belmont sunday /church..
 

here is a quick look without ml....this is exacta day ill try to roll exactas the whole day on both cards ..see if our roi is good or bad...

belmont........................................... ..................................................

race 1 .7 f allw 45k

pp 6 lady jove 3rd 7.00
pp 5 maddys hart
pp 2 k starlet wins 7.00

race 2 1 mile and 1/16th turf msw 44k

pp 8 beautiful lil 2nd 6.90
pp 7 hollywood classic
pp 1 risky agenda

race 3 1 mile mdn sp wt 44k

pp 1 strikes a chrd 3rd
pp 6 apache plume
pp 4 shoe babe wins 12.20

race 4 1 mile and 1/16th turf state bred allw 44k

pp 9 my dear annie 3rd 3.20
pp 8 salinas mask
pp 6 daring dreamer

race 5 7f 30oc.

pp 9 dynergy
pp 5 d money 2nd
pp 7 im a numbers guy 3rd

race 6 6f turf claim 35k

pp 7 joyex ruler 2nd
pp 10 sing to the sky 3rd
pp 9 lunar r

race 7 1 mile 75/0c

pp 9 champ safi
pp 2 welcome again 3rd
pp 4 tall story

race 8 6f turf the jaupiir

pp 11 ecllastic wins 50.00 21.00 7.20
pp 5 carnera
pp 6 metro meteor
wygilia if in

race 9 1 mile and 1/16th turf state bred 42k

pp 6 by her self
pp 11 jesse justice wins.....
pp 1 delitefull one


churchill downs............................................. ..................................

race 1 1 mile maiden claiming 30k

pp 2 st jamie
pp 4 shakeys prize wins 7.80 4.40
pp 6 pos cat

race 2 1 mile and 1/16th claiming 30k

pp 3 how bout them 2nd ext 109.20
pp 5 thunder gusher wins 49.00
pp 7 sea of g

race 3 7f msw 48k

pp 4 past the point wins
pp 3 red hot poker 2nd 4/3 ext 60.40
pp 2 for michals dad

race 4 6f 10k

pp 6 peace pledsge 2nd
pp 5 star quest
pp 1 gamblers cove

race 5 4.5f msw 48k

pp 10 got bling
pp 6 debrons leg wins 30.00
pp 3 express chick

race 6 6.5f claiming 50k

pp 3 nysy body
pp 1 chackity glack
pp 5 no fancy title

race 7 7f mdn sp wt 48k

pp 5 media city 2nd
pp 9 portobello road wins 9.00 ext 9/5 87.60
pp 7 thorn song

race 8 1 mile 100/oc

pp 3 chippawa trail 3rd ext 15.00 tri 58.00
pp 2 wiggins wins
pp 6 bully for you 2nd

race 9 6f allw 50k

pp 1 scoprius
pp 9 smart sherrif
pp 6 wham

race 10 5f turf 40k

pp 11 chosen chief ext 122.00
pp 10 primal peak 2nd
pp 7 justice for wins 15.00......good luck dt ers..thats 19 races x 12 bucks per race 228..invested..will update after scr..............hooves

post scipt we had alot of 2/3rds and out right winners at belmont but it fell together at chuchill downs

we wagered 228.00 and got back 394.20 ill take that and be happy..didnt get to enjoy the benifits of a 30 buck winner and a 50.00 winner excotic wise.. its a fun exersise and we all should take stock and do this from time to time glue your bets for a day..to just exactas and see what that does for you..and yes i picked the 50 winner of the juniper on top... clown

Good Luck Mathew...

Scav's Ticket of the Day
 

Yes, I am getting cocky :)

Belmont

7: 5,6
8: 8
9: 11

Ticket is a $2 ticket total. WITHIN everyone's budget. Could get $12 back on that $1....

I don't see anyone that will run with Weigelia(although I worry about his last race being so huge TG wise), the 1 scare me a little, if you want

7: 5,6
8: 1,8
9: 11

Maybe play the 8 in the middle leg for 80% of your risk and the 1 for 20% of your risk

Scavs- I think Weigelia is a little bit of a horse for the course at Calder. . . I'd definitely expect him to regress off his last race- don't know how much and don't have PPs for today but just something I've noticed. .. Good luck and keep making that paper. . .

SCAV
 

Looks like should just pound the late double $150 DD 8/11
and get 3-1.
PSH

we are on our way ....

Nice call in the Jaipur Hooves.

Nice work there in the 8th Hooves!
24-1.
Giant killer strikes again!!!

Great call, hooves.

Hooves - Very nice call in 8th. Hope you scored on it.

Hooves buddy you are the man....$50 winner at Belmont on top......Nice Job again....and again.....and again!!!

yeah, horrible performance there, I played the below ticket (only ticket of the day at Belmont)

05/27/07 BEL 7 $400 Pick-3 5,6 / 1,8 / 11 ------ $0.00

Arlington bailed me out today from a complete slaughter

well we tore that ass up today ill check results in the am but ..i think we did ok.......

Nice job, hooves. . . +$166.60 if my math is right

Guys
 

Hooves picked the 8 @ Belmont in the 8th race - Weigelia - the horse that won 11 (Ecclesiastic) broke from the 8 hole.

