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boldruler 06-28-2006 04:17 PM

No Bandini in Suburban
 
Looks like Bandini is out. Not exactly a great field in my opinion.

Gander 06-28-2006 04:17 PM

Thats the understatement of the decade.

slotdirt 06-28-2006 04:20 PM

Please don't take me to Negativetown.

Gander 06-28-2006 04:22 PM

It will be a nice betting race. The sky will be blue on Saturday and the sun will be shining. The Red Sox will beat the Mets again tonight for #11 in a row. I love gummy bears and watermelon.

boldruler 06-28-2006 04:23 PM

The Dwyer is looking pretty awful too.

boldruler 06-28-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
It will be a nice betting race. The sky will be blue on Saturday and the sun will be shining. The Red Sox will beat the Mets again tonight for #11 in a row. I love gummy bears and watermelon.

Pedro will take down the Sox tonight. Tough getting excited with a 12 game lead.

Gander 06-28-2006 04:26 PM

I will bet you a pound of gummy bears the Red Sox win the game tonight.

You on?

They have to be good quality, not the cheap kind you get at grocery stores. The real stuff they sell at candy stores. :cool:

boldruler 06-28-2006 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
I will bet you a pound of gummy bears the Red Sox win the game tonight.

You on?

They have to be good quality, not the cheap kind you get at grocery stores. The real stuff they sell at candy stores. :cool:


Fine. Are you one of the Saratoga guys. I will be up there for the Jim Dandy and the Test, so I can collect either weekend. I will take a pound of swedish fish.

Gander 06-28-2006 04:39 PM

Okay, I like Swedish Fish even better. Lets make that the bet- 1 pound. Have to be good swedish fish. When you are up here we can take a ride and grab these.

slotdirt 06-28-2006 04:40 PM

Tim, are you going to say every single race that doesn't include Flower Alley is a crappy race like you did last year with the Suburban or this year with the New Orleans Handicap that only featured Brass Hat, et. al.?

boldruler 06-28-2006 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Okay, I like Swedish Fish even better. Lets make that the bet- 1 pound. Have to be good swedish fish. When you are up here we can take a ride and grab these.

Done. A pound it is.

blackthroatedwind 06-28-2006 04:50 PM

The problem is that every year the older horse division seems to get thinner and thinner and thus these Grade 1s get fields of mediocrities. It isn't like last year's Suburban was a good field either.

To be honest, I much prefer a competitive race, like last year's running and perhaps this year's, to a pretty uncompetitive field save one horse, like Mineshaft's win. And, at least they are a slightly higher grade of mediocrity that the co-featured Mother Goose is attracting.

Gander 06-28-2006 04:52 PM

Slot-
Brass Hat is a likeable guy. How can I not root for a man name Buzz?
I would put him on the respectable 2nd tier of older horses with maybe Buzzards Bay, Perfect Drift and Funny Cide. The first tier includes the Lava Man, Surf Cat and Flower Alley. Thats it.

As far as the Suburban, I am all for it. I love competitive betting races. The public will have no clue as to who to bet.

Whats up with the sprint division this year? Can you make any sense of it?
Is Anew for real, is Bordonaro physically not stable, what happened to Don Six?

Betsy 06-28-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
The Dwyer is looking pretty awful too.

I don't agree, not with Corinithian pointing for it. I'm very intrigued (as a fan of his) to see how he's developed since his injury; he's so talented, and if he's grown up some since, he's going to be a good one.

Suffolk Shippers 06-28-2006 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Pedro will take down the Sox tonight. Tough getting excited with a 12 game lead.

Easy having a 12 game lead in the NL East. Pedro done after 3...8-1 Sox.
That being said, I grew up watching Pedro Martinez pitch for the Sox, and I kind of feel for the man, it is clear he didnt want to be out there tonight...

boldruler 06-28-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
Easy having a 12 game lead in the NL East. Pedro done after 3...8-1 Sox.
That being said, I grew up watching Pedro Martinez pitch for the Sox, and I kind of feel for the man, it is clear he didnt want to be out there tonight...

