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2 Dollar Bill 04-24-2007 09:17 AM

Will this be the year >> Triple Crown ?
 
Just want to throw this out two weeks before the Derby. Does anyone think any of these Three Year Old's have a chance ? I get the feeling that as each year goes, the triple crown is a thing of the past .

SniperSB23 04-24-2007 09:21 AM

It will happen again but this year is about as unlikely as it gets for it to happen. There are very few horses this year conditioned to run back in the Preakness two weeks later and the few that are conditioned aren't going to win the Derby anyways.

Mortimer 04-24-2007 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
It will happen again but this year is about as unlikely as it gets for it to happen. There are very few horses this year conditioned to run back in the Preakness two weeks later and the few that are conditioned aren't going to win the Derby anyways.




What di BURP.

Oh excuse me.





What did he say?

lemoncrush 04-24-2007 09:23 AM

No chance this year.
I bet we have a different winner in each race, just like last year.
Especially with all the horses passing on the derby and pointing towards the preakness

2 Dollar Bill 04-24-2007 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
No chance this year.
I bet we have a different winner in each race, just like last year.
Especially with all the horses passing on the derby and pointing towards the preakness

Different horses... but same number [ like last year ] ? ;)

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-24-2007 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
Just want to throw this out two weeks before the Derby. Does anyone think any of these Three Year Old's have a chance ? I get the feeling that as each year goes, the triple crown is a thing of the past .

Same odds as the "the Raiders" winning the Super Bowl! :D

LOL...just kidding partner :)

somerfrost 04-24-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Same odds as the "the Raiders" winning the Super Bowl! :D

LOL...just kidding partner :)

The last time I thought there was a good chance going into the Derby...that would have been when I was sky high on Point Given...we know how that worked out. I liked Smarty alot but that was more heart than brain...then again, he came damn close. Last year I thought AFTER the Derby we had a great chance...what I'm saying is that it changes quickly. A horse may run a super race in the Derby and TC fever will erupt once more, or a lightly regarded horse like Real Quiet will win and everybody will say "no way" but then...

Withers 04-24-2007 02:48 PM

I'm kind of doubtful about our TC chances this year. Each decade since Seattle seems to have given about three shots at it, and this decade, we've already had them: War Emblem, Funny Cide, Smarty Jones. Add to that the light conditioning that everyone has had (no Afleet Alex's in this year's field) and I think we're due for a wait. Super horse, where are you?

GPK 04-24-2007 02:58 PM

Triple Crown??

Sh*t...I would be surprised if we had a horse run in all 3 legs.

avance2000 04-24-2007 03:03 PM

once smart people come along and finally fix the stupid triple crown series by putting 8 weeks between each of the triple crown races, running them all at 8.5 furlongs, putting all of the races on the tires, and limiting the fields to only storm cats.....we'll have a tc winner.
until then it seems unlikely

slotdirt 04-24-2007 03:06 PM

Why only Storm Cats? When was the last time he had a Derby winner?

Dunbar 04-24-2007 03:20 PM

It often looks a lot more likely AFTER the Derby than before.

--Dunbar

Thunder Gulch 04-24-2007 03:59 PM

I don't see any of these being that good, but then again, War Emblem and Charismatic made runs at the TC because the entire crop wasn't that fast.

Bernardini 04-24-2007 04:05 PM

I agree with most of the posts on this topic, unlikely that we'll see TC this years (let alone if any one horse runs all three races)

philcski 04-24-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Why only Storm Cats? When was the last time he had a Derby winner?


He's never had a Triple Crown race win, period.

Thunder Gulch 04-24-2007 04:28 PM

Tobasco Cat won the last two legs (I think)

philcski 04-24-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Tobasco Cat won the last two legs (I think)

My error, he won the Preakness and Belmont. That was the only one, he's never had a Derby winner.

King Glorious 04-24-2007 04:56 PM

Curlin or Circular Quay wins the Derby while the other runs second. Now that we've established that much, let's examine the possibilities of a TC winner.

If Curlin wins the Derby:
He'll come back and dominate the Preakness as CQ sits out the race. In the Belmont, Curlin is upset, either by CQ or a 30/1 (or more) longshot.

If CQ wins the Derby:
He'll come back and dominate the Preakness as Curlin sits out the race. In the Belmont, CQ is upset by a longshot, either Tiago or that McGaughey horse that ran second in the Wood.