So he had no $50 winner.

I think Matt was saying that his exacta box would include the 8 if he drew in my friend. The 11 is clearly on top as his first selection for the race.....

52 points HOOVES!!!!!

Please.


I don't see Weigelia in Hooves top three.

Read 'em any way you want. I see an 11,5,3 with a toss in of the 8 if he stays in. I see the 11 right on top.

Nice going again Matt.

But ya gotta love a guy who makes his first post an argument.......lol.

Welcome....

jvendetti should eat crow!
 

Hey, what tracks do you play? I want to take your money!

Re-read posts above... and I believe an apology from you is in order to Hooves. He had Ecclesiastic as top choice.

Hey, jv, do you have $50 horse for us today?

This may be the single greatest first post in internet history.

Jealous anyone?

Yes, I am.

His phrase, "the horse that won 11 (Ecclesiastic) broke from the 8 hole," is beyond my comprehension and, most likely, beyond anybody's.

If you are playing perfectas boxes with his plays,what did you win ?? He didnt hit a thing. Am I misssing something here ?:rolleyes:

Yes you are.

We were applauding him for having a $50 horse as his top selection. How anybody bet the races was up to them. Matt said it was "exacta day", he may have been playing around or he may have been betting them, it really doesn't matter.

He had the horse on top, it paid $50, that's good handicapping in anybody's book.

It sort of goes beyond that.....Matt posted his picks. He never said " I'm a genius....I am betting x phony internet dollars on them.....I love them all....blah blah blah. " He also never came back and patted himself on the back. A few people noticed he made one terrific pick and congratulated him. But, of course, a couple jerks had to suggest God knows what for God knows what reason. It's just the typical crap that goes on in message boards that basically discourages people from sharing information. Pathetic losers who can't stand to see anyone even possibly winning a bet.

But, look at it this way Bigs, it's basically just a backlash from how pissed off they are that you and Scavs made a score earlier this week. There has to be some consolation in knowing that.

i hear that..bigs 2 pick six scores and scavs 1 are worthy of kudos for sure...my intent was to do an exersise and see what the roi would be from the plays posted in hopes of getting some here to see that it may work for them..to try it..but in the end it was a bust..as there is allways a hater on frigging board...and if i was to pat myself on the back its would be for the late double at church paying 1200 sat ..2 fifty and one 30 horse sunday..as you said why bother,,,,,,,,,,lol

If you had to give advice on how to bet 3 selections or 4 selections how would you tell them to bet them ? I think by throwing out there that many plays you confuse the common bettor.

he has stated over and over again that they are simply a guide for everyone outlining the horses he likes in any given race....no one (even Matt) suggests that they are to be used as some type of rosetta stone.

can we move on to Monday's races? :)

Keep doing it Matt. I'm sure myself and many others consult your picks with our own weekend handicapping.

I appreciate when you and Steve (and the many others) post their picks. Maybe someday I'll get the internet courage to do so.

Amen to that!

I'm pretty light on Belmont opinions today.

You missed the point.If a new person comes to the board and see's these plays,what advice would you give him on how to bet those plays ? Its just a common question a new person might ask if he or she was to read them posts.To me,I use my own judgement on what others play.:D

actually i think you are missing the point...he isn't putting out 'plays' he is putting up his opinion about the most likely horses in the races...making 'plays' is a personal decision that even a beginner has to learn for himself.

to see a person who puts out plays check out what gus/bogey does...he lays out plays with his opinion.

Thank you,but you dont have to teach me anything on the subject,been doing this a long time,maybe longer then you.I was just looking at it as a stand point of a new member reading the post.

I was not trying to teach you anything but nice job trying to imply that since you may have been at this longer than me that you know more about it...that's quality.
i'm not a handicapper nor have I ever claimed to be....and quite frankly new member or not/skilled handicapper or not--anyone who joins an internet message board and just blindly bets whatever opinions are posted about races deserves whatever outcome they get...

You want advice? Here's advice.

1. If the man is gracious enough to share his thoughts on a race, that's enough, period. If it sparks any well meant and modulated debate/discussion, that's even better.

2. If you want to turn his thoughts into betting "advice," take the longest price of whatever horses he lists for a race and bet it to win.

3. It's a great thing that serious horseplayers are sharing ideas and races they like. The worst thing that happens is that someone gives an extra measure of thought to a horse they did not initially like. At it's best, some very good things can -- and do -- happen here.

4. If you are suggesting anyone here is claiming a novice horseplayer can make long term returns off of anyone's listed selections made a day before a race is run, you are wrong and that is what you are suggesting.

5. If a novice player, or anyone, is able to learn how another person saw merit in a long priced horse they had dismissed and learned in the process, that's what I think most of us are hoping for and the reason why we enjoy this group.

You want more advice? Contact my advisor, at www.mysticzelda.com.

good luck.

Wow,that was good.I think they should post this up front before anyone enters the forum.Very well done and put.:D

i personally am grateful for the selections please please dont let some critics stop you again thanks for late double at churchillon sat.