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robfla 04-30-2007 09:43 AM

Stormello
 
Kent D.seems pretty confident:


The Stormy Atlantic colt had his final Derby prep at Hollywood Park Sunday morning, breezing five furlongs in 1:00.80, and trainer Bill Currin labeled the move “the most perfect work he’s ever had.”

Currin, part-owner of Stormello with Alvin Eisman, was ecstatic about the workout, his exuberance matched by that of jockey Kent Desormeaux, who flew out to California to exercise his Derby mount.

“Kent got off the horse all bubbling over,” the trainer said, “really pumped up. There were some media people watching the work and Kent told them, ‘He will win the Kentucky Derby.’ They asked me how I felt, and I said ‘My jockey said it all for me.’”

Currin said today’s work was designed to teach Stormello a few lessons about rating behind horses and moving at the opportune time.

“I wanted to slow him down a little,” Currin said, “because I didn’t want him working :57 and change, like he’s done before. I wanted him to go at a good pace, but to get some schooling behind horses, on the rail and out in the middle of the track.

“Kent handled it perfectly. He was four or five lengths behind his workmate (the Currin-trained Eyesalrite) and on the inside for a quarter. Then Kent moved him to the outside, and Stormello took off, and kept going well past the wire. I got him the final eighth in 11 flat. Eyesalrite is a nice horse, but he’s no Stormello.”

Stormello’s move was eighth-best of 56 drills at the distance, while Eyesalrite was timed the five-eighths in 1:02.

The colt is scheduled to leave Hollywood Park at 5 a.m. Monday for a flight to Churchill Downs. The trainer will arrive later in the day.

Stormello, winner of the Hollywood Futurity in his final start as a 2-year-old, has run twice at Gulfstream Park this year, finishing second (beaten a nose by Scat Daddy) in the Fountain of Youth, and fourth in the Florida Derby.

blackthroatedwind 04-30-2007 09:44 AM

Yet another reason to toss him.....Kent " where's the finish line " Desormeaux likes him.

whodey17 04-30-2007 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yet another reason to toss him.....Kent " where's the finish line " Desormeaux likes him.

Kent should wear that nickname on his jockey pants in the Derby.

MisterB 04-30-2007 09:49 AM

Flat mile horse

robfla 04-30-2007 09:49 AM

ONLY a $2500 fine too... should have been more + days

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 10:09 AM

Only one of numerous hyperbolic statements we are likely to hear this week.
How many workouts will be "the best I've ever seen"?

Someone should make a list of them.

Sightseek 04-30-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Only one of numerous hyperbolic statements we are likely to hear this week.
How many workouts will be "the best I've ever seen"?

Someone should make a list of them.

but only Any Given Saturday has the magical resplendent dapples! :D

blackthroatedwind 04-30-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Someone should make a list of them.

Don't worry.

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
but only Any Given Saturday has the magical resplendent dapples! :D

What? I must have missed that one. That definitely makes the list.

blackthroatedwind 04-30-2007 10:12 AM

It is reminiscent of what Howard Cosell used to do when he was the broadcaster of the Derby. During Derby week he would visit every trainer and tell each of them that they were going to win the Derby. That way, no matter who won, during the post-race interview he could say " I told you that you would win this Derby."

Cajungator26 04-30-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It is reminiscent of what Howard Cosell used to do when he was the broadcaster of the Derby. During Derby week he would visit every trainer and tell each of them that they were going to win the Derby. That way, no matter who won, during the post-race interview he could say " I told you that you would win this Derby."

Classic! HA!!!

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 10:19 AM

This chatter about Stormello is probably as solid as what they said yesterday at Hollywood. On TVG they had mics on Currin and Desormeaux before the ninth race. They were both gushing about how great Freesgood was going to run, Kent was saying he would win, Currin was saying that they were going to make some money, blah, blah, blah. I was skeptical because I didn't think Freesgood was a router. Result? dead last finish. never a factor.