Pedro cost me a pound of fish. He needed a good beating and so did the Mets. They have gotten way too arrogant with their big lead. His gimme double play he forgot to turn proved he was being lazy and wasn't mentally prepared to pitch. I guess I can't blame him.

Part of me likes seeing the Red Sox win and keep the Yankees 4 back in the loss column. I love the Mets but a 12 game lead in a terrible division leads to boredom for the fans and I would imagine the players. The games mean absolutely nothing. They have put themselves in a situation where we get to wait around for months for the playoffs. Right now my attention has just turned to rooting against the Yankees, that is how boring it has gotten.

The Mets need to tinker with the roster and get another pitcher anyway. If Pelfrey works out and they get another pitcher they will be set for the playoffs. Especially with El Duque. Pedro might be the #3 come playoff time.

Gander 06-28-2006 07:47 PM

Pedro cost me a pound of fish.

LOL! That sounds funny.

Agree, its never a bad thing rooting against the Yankees.

A Rod's HR turned my stomach today. As soon as it left the bat, I turned off the TV. Saw no reactions at all, I knew that was gone.

boldruler 06-28-2006 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
Pedro cost me a pound of fish.

LOL! That sounds funny.

Agree, its never a bad thing rooting against the Yankees.

A Rod's HR turned my stomach today. As soon as it left the bat, I turned off the TV. Saw no reactions at all, I knew that was gone.

My hatred for the Yankees is not quite on par with my hatred for the Braves, so his homerun didn't really bother me because any Brave loss is a good loss.

As for the Sox, we won when it counted. :)

Ironhorse 06-28-2006 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
I don't agree, not with Corinithian pointing for it. I'm very intrigued (as a fan of his) to see how he's developed since his injury; he's so talented, and if he's grown up some since, he's going to be a good one.

Corinthian was not nominated to the Dwyer.

1st_Saturday_in_May 06-28-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
My hatred for the Yankees is not quite on par with my hatred for the Braves, so his homerun didn't really bother me because any Brave loss is a good loss.

I hate both teams as well. Have hated the damn Braves ever since Sid Bream slid into home just before Bonds throw got to Lavalliere in the 92 NLCS - I was 5 years old and have hated the Braves since. Really pissed me off when the Braves used the promo slogan "Where were you when Sid slid?" to promote themselves. First time I ever cried over a sporting event :(

eurobounce 06-29-2006 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
I hate both teams as well. Have hated the damn Braves ever since Sid Bream slid into home just before Bonds throw got to Lavalliere in the 92 NLCS - I was 5 years old and have hated the Braves since. Really pissed me off when the Braves used the promo slogan "Where were you when Sid slid?" to promote themselves. First time I ever cried over a sporting event :(

I hate the Sox and Yanks and Braves--lol. But the team I dislike the most is the St Louis Cardinals. I grew up with the Big Red Machine. Plus being in Indy we had the Reds farm system team here for years. So I am a Reds fan. In the American League I really like the White Sox.

Betsy 06-29-2006 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironhorse
Corinthian was not nominated to the Dwyer.

He wasn't? Wow, that's a shock. Where did you read this? Jimmy Jerkens kept saying that he was pointing Corinthian to the Dwyer..........how disappointing.

zippyneedsawin 06-29-2006 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
He wasn't? Wow, that's a shock. Where did you read this? Jimmy Jerkens kept saying that he was pointing Corinthian to the Dwyer..........how disappointing.


here's a list of nominees according to NYRA.com

89th Running Of
THE DWYER (Grade II)
$150,000
(Up to $28,500 NYSBFOA)


