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my miss storm cat 06-03-2007 07:15 PM

Time Squared to the Belmont
 
From DRF...


Time Squared to run in Belmont
By JAY PRIVMAN
Time Squared, who was sixth in the Blue Grass Stakes in April before winning an allowance race most recently, will run on Saturday in the 139th Belmont Stakes, trainer Patrick Biancone said Sunday.

Biancone said he believed Time Squared ran well in the Blue Grass, in which he finished just three lengths behind the victorious Dominican. "It was a very good race in a funny race," he said of the Blue Grass, which had a slow pace and a furious finish.

With Kentucky Derby winner Street Sense absent from the Belmont, and a small field expected, Biancone said he theorized, "Why not take a shot?"

Biancone said Time Squared would work at Keeneland on Tuesday and then fly to New York on Friday. Julien Leparoux has the mount.

Rileyoriley 06-03-2007 07:29 PM

I don't have any past performances in front of me. Who's he out of? Thanks.

Hickory Hill Hoff 06-03-2007 07:33 PM

Why not take a chance? Unless Darley has their sights on him.

packerbacker7964 06-03-2007 07:34 PM

Came Home maybe just a guess?

The Indomitable DrugS 06-03-2007 07:35 PM

He's a really bad NY Bred by Fu Peg.

ArlJim78 06-03-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
I don't have any past performances in front of me. Who's he out of? Thanks.

Fu Peg

out of an AP Indy Mare

Rileyoriley 06-03-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Fu Peg

out of an AP Indy Mare

Thanks.:)

blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 07:38 PM

I've always felt the Blue Grass was a perfect prep for the Belmont.

I'm just happy that Patrick will be at Belmont Saturday. I miss him. He's the greatest.

ArlJim78 06-03-2007 07:40 PM

the Belmont is getting more interesting.

now if we find out tomorrow that Cowtown Cat is wheeling back, everything will be set.

PPerfectfan 06-03-2007 07:43 PM

Well hell, they are running Digger, why not this guy? :rolleyes: I really dont know why they are all entering, cause the Green Monkey w/ McCarron riding is gonna win the Belmont.... :D

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-03-2007 07:44 PM

zito has got to have somthing......

10 pnt move up 06-03-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I've always felt the Blue Grass was a perfect prep for the Belmont.

I'm just happy that Patrick will be at Belmont Saturday. I miss him. He's the greatest.

i am sure this horse will be hot on the Sheets, I mean the spacing is perfect.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-03-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
zito has got to have somthing......

corinthian on 1 week rest..matz is a ***** for not putting chelokee in

tiznowthegreat 06-03-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
corinthian on 1 week rest..matz is a ***** for not putting chelokee in

Damn he pisses me off. I know he's a great horseman and is conservative and knows what's best for the horse, but I just wish he would give him a chance. He's one of my favorite horses and I think he would have a chance against these horses. He was one of my picks for the Derby before he didn't make it, then my pick for the Preakness, and then the Belmont but Matz keeps taking him to these smaller level stakes instead of giving him a chance. Oh well, there's obviously a reason he's a pretty good trainer but it just frusterates me because I think Chelokee would be good enough to compete.

blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 07:54 PM

Corinthian is a 4YO Matt.

I don't think Nick really has anyone. CP West could end up having a terrific year but I think he is waiting for the Dwyer. No sense sending him 1 1/2 miles with only three races under his belt. His Preakness was very encouraging.

miraja2 06-03-2007 08:01 PM

I remember liking Time Squared in the Sham stakes awhile back. He ran last that day, and got beat by some real superstars like Kolo and Song of Navarone.
His pedigree seems right for 12f, but he literally has nothing else going for him. I suppose he could plod along for a minor share. If a horse like Andromeda's Hero (another FuPeg) could run second here in '05.....I suppose anything is possible.

philcski 06-03-2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I've always felt the Blue Grass was a perfect prep for the Belmont.

I'm just happy that Patrick will be at Belmont Saturday. I miss him. He's the greatest.

[in best french accident], "Mr. Andy, do you have a cigarette?"

Hickory Hill Hoff 06-03-2007 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
[in best french accident], "Mr. Andy, do you have a cigarette?"

But, Mr. Biancone...."Why run in the Belmont Stakes, is it because Street Sense is not running?"
His answer, a classic line from "The Pink Panther Strikes Again".... "Not anymore" :D

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-03-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Corinthian is a 4YO Matt.

