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Rootdog1 04-26-2007 09:01 PM

4/27: Official Hollywood Carryover Thread
 
All hands on deck.......lets make it one hell of a Friday night in the hood at the Wood.

Let the stream of consciousness start here, and we can post the actual tickets either here or under Steve's thread (hopefully he is playing this thing - we need him).

whodey17 04-26-2007 09:02 PM

Picks for the Hollywood Carryover
 
Well this is what I have so far, but I am sure it will change.

Leg A - 3-5-6-10
Leg B - 2-4-6
Leg C - 2
Leg D - 1-2-3-4-7
Leg E - 2-3-4
Leg F - 10

UPDATED: $360 ticket.

whodey17 04-26-2007 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
All hands on deck.......lets make it one hell of a Friday night in the hood at the Wood.

Let the stream of consciousness start here, and we can post the actual tickets either here or under Steve's thread (hopefully he is playing this thing - we need him).

Heck yeah...this is what I have so far.

Well this is what I have so far, but I am sure it will change.

Leg A - 3-5-6-10
Leg B - 2-4-6
Leg C - 2
Leg D - 1-2-3-4-7
Leg E - 2-3-4
Leg F - 10

Scav 04-26-2007 09:16 PM

I am also looking at it.

Root, look at Bafferts horse in the first leg, that looks awful like a Baffert horse that is going to fly out of the gate and pop first out. Pegram/Baffert/Silver Charm/Friday Night....I get the feeling it is all systems go, an ultra gutsy single though in the first leg, I am considering it

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-26-2007 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
All hands on deck.......lets make it one hell of a Friday night in the hood at the Wood.

Let the stream of consciousness start here, and we can post the actual tickets either here or under Steve's thread (hopefully he is playing this thing - we need him).

my take

race 4

pp 9 forsman .no cheap buy in here
pp 6 silver stetson man baffert drby connections
pp 5 frank the if he takes to it he can win


race 5

pp 6 chanell my bell oniel is steves boy right back
pp 2 dixie talkamo on the cutback
pp 4 its anouther story speed tries to steal it


race 6

pp 2 mie alcjebio the single


race 7

pp 7 annie oak leafe
pp 5 awsome begining
pp 1 silber broke bad in last two

race 8

pp 7 heated rebel doing well in the a.m,
pp 4 st christion
pp 1 and 1a
pp 3 mr triester

race 9

pp 8 stompi n gia
pp 10 can do can do
pp 2 forever in the .. delgato on st up horse..

Scav 04-26-2007 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
my take

race 4

pp 9 forsman .no cheap buy in here
pp 6 silver stetson man baffert drby connections
pp 5 frank the if he takes to it he can win


race 5

pp 6 chanell my bell oniel is steves boy right back
pp 2 dixie talkamo on the cutback
pp 4 its anouther story speed tries to steal it


race 6

pp 2 mie alcjebio the single


race 7

pp 7 annie oak leafe
pp 5 awsome begining
pp 1 silber broke bad in last two

race 8

pp 7 heated rebel doing well in the a.m,
pp 4 st christion
pp 1 and 1a
pp 3 mr triester

race 9

pp 8 stompi n gia
pp 10 can do can do
pp 2 forever in the .. delgato on st up horse..

Gotta use the 7 in the 6th, I would love to single Frankel there but the 7 has lone speed written all over him

lemoncrush 04-26-2007 09:57 PM

Just started capping the card this morning, and still have a ways to go (love Friday nights at Hollywood).
Didn't realize there was a carryover, but it makes it a lot more interesting.

I'll be on periodically tomorrow, but look forward to playing the entire card from home tomorrow night.

Kasept 04-26-2007 10:06 PM

Will go through it when I return to Greenwich Friday around noon.. But at a glance:

4: 6-5/3-4
5: 8-4/6-3
6: 6-8/7-3 (Don't care for the 5-2 Frankel...)
7: 7-1/3-4
8: 2-7/3-8
9: 7-10/3-1

Rootdog1 04-27-2007 07:57 AM

a few comments.....anyone find a single yet? Is it Really Indian?