Sightseek 04-30-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
This chatter about Stormello is probably as solid as what they said yesterday at Hollywood. On TVG they had mics on Currin and Desormeaux before the ninth race. They were both gushing about how great Freesgood was going to run, Kent was saying he would win, Currin was saying that they were going to make some money, blah, blah, blah. I was skeptical because I didn't think Freesgood was a router. Result? dead last finish. never a factor.

I thought he trained the 4 that just got beat by a nose?

XIIPointStables 04-30-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I thought he trained the 4 that just got beat by a nose?

I believe that was Nick Hines.

Bigsmc 04-30-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
This chatter about Stormello is probably as solid as what they said yesterday at Hollywood. On TVG they had mics on Currin and Desormeaux before the ninth race. They were both gushing about how great Freesgood was going to run, Kent was saying he would win, Currin was saying that they were going to make some money, blah, blah, blah. I was skeptical because I didn't think Freesgood was a router. Result? dead last finish. never a factor.

That's why the mute button is on. I don't want my thought processes spoiled by the inane chatter and opinions of the hosts or the bs coming from the paddock. I saw them talking but didn't hear a thing....and didn't play the horse...to no avail.

Sightseek 04-30-2007 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables
I believe that was Nick Hines.

Thanks for the correction, I was watching without the PP's in front of me. :)

blackthroatedwind 04-30-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
That's why the mute button is on. I don't want my thought processes spoiled by the inane chatter and opinions of the hosts or the bs coming from the paddock. I saw them talking but didn't hear a thing....and didn't play the horse...to no avail.


It's just amazing the disinformation that TV hosts seem to think it is necessary to spew.

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's just amazing the disinformation that TV hosts seem to think it is necessary to spew.

Some of the TVG hosts are on a campaign now to show how relavent they are. they keep pointing out things like how successful the opening to the Hollywood meet has been and equating it to the fact that Hollywood is an exclusive TVG partner. How they are the worlds largest horse racing channel, etc.

After the race where Nick Hines horse was nosed for the win, Hines broke down sobbing while being interviewed. Todd Schrupp followed up that interview by taking a shot at message boards and the people who spend all day on them. Apparently Nick Hines must have been ridiculed on some message board. but it just irritates me when they do that. Its been more than one occaison when they go off on message boards like the people that frequent them are all a bunch of loser freaks.

They are coming across as desparate.

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
That's why the mute button is on. I don't want my thought processes spoiled by the inane chatter and opinions of the hosts or the bs coming from the paddock. I saw them talking but didn't hear a thing....and didn't play the horse...to no avail.

Ha!
I played C.T. Zee, Nick Hine's horse. I had him on top in tris and supers.
I was sobbing right along with Nick after the order of finish was posted.:(
Sadly I did not use his horse for second.

XIIPointStables 04-30-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Some of the TVG hosts are on a campaign now to show how relavent they are. they keep pointing out things like how successful the opening to the Hollywood meet has been and equating it to the fact that Hollywood is an exclusive TVG partner. How they are the worlds largest horse racing channel, etc.

After the race where Nick Hines horse was nosed for the win, Hines broke down sobbing while being interviewed. Todd Schrupp followed up that interview by taking a shot at message boards and the people who spend all day on them. Apparently Nick Hines must have been ridiculed on some message board. but it just irritates me when they do that. Its been more than one occaison when they go off on message boards like the people that frequent them are all a bunch of loser freaks.

They are coming across as desparate.

Man I could not agree with you any more. Todd seems so bitter (and maybe rightfully so) about not being there to cover the Derby. He ended the his broadcast with "I'm so depressed" yesterday and all this talk about how it doesn't feel like the Derby week, veiled references about the "other guys" in the business and how TVG is the best. It's a shame, I know, but don't complain on the air like that. Do your work, be a professional.