I don't think Nick really has anyone. CP West could end up having a terrific year but I think he is waiting for the Dwyer. No sense sending him 1 1/2 miles with only three races under his belt. His Preakness was very encouraging.

lol thanks..cp will do great this year..corinthian lol..what was i thinking...

sumitas 06-03-2007 09:20 PM

Time Squared if by Fupeg o/o Indy Glory. Indy Glory is a black type full sister to Stephen Got Even. TS is a NY bred.

zippyneedsawin 06-03-2007 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
I remember liking Time Squared in the Sham stakes awhile back. He ran last that day, and got beat by some real superstars like Kolo and Song of Navarone.
His pedigree seems right for 12f, but he literally has nothing else going for him. I suppose he could plod along for a minor share. If a horse like Andromeda's Hero (another FuPeg) could run second here in '05.....I suppose anything is possible.

Or Nolan's Cat?

tycharles01 06-03-2007 10:04 PM

Damn they are coming out of the wood works for this one

By the way its going could end up being a 9 or 10 horse field and people only really knowing 3 or 4 horses in it


Next we will have horses who ran last in the SA Derby and a horse who just won a maiden race.


All I can say is if Curlin or Hard Spun dont't realize this is 1 1/2 miles we could have a horse that CAN run 1 1/2 miles with a big win(WILDCRAZYGUY???)

hockey2315 06-04-2007 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
matz is a ***** for not putting chelokee in

In my opinion Matz is being realistic and knows that Chelokee just isn't that fast. . . His figs aren't great and even though he won pretty easily in Baltimore he beat nobody and seemed to be crawling down the stretch. . .

AeWingnut 06-04-2007 05:53 AM

any local horses running ? I think they would have to take a shot at it. What's 4th pay?

Antitrust32 06-04-2007 06:31 AM

I bet Time Squared is PG1985's pick for the Belmont

KY_Sasquash 06-04-2007 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
In my opinion Matz is being realistic and knows that Chelokee just isn't that fast. . . His figs aren't great and even though he won pretty easily in Baltimore he beat nobody and seemed to be crawling down the stretch. . .


spot on and im not sure a mile and half suits this horse........he's better off waiting for the Dwyer.

Bobby Fischer 06-04-2007 12:01 PM

Time Squared is a decent horse. This is a great spot for the animal as far as win/lose value.

This is one of those animals that was a little more expensive because of the NYBred status, but sooo expensive that NY Bred racing really will not pay for him. Maybe he ends up an NY stallion? Probably rather have had a fu-peg like Ravel if given the choice a year or two ago. Why spend more/similar for the NY status and an obvious name that shouts to that status "Time Squared"? They tried this one out west and it just wasn't working, so Biancone took a hold of the situation and back to his comfort zone in Keeneland where he got this one right. He was a viable longshot in the Bluegrass but lost all chance as the (lack of)pace of that race developed. He is a legit contender in the Belmont to finish underneath. Not really brilliant but he can use long strides to come up late if ridden conservatively. I question his strength. He is a risk to falter at the distance. Much depends on how much if any he has improved or gotten stronger since the layoff after the Bluegrass.

Payson Dave 06-04-2007 12:17 PM

Time Square is the NY Bred that PG85 was so high on....he was pretty green the last time that I saw him run...there are lots of lots worse NY Breds out there.

declansharbor 06-04-2007 12:35 PM

I awoke from a dream this morning, only to realize that Imawildandcrazyguy was the winner of the Belmont. He made a Delightful Kiss-like move to swoop the field. Everyone was hugging me for giving them the winner. Then again, I had pitted cherries before I nodded out, so that could be the reason for such an outlandish sequence of events...Sorry for the topic twist.

byalip 06-04-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycharles01
All I can say is if Curlin or Hard Spun dont't realize this is 1 1/2 miles we could have a horse that CAN run 1 1/2 miles with a big win(WILDCRAZYGUY???)

Did you read the write up of Guy in The Bloodhorse yesterday? Here's the gist:
"The Belmont Stakes has been on the radar for Imawildandcrazyguy since January as the gelding’s main goal. He finished fourth in the Kentucky Derby, but this is the race Kaplan really wants to win.

What do you think about this, Andy?

dearheart54 06-05-2007 12:40 PM

According to Thoroughbred Times (online), Time Squared is not going to the Belmont now, due to the entry of Rags to Riches.


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