4th - Potts gets off the 5 to get on the outside horse who is a half to imperialisim. Mulhall said yesterday on TVG this one was pretty live. Looking at the works, of the firsters I like to see 6f drills which the 1 & 10 have. #2 Battle Too is a half to Battle Won. I do not like FRank the Barber, cut back and lack of his early pace leads me to toss.....Baffert could be live but not singling. I actually really like the 4, has speed and is cutting back - should be fit and running on the track where he trains.

Race 6 - Dont like the Frankel horse as well....Unlike Scavs, I see a pretty quick pace in here with the 5,6,8,9 all wanting to push it. LOVE the #2, but also have to use 5,8,10. Watch out for the 10 @ 15-1.

Race 7 - Concerned about the possibility of lack of pace, and the three I like need some to stop. #5 Awesome Beginning @ 8-1 is very interesting. 1,3,5 and maybe even the 6 who will be HUGE on the board.

Scav 04-27-2007 08:20 AM

If you do think their is speed in that race then Frankel is a single. He always wins with these it is just a matter when.

I am dumping into this. It looks like a ticket that will pay if you go wide enough. not a one ticketer but it could pay 40 or 50k.

regarding Muhall, is that this horse's first time starting? If so, she is an autotoss, muhall sucks with firsters, 2nd time start is when you catch them IMO

ArlJim78 04-27-2007 11:46 AM

two observations from last nights handicapping.

I think the fourth race is a very tricky read with several possiblities. I would go wide on that race.

In the sixth race I like the 3 horse enough to consider it a single. He has shown a good turn of foot and been knocking on the door at one mile beating eleven horses in both starts this year. Third start of form cycle with three works since the last race, gets in light cause of facing elders this time, I think the added distance helps him to get the job done. i think its all systems going for win tonight. I wouldn't touch the Frankel horse, don't like it at all.

Scav 04-27-2007 01:46 PM

the horse I like alot tonight is Tug O War in the 8th. First time O'Neil and working tremendously well for the return, pumps him all the way up to an allowance race

Also think in the 7th you could probably single the 3 with some confidence, there is nothing in that race, 3 might be the only horse that can actually finish the race

Rudeboyelvis 04-27-2007 02:00 PM

5 guys; in for a hundred bucks each.....
 
Two very nice singling opportunites offers us the ability to go deep in two legs (the first and the last, which are wide open with a ton of firsters - we'll need as many as we can get in there)

R4 - 5 Frank the Barber
10 Oscar the Mayor
2 Battle Too
3 Kinslar

R5 - 3 Chanel My Belle
4 It's Another Srory
10 Do it Topper Style

R6 - 2 Mi Arcobaleno

R7 - 3 What Me Win
5 Awesome Beginning
4 Blue Cay
7 Annie Oakleaf

R8 - 2 Real Indian

R9 - 3 Chestnut Chips
7 Fleur de Lune
8 Stompin Gia
9 Leith Code
10 Can Do Can Do

4x3x1x4x1x5 = 240 x $2 = 480.00

Scav 04-27-2007 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Two very nice singling opportunites offers us the ability to go deep in two legs (the first and the last, which are wide open with a ton of firsters - we'll need as many as we can get in there)

R4 - 5 Frank the Barber
10 Oscar the Mayor
2 Battle Too
3 Kinslar

R5 - 3 Chanel My Belle
4 It's Another Srory
10 Do it Topper Style

R6 - 2 Mi Arcobaleno

R7 - 3 What Me Win
5 Awesome Beginning
4 Blue Cay
7 Annie Oakleaf

R8 - 2 Real Indian

R9 - 3 Chestnut Chips
7 Fleur de Lune
8 Stompin Gia
9 Leith Code
10 Can Do Can Do

4x3x1x4x1x5 = 240 x $2 = 480.00

We are no where near alike in this sequence....

Scav 04-27-2007 02:16 PM

4: 6,8
5: 4
6: 3,7
7: 3
8: 3,8
9: 1,3,10

$48

I am still thinking about the 7th but I am thinking that is what will hold, would rather piss my money away at Hawthorne tomorrow.

