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VOL JACK 04-26-2007 06:36 PM

I Hate Kent D.
 
I swear it is a good thing I was not @ Kee. I would of been in the paddock after the 3rd. and 5th. race when he stood up on those mounts. Esp. in the 3rd. let's just say him or i would've of gotten an ass whoppin'.

timmgirvan 04-26-2007 06:49 PM

For a jockey with his experience...it is inexcusable!

Getaway 04-26-2007 06:51 PM

Now that was funny...he obviously misjudged where the line was, but it is still not excusable. What a joke!

MaTH716 04-26-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I swear it is a good thing I was not @ Kee. I would of been in the paddock after the 3rd. and 5th. race when he stood up on those mounts. Esp. in the 3rd. let's just say him or i would've of gotten an ass whoppin'.

I saw the 3rd race. Did he do the same thing in the 5th?

Indian Charlie 04-26-2007 07:21 PM

ask him if he was having kotashaan flashbacks.

not only did he do it on kotashaan in japan, i seem to recall he did that once in a south american race as well.

he's really not a very bright man

timmgirvan 04-26-2007 07:55 PM

I think he did it on Real Quiet also,didn't he?

fpsoxfan 04-26-2007 08:07 PM

Where can I see the replay?? I'd like to see the race.

Bobby Fischer 04-26-2007 08:08 PM

and then the a-hole wins the feature , (which he had no business winning),by running a closer near the pace.

fpsoxfan 04-26-2007 08:41 PM

Found it....WOW....very strange...I usually stick up for the guy too,

Benny Leger 04-26-2007 09:17 PM

I had $ across on Kent's mount in the third today at KEE. He definitely cost me the win price (7-1). I not sure if he misjudged the wire. I think E. T. stood up on K. Macs horse first, (1st time starter) thinking he could'nt get there for the win. Then Kent D. thinking he was home free stood up about 60 yards from the wire. E.T.'s horse then proceeded to out gallop Kent to the wire by a nose. If I owned that horse Kent D. would'nt be gettin Paid!!!

Benny Leger 04-26-2007 09:24 PM

It kinda reminded me of the world series game ('72 i think) when the A's gave the impression that they were going to go ahead and intentionally walk Johnny Bench. After running the count to 3 balls and 2 strikes the catcher stood up and put out his right arm and the pitcher for the A's proceeded to gut the plate with the next pitch catching Bench off guard and striking him out. I'm a big Reds fan, but I have to admit it was funny after the shock wore off.

brianwspencer 04-26-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not exactly. Trujillo has never ridden there before and misjudged the line. He pulled up because he thought they had crossed it already. He was ahead of Kent's horse when this was done. Kent D, being Kent D decided to do the same thing, although he's ridden there all meet. Apparently Kent D apologized to the fans after the stake (which he won) for what he did.


I could not agree more -- Kent couldn't have pulled up like that thinking he had it in the bag. That was far more pulled up than a confident hand ride to the wire that we would see if a jock thought he had it in the bag.

brianwspencer 04-26-2007 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not exactly. Trujillo has never ridden there before and misjudged the line. He pulled up because he thought they had crossed it already. He was ahead of Kent's horse when this was done. Kent D, being Kent D decided to do the same thing, although he's ridden there all meet. Apparently Kent D apologized to the fans after the stake (which he won) for what he did.

ps, from the Keeneland website:

Kent Desormeaux (winning rider):

On misjudging the finish in the third race and finishing second:

“I’d have to be retarded not to apologize to the fans. I messed up. I chose the wrong (finish) line to stand up at. I’m so apologetic to the fans, but this kind of eases the pain a little bit.”

brianwspencer 04-26-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Thinking of making this my new signature. Whose pain did he ease, his own? What about the people that needed him in the third? Had he realized where the line was, like he should he could have capitalized on Trujillo's mistake, instead of coming off even worse than Trujillo. It's why I can't stand the guy.

Am I wrong in thinking that outside of the mistake, Trujillo had him anyway -- that Elvis had the better horse today but that Kent should have capitalized on that mistake?

saucon17 04-26-2007 09:50 PM

Doesn't Keeneland still put up the big red circle (looks like a Bulls-eye). on a post left of finish line to show what finish line is in use for that race. Or these two goofs are color blind to the color of red.

Scav 04-26-2007 09:59 PM

So many people trying to diss my guy...

How many times have you heard a jock apologize for a ride TO THE PUBLIC???

How about 1 out of 100. **** happens, which is why it is gambling, and not considering investing. It is like when the dealer is showing a 6 and goes and pulls 21 on your ass, **** happens

LONG LIVE KENT DESORMEAUX

The Indomitable DrugS 04-26-2007 10:10 PM

Does anyone else feel like Stephen Hawking all of a sudden?

ArlJim78 04-26-2007 10:12 PM

Hawking - Smawking
I'm working on a new and improved string theory as we speak.

saucon17 04-26-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
So many people trying to diss my guy...

How many times have you heard a jock apologize for a ride TO THE PUBLIC???