No TC winner this year.

TheSpyder 04-24-2007 05:55 PM

Far more likely we'll have a triple crown number repeat 8-8-8. I'm really leaning towards 3-3-3. I've been following this number all season long and it looks very strong.

Spyder from SC

my miss storm cat 04-24-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Great Hunter or Zanjero wins the Derby while the other runs second. Now that we've established that much, let's examine the possibilities of a TC winner.
.

... fixed it for you. :p

Back to the original question? No chance this year..... what GPK said.

Cajungator26 04-24-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
... fixed it for you. :p

Back to the original question? No chance this year..... what GPK said.

You like Zanjero too? He's as about as game as any of the contenders... that's for sure.

Cajungator26 04-24-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Really? I'm not seeing it. I know he was close in the Bluegrass, but in reality, that race aside. Which who knows what to make of it, he really hasn't run a race yet that shows he can be competitive to some of the leading contenders. I suppose he could crack the top ten, but that's the limit IMO.

He seems to try hard... not saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but at least he's got some guts. You know?

GPK 04-24-2007 07:27 PM

Honestly....I will be curious to see if any horse runs all 3 legs this year.

my miss storm cat 04-24-2007 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
You like Zanjero too? He's as about as game as any of the contenders... that's for sure.

Dahlink! WE are the founders of the bandwagon. :D

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=zanjero

You wanna sing Memories or shall I? :p

2 Dollar Bill 04-25-2007 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Far more likely we'll have a triple crown number repeat 8-8-8. I'm really leaning towards 3-3-3. I've been following this number all season long and it looks very strong.

Spyder from SC

Hey Spyder,
You may want to back that up with 6 - 6- 6 !! [ the devil made me do it ! ]

philcski 04-25-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Honestly....I will be curious to see if any horse runs all 3 legs this year.

The Teuf will run in all three if he gets in the Derby. Besides that... I doubt it!

Withers 04-25-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Somebody better get a hold of the triple crown committee and of the connections pointing to the races. Tell everyone to forget about racing, this is all we need to know.

I don't know, if Curlin or CQ does win the derby, this scenario sounds pretty on the mark to me. I buy it, at least in Curlin's case. I'm less sure CQ will be near the winner's circle, famous last words no doubt...

ShadowRoll 04-25-2007 04:08 PM

Agree that it's unlikely. But if Curlin turns out to be a super freak...there'll be a bunch of posts saying it was obvious in hindsight.

horseofcourse 04-25-2007 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Far more likely we'll have a triple crown number repeat 8-8-8. I'm really leaning towards 3-3-3. I've been following this number all season long and it looks very strong.

Spyder from SC

In one of the greatest series of upsets in history....1-1-1 will win the triple crown overcoming the dreaded Ky Derby rail paranoia. I'm basing this on the number 1 hot streak at the BC last year. I think number 1 will take number 3 this year. (if Sedgefield gets post 1, I may be in trouble here!)

2 Dollar Bill 04-25-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
In one of the greatest series of upsets in history....1-1-1 will win the triple crown overcoming the dreaded Ky Derby rail paranoia. I'm basing this on the number 1 hot streak at the BC last year. I think number 1 will take number 3 this year. (if Sedgefield gets post 1, I may be in trouble here!)


Is this the Rail Bias THEORY ?

byalip 04-25-2007 05:33 PM

Madame Coobala's crystal ball has focused on Curlin since before the Rebel. His image has become bigger and stronger. This horse romped, won for fun, led, rated...basically anything he was asked to do and then some.

Plus, Madame Coobala deems the competition a bunch of donkeys. That always helps.

2 Dollar Bill 05-15-2007 09:38 AM

Now that we got one down and two to go..... Time to revisit this thread
ANY new comments now ? :p

2 Dollar Bill 05-15-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
Is this the Rail Bias THEORY ?

or the BO-RAIL bias ?

hi_im_god 05-15-2007 10:33 AM

i did my part to help the sport by laying $200 to win $50 that there will not be a triple crown winner.

ss fans can thank me later.

ShadowRoll 05-15-2007 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
Now that we got one down and two to go..... Time to revisit this thread
ANY new comments now ? :p

I've thought about this pretty hard and, after much deliberation, I've come to the conclusion that Curlin will not win the Triple Crown.


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