Rootdog1 04-27-2007 02:28 PM

4. Tough Maiden race – I will probably wait to see who is getting bet on the board and might change these around if some of the firsters are live.
#1 Mystery Hunter 5-1 The March 29 drill BREEZING out of the gate seals the deal for me
#10 Oscar The Mayor 4-1 Gosh I hate using Mulhall at all, much less a first timer. Owner trainer combo is respectable though, and this one is training well.
#6 Silver Stetson Man 9-2 Not sold here….but use out of fear. No 6f drills and only the last two are the typical Baffert style
#4 Southern Man 12-1 Speedy, Fit and now on home track. Like better then Frank


5. To single or not single…..that is the question.
#6 Chanel My Belle 2-1 May have to single and pray. If she comes close to repeating last effort she crushes these. Love that one was at 6.5f and she can stay right off the #4 and take over turning for home. Bred for Turf/Dirt, which does well on All Weather.
#4 It’s Another Story 3-1 Speed of the speed, but not sure she can hold on stretching out from 5.5 to 6.5f
#7 Catblewbyu 12-1 Will be close enough to the first group and could be the only one left standing at the wire.
#3 Happy Celyna 6-1 This will go off closer to 10-1 and could plod along in time if the race falls apart with the 6,4,8 going psycho up front.


6. Most difficult race of the night – Tough One Part 1
#3 Legate 9-2
#5 Repetoire 8-1 Can stalk the quick pace and while lacks a real closing kick may just need to pick up the pieces.
#9 Fortunate Victory 15-1 His dam has dropped a turf winner and a stakes winner, and this one is fit and has the tactical speed to be close enough.
#8 Isipingo 6-1 Great first time out and poor effort going 9f last time. Espinoza gets off, not good, but I can’t help but think if Baze can keep this one off the pace and come with one run he may surprise.

7. Another Tough One Part 2

#3 Watch Me Win 5-2 Nice, but no lock
#5 Awesome Beginning 8-1 Back class and speed figs, and check out that April 21st drill……
#1 Silber 5-1 Will get a bigger price and not sure about this one. By Bertando, should take to the surface. Just hope the race sets up for her.
#6 So Happy Together 30-1 Interesting price play - never run this low and if regains form close to last spring she could really rock the boat.

8. Another Tough One Part 3

#2 Really Indian 3-1
#3 Mister T 6-1
#1 Entry
#4 St. Chrisjon


9. Another Tough One Part 4

#8 Stompin Gia 7-2 scratched at SA a bit back to race on the all weather here
#3 Chestnut Chips 15-1 Sneaky Trainer and LOVE the work pattern.
#7 Fleur De Lune 4-1 6yr old will love the added dist and will be around late
#9 Leith Code 12-1



Ticket (awaiting changes)
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5)
6)
7)
8)
9)

Scav 04-27-2007 02:44 PM

I am on the 8 in the 4th also now.....That being said, I am seriously considering singling the 4 horse in the 5th race. Lone speed with a good speed jock that knows how to rate, sometimes.

Essentially, I have no idea what I am doing yet

Rootdog1 04-27-2007 02:49 PM

Gryder is OFF all mounts tonight. I think Mig picked up the mount on the 4 horse in the 5th...

lemoncrush 04-27-2007 03:19 PM

To me, the pick 6 is a bit too challenging to dig into my pockets, but I'll be playing the rest of the card.

One horse I thought might be live longshot is the 3 horse, Happy Celyna in the 5th.
Had a couple tough trips down the hill at Santa Anita, and now freshens up to run back on the cushion track where she broke her maiden last fall (closing to beat 12 other opponents).

Should be lots of plenty of pace to give her the opportunity for a similar trip.
Not awed by the connections, but thought she deserved a second look.

Rudeboyelvis 04-27-2007 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
We are no where near alike in this sequence....

Yeah.....probably jumped the gun.....the more I look at this, the more I'm rethinking those singles; especially the 2 in the 8th - gonna wait for scratches and may reasess the sicha-tation :D

Edit: And tossing the 10 in the 4th in favor of the 1

Coach Pants 04-27-2007 06:52 PM

Wow this was a doozy.

1,6,10
6,7
5
3,5
3
2,7

Good luck!

ArlJim78 04-27-2007 07:08 PM

its too tough for me to play,

R4 1 3 5 6 8 10
R5 6 8
R6 3
R7 3 4
R8 1 2 4
R9 1 7

i'll try pk3's and pk4's instead.