How about 1 out of 100. **** happens, which is why it is gambling, and not considering investing. It is like when the dealer is showing a 6 and goes and pulls 21 on your ass, **** happens

LONG LIVE KENT DESORMEAUX

You don't see Laviolette misjudging finish lines. :D

VOL JACK 04-26-2007 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
So many people trying to diss my guy...

How many times have you heard a jock apologize for a ride TO THE PUBLIC???

How about 1 out of 100. **** happens, which is why it is gambling, and not considering investing. It is like when the dealer is showing a 6 and goes and pulls 21 on your ass, **** happens

LONG LIVE KENT DESORMEAUX

Get Lost, U didn't bet the race of course. Terrible ride after terrible ride then a good ride at long odds. A usual Kent D. day!

PPerfectfan 04-26-2007 11:31 PM

Oh gee whiz, he said he was sorry, but then said that the stake win makes up for it???? Not to the owner/trainer/bettors of the horse he screwed up on. The stakes win made up for HIM and that is all he cares about. Hell after the Kotashan race he pouted to everyone and anyone who would listen how it was going to affect his earnings, his jock standings, his this, his that. To hell with the fact that he screwed the owners,trainers,help/bettors out of a multi million dollar purse. He has been on my Sh*t list since then. I pull for all the jocks from here, except him. Not that he cares, but it makes me feel better. :D

10 pnt move up 04-27-2007 12:41 AM

I am no kent d fan but that seemed like an honest mistake, it was the other rider who stood up and I think he just followed suite. some action probably needs to be taken to protect the public. there is alot worse stuff that goes on then that honest mistake.

Bigsmc 04-27-2007 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
I am no kent d fan but that seemed like an honest mistake, it was the other rider who stood up and I think he just followed suite. some action probably needs to be taken to protect the public. there is alot worse stuff that goes on then that honest mistake.

You are correct. In Hooves selection thread right after the race, I called it a monkey see-monkey do move by KD. Doesn't excuse it though.

Scavs is just trying to wind us up. He would've been going ballistic if he had done one of his classic load ups on this horse.

Answering a previous poster, the last time I was at Keeneland (about 3yrs ago), yes, they were moving the red target circle when they switched from a sprint to a route.

goingtothewhip 04-27-2007 04:25 AM

"monkey see, monkey do"- True fact. should be in the trip notes...

Stay tuned for tmrw's apology from dsmx that reads something to the effect ' i didn't mean it like that....i love retards, i have friends that are, etc. ' Also true.

brockguy 04-27-2007 05:14 AM

does he not get banned for doing something like misjudging the finish line and not riding out to the line? Can the stewards do that? In Britain, its an automatic 21 day holiday and it's alot worse in Asia and Australia..

Scav 04-27-2007 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Come on Scavs, how would you feel if you bet that horse? Guy even admitted he phucked up. I guess it's cool he admitted it, but it doesn't excuse it. I can at least kind of excuse Trujillo for not ever riding there, although he should have been more prepared. Trust me, this isn't an isolated incident with this guy. Your analogy is completely wrong. Kent cost this horse the win, no one else did.

Dude, I would be pissed if I bet the horse, I won't deny that but dude, **** happens is what I am trying to say.

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Originally Posted by saucon17
You don't see Laviolette misjudging finish lines.

Do I even have to respond to such an easy response. This is because he always is running 5th, he hasn't seen the Arlington finish line in like three years in an allowance race.

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
You are correct. In Hooves selection thread right after the race, I called it a monkey see-monkey do move by KD. Doesn't excuse it though.

Scavs is just trying to wind us up. He would've been going ballistic if he had done one of his classic load ups on this horse.

I would have but again, 9 times out of 10 I get a good ride out of this guy, a perfect example was this past Sunday on McPeek's Glitterman horse, this horse wanted to go touch the toteboard a couple times and almost tossed Kent three times, but that didn't happen because he is Kent Desormeaux, Scav's go to jockey when needs to get out

I tend not to get pissed at rides that much unless it is when they go a bizillion wide and have no shot. Which is why I never bet Albarado, or at least try not to.

FYI, another tidbit I will hide in this thread, the Laviolette off theory will be in full affect at Arlington in the opening weeks, allocate tons of money towards these and you will have 5 tons of money afterward the first month. :)

saucon17 04-27-2007 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
FYI, another tidbit I will hide in this thread, the Laviolette off theory will be in full affect at Arlington in the opening weeks, allocate tons of money towards these and you will have 5 tons of money afterward the first month. :)

So I need to buy a dump truck to haul all this money to the bank.

Downthestretch55 04-27-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
I think he did it on Real Quiet also,didn't he?

timm,
Kent moved Real Quiet way too soon in the Belmont. He proved that he has no "track sense". Blew a triple crown by a nose.
I never bet anything Kent rides. NEVER!

Swale84 04-27-2007 12:51 PM

If they are not in a finish for the win position there are too many jocks not riding their horses out. Time after time when the photo finish picture is posted you will see jocks standing up before the wire.

It's time the stewards starting giving days or fines, maybe that will get their attention

JJP 04-27-2007 10:50 PM

http://www.indiancharlie.com/newsletter042807.html

nice cartoon showing Kent's "exploits".


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