I loved TVG's coverage of the Derby with The Works and their great Derby pre-show Friday Night. But cut it out with woe is me act on the air and all the bravado about being the best, blah blah blah.

The highlight may have been when Ken Rudolph (either on his own or more likely directed by a producer) referred to the Derby as "the big race this upcoming weekend." Geez. </rant, thread hijack>

Sightseek 04-30-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Some of the TVG hosts are on a campaign now to show how relavent they are. they keep pointing out things like how successful the opening to the Hollywood meet has been and equating it to the fact that Hollywood is an exclusive TVG partner. How they are the worlds largest horse racing channel, etc.

After the race where Nick Hines horse was nosed for the win, Hines broke down sobbing while being interviewed. Todd Schrupp followed up that interview by taking a shot at message boards and the people who spend all day on them. Apparently Nick Hines must have been ridiculed on some message board. but it just irritates me when they do that. Its been more than one occaison when they go off on message boards like the people that frequent them are all a bunch of loser freaks.

They are coming across as desparate.

It's interesting that they took a shot at message boards seeing as ESPN seems to be putting out a better product each year and some of these improvements are the very things that have been mentioned on boards. Maybe it's coincidential or someone emailed them the suggestions, but TVG could learn something from them too...starting with less air time for Ken Rudolph. ;)

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
It's interesting that they took a shot at message boards seeing as ESPN seems to be putting out a better product each year and some of these improvements are the very things that have been mentioned on boards. Maybe it's coincidential or someone emailed them the suggestions, but TVG could learn something from them too...starting with less air time for Ken Rudolph. ;)

i am rather new to TVG, but why is this guy on the air? He is the worst.

blackthroatedwind 04-30-2007 10:58 AM

Obviously a lot of stuff on message boards is crap but that doesn't mean there is nothing of value on them. I have been helped a lot in doing my show by things people have said on different message boards. I guess it's just a matter of whether or not you are interested.

Sightseek 04-30-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Obviously a lot of stuff on message boards is crap but that doesn't mean there is nothing of value on them. I have been helped a lot in doing my show by things people have said on different message boards. I guess it's just a matter of whether or not you are interested.

But you didn't shave your goatee as someone suggested! ;)

blackthroatedwind 04-30-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
But you didn't shave your goatee as someone suggested! ;)


I have a very good friend that didn't know me before I grew my goatee ( it's been almost ten years ) and one day he was at my place and I was showing him a tape of a show I did back at NYRA in the mid 90s.

He honestly asked me who the guy was with Watchmaker.

ArlJim78 04-30-2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Obviously a lot of stuff on message boards is crap but that doesn't mean there is nothing of value on them. I have been helped a lot in doing my show by things people have said on different message boards. I guess it's just a matter of whether or not you are interested.

thats all true, we know all too well that its a mixed bag, and that you have to filter a lot. At the end of the day though I find lots of residual value in places like this one.

But to complain about message board banter, and message board people, while On-Air, only tells me that Todd Schrupp spends a lot of time reading message boards. In a way he is, as we say, "feeding the trolls" by showing irritation with something that was said on a message board. We all know that the best way to deal with that stuff is to ignore it.

tycharles01 04-30-2007 11:14 AM

Stormello LOL

Like has been said did anyone tell Kent that the race is a 1 1/4 not a 7f sprint?? before he said Stormello will win KY Derby

Downthestretch55 04-30-2007 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yet another reason to toss him.....Kent " where's the finish line " Desormeaux likes him.

Correct!
Kent will ride the race like this...
Tuck in to 3rd until the 5f pole.
Move him up...all out.
Relax on the lead.
Start the whip at the 7f.

Stand up at the 9f pole.

Finish 14th....then blame the tired gerbil.

Scurlogue Champ 04-30-2007 12:23 PM

This TVG/HRTV/CDI/NYRA stuff has gotten really really really gay....


It seems that no one is handling it with class. Disappointing to say the least.

Horse racing comes off as trashy a lot of the time.


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