Scav 04-27-2007 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
its too tough for me to play,

R4 1 3 5 6 8 10
R5 6 8
R6 3
R7 3 4
R8 1 2 4
R9 1 7

i'll try pk3's and pk4's instead.

I am going up to Trackside at like 8:30 if you want to chill and pound some beers with BD Sr.

ArlJim78 04-27-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I am going up to Trackside at like 8:30 if you want to chill and pound some beers with BD Sr.

not a bad idea, if i get motivated i might head over there.
you're not going to be screaming "come on son!!" are you?:)

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-27-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I am going up to Trackside at like 8:30 if you want to chill and pound some beers with BD Sr.

bill downs sr.. ,, the legend..keep him going with beers and he will tell you storys that are un real.. no really he will bs you in a funny way..great guy

Scav 04-27-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
not a bad idea, if i get motivated i might head over there.
you're not going to be screaming "come on son!!" are you?:)

I sure am, I am leaving in 20 and hoping the seat to the left of BD Sr is open....

COME ON MY SON!!!!

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-27-2007 07:58 PM

your not allowed to say that and bd will be long gone..by now..

Scav 04-27-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
your not allowed to say that and bd will be long gone..by now..

He was up there at like 9:30 like three nights ago watching Evageline, I asked him if he was ok

ARyan 04-27-2007 08:10 PM

Here is my crack at this card;

Race 1
#2
#3
#4

Race 2

#2

$2 PK3 2/1,3,4/1,2,6,8 = $24.
PAYS $163.80


Race 3

#1
#3
#4

Race 4

#1
#2
#6
#8

Race 5

#4
#6
#8

Race 6

#2
#3
#4
#8
#9

$1 PK4 2,3,4,8,9 / 3,4,5 / 2 / 1,7,9,10 = $60

Race 7

#3
#4
#5

Race 8

#1
#2
#8

Race 9

#1
#7
#9
#10


That is after the first glance. Going to go over it again and then post my tickets.

Rudeboyelvis 04-27-2007 08:17 PM

This one's making me old :D

Thought Frankel was an easy single in the 6th, but I now can't get by the 3,6 or the 8....

Coach Pants 04-27-2007 08:19 PM

Early Pick 4
2
1,2,4
2,4
1,2,5,6,10

lemoncrush 04-27-2007 08:29 PM

playing a small pk 4 to get warmed up.

1) 2
2) 2
3) 1,2,4
4) 1,2,4,6,8

$15

plus
Race 1 $10 wp on #2

ARyan 04-27-2007 08:34 PM

Anyone know how well J. Paco Gonzalez/Espinoza do together?

Just find it interesting that Victor takes the mount late, in the night cap. Looking for any angle on this card.

Rudeboyelvis 04-27-2007 08:35 PM

any one have the scratches for tonight?

Gaines2b 04-27-2007 08:47 PM

Changes
 
Carryover
Races 4-9

$150,000 Guaranteed Pick Four
Presented by TVG
Races 6-9

PROGRAM CHANGES

Race 1:
No Program Changes

Race 2:
Jockey - #2 Richard Migliore

Race 3:
No Program Changes

Race 4:
Sex - #10 is a cryptorchid

Race 5:
Jockey - #4 Richard Migliore

Race 6:
Jockey - #5 Jose Valdivia, Jr.

Race 7:
Jockey - #4 Richard Migliore

Race 8:
Jockey - #8 Jon Court

Race 9:
Jockey - #1 Victor Espinoza

ArlJim78 04-27-2007 08:48 PM

going up to trackside to meet scavs so we can combine forces and take down this pk6. sure to be comediness.

good luck all.

aj OUT

Rootdog1 04-27-2007 09:05 PM

early wagers

1)6
2)1,2,5,6
3)1,4,5
$12

$5 bet
1)6
2)5
3)1,4
$10


1)3,6
2)2,5
3)1,4
4)1,4,10
$24

Rootdog1 04-27-2007 09:09 PM

well that is a bad start.....guess speed is holding so far....wow that was a bad race.

lemoncrush 04-27-2007 09:09 PM

I guess speed is holding ;)
5 made sense, but those connections scared me off.
Who the hell is Ron Sticka?

Rootdog1 04-27-2007 09:12 PM

roll it over

2)2,5
3)1,4,5
4)1,4,10,2


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