that last performance.

its a young horse coming back off a break for a new rider last time, i'm thinking it was general improvement last time for Summer Event and not as much the surface. I don't think the surface moves her up that much. turf form usually looks interchangeable with cushion from what i've seen. with a recent open lengths win against straight maidens starring me in the face i'm not inclined to throw her out against this group.

It might be the two, but there are questions there also. my only opinion is that I think one of those gets it done here with the 5 fairly close behind.

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
What do you like in the 7th? I have my eye on one horse but I think I am going to get hosed on the odds, thus I am going to have to double him up with the 9 in the last, who should win with the switch and bug weight

You are that in love with the #9 in the last?

Scav 06-06-2007 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
You are that in love with the #9 in the last?

Not really, I could see arguments to the 3 and 4 (Harrington's and Miller's horse)

I just think that with this horses speed, with Talamo, and the outer part, alot of positives not to single. I don't see the 3 lasting. Gonna have to deal with being pinned to the rail and then you have papageorgio on him.....

pgardn 06-06-2007 11:33 AM

The 7th race has as much info as any and is very tough.
You guys have picked a challenging card.

I would have to put 5 horse in the 7th race.

I am less inclined towards the 1,2,4,7,8

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 11:49 AM

I'm going to play the early pk4 and a pick three for 3-5.
I don't like the sixth or eighth races so I'm not dealing with the late stuff.

probably will make a tri or super play in the seventh.

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
The 7th race has as much info as any and is very tough.
You guys have picked a challenging card.

I would have to put 5 horse in the 7th race.

I am less inclined towards the 1,2,4,7,8

yeah I agree on the five in the seventh, you've got to use him because he should be around.

Scav 06-06-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
yeah I agree on the five in the seventh, you've got to use him because he should be around.

You don't have to USE anyone. SINGLE the 2 baby....

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 12:04 PM

Ive got two singles so far...

the 3 in the 3rd (although I kinda like the 6 @15-1)

the 6 in the 6th (this gal can run and is a bargan at 5-2)

I like the early pk4 alot, playing a rather pricey ticket but I think there is a shot to beat some low odd horses.

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
You don't have to USE anyone. SINGLE the 2 baby....

I am staying away from the 5, I like Imagine much better then the 5. The 20-1 shot looks like a fighter that could benefit from a slow pace......

pgardn 06-06-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I am staying away from the 5, I like Imagine much better then the 5. The 20-1 shot looks like a fighter that could benefit from a slow pace......

I like the #9 horse also. The #2 has been the favorite four races in a row against lesser, last race was impressive on syn.

I see why #5 is not liked. Older possibly tired horse. But has faced tougher. Obviously likes the turf, and we seem to have a nice little schedule with well spaced races. 6 horse... got to look as some replays.

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Ive got two singles so far...

the 3 in the 3rd (although I kinda like the 6 @15-1)

the 6 in the 6th (this gal can run and is a bargan at 5-2)

I like the early pk4 alot, playing a rather pricey ticket but I think there is a shot to beat some low odd horses.

I agree with the 3 as a single candidate in the third. i looked at the six and ended up not inspired.
same with the 2 who has one nice race but then some negative signs recently. the only thing that makes me wonder is the trainers percentage with blinkers off and the fact that Solis rides. mixed signals.

in the end it should be the 3 taking the third, stands out here.

pgardn 06-06-2007 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I agree with the 3 as a single candidate in the third. i looked at the six and ended up not inspired.
same with the 2 who has one nice race but then some negative signs recently. the only thing that makes me wonder is the trainers percentage with blinkers off and the fact that Solis rides. mixed signals.

in the end it should be the 3 taking the third, stands out here.

I think this will be a single for everyone. Gold Datnoid got pinched a bit at the start and ran a grinding ground saving race. Possible bad scene would be Sweet Dreams Lady getting all alone and umpressured, unlike the last time these met. Someone will have to eventually go.

Oh. I see they got Gold Datnoid 2/1 ML. And the 3 horse 7/5... no flippin way (4/5 or less)

pgardn 06-06-2007 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
7th - #6 looks like a nice horse, just hope she transfers that last effort from the cushion to the turf. I like the #2 based off that last effort, but again she has to transfer it to the turf. Imagine has not run a speed fig to win this in her 3 attempts and will bet to even money. She could win and is prob much better then the last shows but I am not confident in her until she proves it on the track.

#6 got an absolutely dream trip last time. Sat about 3 to 5 behind the pack relaxing perfectly and then pounced. Looked very good doing it but just got to sit back during most of the race running perfectly alone but close enough.
I love replays. Talamo did a great job.

