Kip Deville Coming Back in 5 Days
 

I heard they are supplementing Kip Deville to the Californian. That means he would be coming back in 5 days. That is very surprising. I guess they figure that the race on Monday didn't take anything out of him since he never really got a chance to run. It will be interesting to see if they actually run him. It looked like it was going to be a 6 horse field. I think that is one of the reasons they supplemented him. But it turns out that it's going to be a 12 horse field. If he does run, it will be the first time in a while that he's run on something other than the grass.

Is this the race that Perfect drift is shipping in for?
With that size of field, could be an interesting betting race.

Yes, that is the race with Perfect Drift.

well I agree that he didn't put in his run last weekend. he looked bottled up to me for the majority of the race which I don't think is where he wants to be. What is the distance of the Californian?

Doesn't matter, Kip will just add more money to the bankroll when he runs 5th. Just some pissed off connections because they didn't run well and think it was because of the trip.

no doubt you are right about the disappointment part, but I wouldn't necessarily dismiss him until knowing who he is facing. This horse has serious speed. I am in the group that thinks his loss was in part due to the trip.

These junk tracks give an advantage to turf horses so why not run?

I'm a big Kip fan but there's no way he wins this. . . I'd expect him to need a LONG break after this race. . .

GO PD!

8th (4:50)
Californian S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Perfect Drift Court J K 116 L
2 Saint Stephen Espinoza V 118 L
3 Porfido (CHI) Talamo J 116 L
4 Boboman Solis A 118 Blk-On L
5 Hockey the General Garcia M 116 L
6 Jack's Wild Blanc B 118 L
7 Sun Boat (GB) Baze M C 116 L
8 Wilko Nakatani C S 116 L
9 Buzzards Bay Valdivia J Jr 116 L
10 Kip Deville Smith M E 120 L
11 Grand Point Gryder A T 116 L
12 A. P. Xcellent Migliore R 116 L

Buzzard's Bay wins that race for fun, bunch of rats, Kip Deville isn't a 9 furlong horse anyways

You're not worried about Wilko?

so worried I can't keep anything in my stomach..Not

Unload time on the Bay

I dont see how they can run this horse, he even drew poorly.

yeah of course i was joking.

I'm not as high as you on the Bay though.

Hopefully they are stupid on Saturday and run him, helps us non-tilt people.

Considering Kip Deville could be a Breeders Cup Mile favorite, they would be morons to run him back so quick for this race. They should be setting their eyes on the Turf Eclipse, not this race.

Kip Deville will not be a Breeders Cup Mile favorite.

I would bet he is one of the top 3 in the ML. I would take him over any American horse at 1 mile. His effort at Keeneland against Showing Up made me a believer. I think the beyer was around 105.

Ashkal Way if he's healthy?

Dutrow has done it before (and will do it again) -- and has been successful at it. I guess we will soon see.

Eric

He had a soft trip that day---and beat a horse making his return off a layoff who's since been injured.

I'm not sold on Kip Deville....I realize he got a very moderate ride on Memorial day---but he probably figured to get that kind of ride going in---he's pretty overrated IMO.

What the hell kind of a name for a horse is Hockey the General?

That horse is a good horse and has a shot to hit the board, just off memory. I hit that horse a couple times recently at the SA meet

Nobody mentioned the biggest reason not to bet Kip in this race.....


Mike Smith ON.

Good to know.
I have never heard of him before, but all of the horses that I HAVE heard of in this race are certainly vulnerable.

Kip was boxed in with no place to run until the stretch......but then he was turned loose and he ran hard but was unable to keep up with Becrux and was being passed up by Right Special. With a clear trip, he would have been closer to the winner but doubtful he would have won.

On paper this is a great race. 5 Grade 1 winners in this race and a field of 12 (right now). Better than most of the crappy 4-horse fields we get so often...

ALostTexan

Is he trained by Baffert?? Thanks in advance..

I'll take Boboman in this spot.

I agree 100%

From a betting perspective, you are absolutely correct. This is a good race.
From a field-quality perspective, I would say it is just okay. That "five G1 winners" stat you mentioned is a bit misleading since Buzzard's Bay's G1 win came in '05, Wilko's in '04, and Perfect Drift's in '03. None of them have been G1 winners either this year or last year.
It is still a very nice field for a G2, but it isn't exactly the quality you might expect when you have five G1 winners in one race.
Also, who is the fifth (other than the three I mentioned and Kip Deville) G1 winner in this field? I can't think of it.

Boboman won the G1 Hollywood Turf Cup in '06.

Thanks......and welcome to the board.

Thanks, happy to be here.

LOL:p

Hope you crushed him Scavy.