Where is Upstate NY...
 

This could get interesting!!!

Like I just said FINGER LAKES region

I know what you said silly...didn't want to hijack the the argu...Met Mile thread.

Bring on the debate!! Hahaha!

Finger Lakes to me, is either Central or Western, NY.

Albany/Adirondacks north (you could get away with Utica), Upstate.
Syracuse, Central.
Roch/Buffalo, Western.
Binghampton/Elmira/Catskills, Southern.

This is an debate that can go on and on.

I just started saying I am from VT, since I am closer to VT then any place that gets thrown at you when you say you are from NY or Upstate, NY.

"Oh Saratoga/Lake George, that's near Niagara Falls right? Oh it is not? Oh so near the City are you?."
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Man I wish my sister was on DT arguing about upstate NY. She went to Ithaca College and Rochester U an always referred to those two places as upstate NY. I can see Rochester as upstate NY because if you go any further north you would be swimming in Lake Ontario.

Don't get Jay Cronley going. He gets mad fast but he is a great handicapper just look at thos derby picks

I'm originally from Albany, now live on Long Island.

In my mind "upstate" is anything North of the Tappan Zee Bridge.

Guess it is all relative. My folks in Binghamton always point out, if they were any further "down" they would be in PA.

This is a terrible definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

What the REAL (MY) definition is:

Long Island: Nassau, Suffolk counties
New York City: New York, Queens, Kings, Richmond, Bronx counties
Hudson Region: Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Dutchess, Putnam counties
Catskills: Delaware, Greene, Sullivan, Ulster, Columbia counties
Capital District: Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Washington counties
Northern/Adirondacks: Warren, Essex, Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Fulton, Lewis, St. Lawrence, Jefferson counties
Central: Montgomery, Schoharie, Otsego, Oneida, Herkimer, Madison, Chenango, Broome, Tioga, Cortland, Onandaga, Oswego counties
Finger Lakes: Cayuga, Wayne, Tompkins, Chemung, Schuyler, Yates, Seneca, Ontario, Stuben counties
Western: Monroe, Livingston, Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegany, Niagara, Erie, Cattaragus, Chatauqua counties

To me Rochester is Western.

If you say Rochester is Upstate and not Western, what would you call Canton or Thousand Islands? Artic New York?

;)

I agree with your statement, excpet for Washington County. Washington borders VT and if far north of Albany, and is very rural, labeling it with Albany, Rensselaer, Schnectady and Saratoga make it seem more urban. Let's be honest, Washington County's cow population is larger then the human population, even if you doubled the human popluation.

See above. Canton = St. Lawrence County, right? "Northern/Adirondacks"

More like the BOONDOCKS :D

Haha, true, what would you call those that live there? We called them "Woodchucks." LOL

Oh, I know. I got a flat tire there once and the hillbilly that changed it for me was like a NASCAR pit guy. But it's a big county, doesn't really fit the Adirondacks, so it gets put with Saratoga/Capital. The Albany newspaper gets delivered there, I'm guessing? Sniper?

Let's be honest... much of Saratoga County is rural as well.

Yes.

Post Star out of Glens Falls (Warren County) is the main paper of Washington County. If anything it fits with Warren County.

I grew up and still work in Washington County.

How about we just give it to Vermont? :p

I'm not sure if you're kidding or really want an answer.
Since I live "upstate" (Delaware county in the Catskills), it seems to me and my friends that live in the Big Apple, that anything north of Westchester is "upstate". Get on the New York Thruway and once you get past Suffern, you'll see it. Actually, you can't miss it.
I hope this helps.
DTS

anything north of Yonkers and George Washington Bridge is upstate to me.

Believe it or not, my Juinor High/Senior High School had Vermont students that came to New York for schooling.

So giving it to Vermont would be a fair agreement.

Nice, I'll tell the people in Inwood that.

Depends on the region your from.

NYC/Long Island people think it's - Anything above Poughkeepsie and they include EVERYWHERE. Albany to Canton Ny and from Albany to Buffalo and everything in between.

Hate to say it, but I'm sure the term was coined from a "city folk" point of view. Which makes the downstate definition accurate as it is a downstate term.

Some debate as to where the line of demarkation is, but I believe it is really a term to seperate New York State into two parts Upstate and NY Metro.

When I lived "upstate", I don't believe I ever even used the term.

Where is it? Who the hell cares?
I have another question though, where the hell does this thread belong?
Answer: I don't know for sure....but I KNOW it isn't in the paddock.

yeah i'm in upstate and that's anything north of Spring Valley or Yonkers.

To quote the great Nelson...

"Ha ha."

By the way, great link in your signature, you baby gorilla. ;)

I know the folk in Amsterdam say there's nothing west of Fonda worth while...but what do those city people know!

Outside of the Thruway exit in Amsterdam, what is Amsterdam worth? ;) Kidding, kidding.

No need to kid! :) to answer your question, not much! :eek:

They feel "west of Fonda" like NYC feels about upstate N.Y.

Didn't Amsterdam have a Moxie Factory a long time ago?

Not sure...but it was once known as the "rug capital of the world."

I do like that term.
I think I am going to have to start using it more often.

I went to St. Lawrence University. THAT is Upstate...less than miles from the Canadian border.

We used to refer to anything south of Albany as Downstate.

Im just a texas dumbo when it comes to NY but I would like to know what percent of the state population in within 75 mi of NY city? In my travels to BCfishing I was told that 90% of Canadas population is within 50 mi of the US border.

Jeff Foxworthy on Upstate NY

If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 36 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you're proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights each year because Saranac Lake is the coldest spot in the nation, you might live in Upstate New York.

If your local Dairy Queen is closed from September through May, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you instinctively walk like a penguin for six months out of the year, you might live in Upstate New York.

If your dad's suntan stops at a line curving around the middle of his forehead, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you have worn shorts and a parka at the same time, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you have had a lengthy telephone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you might live in Upstate New York.

YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE UPSTATE NEW YORKER WHEN:

1. "Vacation" means going South past Albany for the weekend.

2. You measure distance in hours.

3. You know several people who have hit a deer more than once.

4. You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day and back again.

5. You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard, without flinching.

6. You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.

7. Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow

8. You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter and road construction.

9. Your idea of creative landscaping is a statue of a deer next to your blue spruce.

10. Down South to you means Albany.

11. Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost.

12. You have more miles on your snow blower than your car.

13. You find 0 degrees "a little chilly."

14. You actually understand these jokes, and you forward them to all your Upstate New York friends.

I wonder where Tomy Soprano thinks upstate is...?

thats funny...cause I am in VT, and I find it easier to just say I am almost in Canada....they understand it more.