TO BE RUN TUESDAY, JULY 4, 2006

CLOSED SATURDAY, JUNE 17, 2006 WITH 23 NOMINATIONS*


FOR THREE YEAR OLDS
By subscription of $150 each, which should accompany the nomination; $750 to pass the entry box; $750 to start. The purse to be divided 60% to the winner, 20% to second, 10% to third, 5% to fourth, 3% to fifth and 2% divided equally among remaining finishers. 123 lbs. Non-winners of $200,000 at a mile or over in 2006 allowed 2 lbs. $60,000 at a mile or over in 2006 or $40,000 twice in 2006, 4 lbs.; $50,000; or $30,000 twice at a mile or over, 6 lbs. $30,000, or three races, 8 lbs. (Maiden, claiming, starter, restricted or restricted stake races not considered in allowances.) Starters to be named at the closing time of entries. A trophy will be presented to the winning owner.
ONE MILE AND ONE SIXTEENTH
Horse Owner Trainer
Awfully Smart Jayeff B Stables Alan E. Goldberg
Circle the World Michael B. Tabor Todd A. Pletcher
Da Stoops Karl Watson Bob Baffert
Deputy Glitters Joseph Lacombe Stable, Inc. Thomas Albertrani
Discreet Cat Godolphin Racing, Inc. Saeed bin Suroor
Doc Cheney My Meadowview Farm Nicholas P. Zito
Dontfearthereaper Winged Foot Stables Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
Great Point Robert V. LaPenta Nicholas P. Zito
Habsburg Darley Stable Eoin G. Harty
Hemingway's Key Kinsman Stable Nicholas P. Zito
Hesanoldsalt Live Oak Plantation Nicholas P. Zito
High Cotton Peachtree Stable Todd A. Pletcher
Keyed Entry Starlight Stable LLC Todd A. Pletcher
Like Now John J. Dillon Kiaran P. McLaughlin
Little Cliff Robert V. LaPenta Nicholas P. Zito
Regent Spirit Kinsman Stable Nicholas P. Zito
Roman Dynasty Allen E. Paulson Living Trust Todd A. Pletcher
Showing Up Lael Stables Barclay Tagg
Strong Contender John C. Oxley John T. Ward, Jr.
Tasteyville Fox Ridge Farm, Inc. Patrick J. Kelly
Throng Starlight Stable LLC Todd A. Pletcher
Ultimate Goal WinStar Farm LLC Todd A. Pletcher
Valid Notebook Paul P. Pompa, Jr. Patrick L. Reynolds


http://www.nyra.com/chart/lookupstak...k=B&stakes=418

Buffymommy 06-29-2006 09:52 AM

Euro,
1st Sat,
and
Boldruler,

Ya bunch of haters! Hate the spankies, don't hate the Braves. Those are my boys. :p

Cajungator26 06-29-2006 10:03 AM

Off topic, but does anyone have the entrants for the Triple Bend? My stupid computer here at work won't let me look at anything regarding it because it's considered "gambling." :eek:

I need to make my picks today because I'll be gone all weekend.

Gander 06-29-2006 10:31 AM

Jimmy's horse isnt ready to run in a big race like the Dwyer. Your likely to see him in an allowance spot in the next 2-3 weeks and if all goes well, maybe he'll be pointed for the Travers. Its not as daunting of a race without Barbaro out of the mix.

slotdirt 06-29-2006 10:31 AM

Whoa, can someone explain to me why I'm no longer a juvenile and now I'm just plain old "Pimlico?"

Buffymommy 06-29-2006 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Whoa, can someone explain to me why I'm no longer a juvenile and now I'm just plain old "Pimlico?"


I am Hollywood Park. What is up with that? Shouldn't I be Gulfstream or Calder?

slotdirt 06-29-2006 10:34 AM

I want to be at f'ing Charles Town? Is this supposed to be some kind of status thing? Because if so, I might actually think CT is a step up from Maryland racing.

Gander 06-29-2006 10:34 AM

And I am Hawthorne, geez what an insult!

Buffymommy 06-29-2006 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
I want to be at f'ing Charles Town? Is this supposed to be some kind of status thing? Because if so, I might actually think CT is a step up from Maryland racing.


But you are where the Preakness is held. I get to the be the concrete track...

Betsy 06-29-2006 11:16 AM

Thanks, Zippy!

Gander, that's true about the Dwyer - it would have been exciting, but he may not even be ready to race yet. I'll be excited no matter what race he's entered in.


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