PSH 06-06-2007 02:24 PM

Hollywood Early Races
 
Looks very chalky first three races.....
Hollendorf in the First and Mitchell in the Third.
Maybe my post will jinx them....

Paul

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 02:40 PM

the 2nd and the 4th are wide open

viscount26 06-06-2007 02:46 PM

I'm curious about the Charm N Broad.
Doug O'Neill puts another bug up, and gets 5 pounds as well

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
the 2nd and the 4th are wide open

i would agree that the fourth is a little open, but in the second I really like Sunshine Ridge, with a little backup from Kona Wind.

i think its a chalky first pk4.

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 03:05 PM

Well, I see Sunshine Ridge as a very beatable fav....he may well win as there isnt much speed but if you toss his last effort on the cushion he is less impressive

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 03:08 PM

pk4

1)2,5
2)1,2,3,4,6
3)3,6
4)1,2,5,7,8,9
$120

Hope I hit, and get my money back....could be chalky but just need one price to upset the apple cart

Scav 06-06-2007 03:17 PM

My last stand....
 
So after the monster hit of 15 days ago, I have paid off all debt (besides car and student loans), paid for Vegas trip coming up, and gave myself 4k in pissing away money to have fun with, and have a cushion to move forward in life with. I have wagered 15 days in a row and it quite possibly could come to an end if I don't hit the late double at the Wood. With my performance on Conscretation at Belmont today, we took a severe hit because he decided to run sore or uninterested. So, we take a last stand, we hit, we continue the insaneness, we don't, we get back to realistic wagering.

7: 2
8: 9

$280 DD.

I am hoping for a $22 per $2 payout.

I am guessing it might open up pretty low because this wager is already in, and that will probably be about 3% of the opening pool :)

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 03:19 PM

Good Luck Scavs...I will be cheering for you brother.

-BT- 06-06-2007 03:21 PM

125
1256
34
1578 = $96


5
1256
34
1578 = $32

gl all

-bt-

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Well, I see Sunshine Ridge as a very beatable fav....he may well win as there isnt much speed but if you toss his last effort on the cushion he is less impressive

Ah....wax on, wax off danielson

pgardn 06-06-2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
So after the monster hit of 15 days ago, I have paid off all debt (besides car and student loans), paid for Vegas trip coming up, and gave myself 4k in pissing away money to have fun with, and have a cushion to move forward in life with. I have wagered 15 days in a row and it quite possibly could come to an end if I don't hit the late double at the Wood. With my performance on Conscretation at Belmont today, we took a severe hit because he decided to run sore or uninterested. So, we take a last stand, we hit, we continue the insaneness, we don't, we get back to realistic wagering.

7: 2
8: 9

$280 DD.

I am hoping for a $22 per $2 payout.

I am guessing it might open up pretty low because this wager is already in, and that will probably be about 3% of the opening pool :)

I used your #2 with the #6 in the seventh Scuds with my 5 horse scratching.
Just lost that last race on a photo.

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 04:18 PM

pk6

3)3
4)5,7,8
5)1,3
6)6
7)2,6,8
8)3,4,8
$108

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 04:20 PM

Pk3
3 / 2 5 8 / 1 3

pgardn 06-06-2007 04:24 PM

I went

35/28/1 jim

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I went

35/28/1 jim

good luck.

looks like those riders did everything they could to trap the three, but in the end their horses were all gassed.

pgardn 06-06-2007 04:30 PM

OK the 3 winning just made my bet worth nothing. That had to be a single on most peoples bets.

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
pk4

1)2,5
2)1,2,3,4,6
3)3,6
4)1,2,5,7,8,9
$120

Hope I hit, and get my money back....could be chalky but just need one price to upset the apple cart

If I hit, I will at least make a little $
1 = 152
2 = 230
5 = 202
7 = 163
8 = 142
9 = 608

Like the 5 if he gets a pace to run, which I think he will....

ArlJim78 06-06-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
If I hit, I will at least make a little $
1 = 152
2 = 230
5 = 202
7 = 163
8 = 142
9 = 608

Like the 5 if he gets a pace to run, which I think he will....

I like the five here also, I played him the hardest on my pk3 tickets.

good luck

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 04:50 PM

you too jim

Rootdog1 06-06-2007 04:59 PM

what a bone head ride by Tom Foley on the 5.....that was horrible

to add insult to getting knocked out of the pk6, the 2 getting headed out cost me $80 in the pk4 payout

pgardn 06-06-2007 05:00 PM

Ticket recycling going on at my house.
Another close loss.


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