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XIIPointStables 04-16-2007 08:15 PM

Pletcher has his mounts set for the Derby
 
Thought this deserved some attention...

Gomez to ride Any GivenSaturday in Kentucky Derby
by Jeff Lowe

Trainer Todd Pletcher has his jockey plans in place for the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (G1), with Garrett Gomez taking the call on Any Given Saturday.

Edgar Prado will remain on Scat Daddy after guiding the colt to a victory in the Florida Derby (G1) when regular jockey John Velazquez was out of town for the Dubai World Cup (UAE-G1) program.

Velazquez will ride Louisiana Derby (G2) winner Circular Quay in the Kentucky Derby, Pletcher said on Monday.

Velazquez also has been the regular rider for Any Given Saturday, who finished third in the Wood Memorial Stakes (G1) on April 7 at Aqueduct.

Fernando Jara will stay on Illinois Derby (G2) winner Cowtown Cat and Ramon Dominguez will ride Sam P., the third-place finisher in the Santa Anita Derby (G1).


http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...cky-Derby.aspx

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:16 PM

Awesome news... couldn't be happier about Prado staying up on Scat Daddy. :cool:

ARyan 04-16-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Awesome news... couldn't be happier about Prado staying up on Scat Daddy. :cool:

Too bad Edgar won't get back to back Derby wins now. ;)

Coach Pants 04-16-2007 08:18 PM

Here's to hoping they all run out of the money.

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
Too bad Edgar won't get back to back Derby wins now. ;)

We'll see about that. ;)

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-16-2007 08:33 PM

What good jocks are left for the rest of the field???
Looks like Pletcher got the best ones!

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Here's to hoping they all run out of the money.

not only will they all run out of the money, but none of them will make the super...

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
not only will they all run out of the money, but none of them will make the super...

LMFAO!!! Thanks for the laugh tonight. I appreciate it.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
What good jocks are left for the rest of the field???
Looks like Pletcher got the best ones!

julian l
rafeal b
corny v
corey n
kent d
MIKE S
calvin b
eibar c
eddie c
jeremy r

im sure there are alot more capable jocks then jara and dominguez

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
LMFAO!!! Thanks for the laugh tonight. I appreciate it.

um.... its not intended to be funny, and look back.... i have been saying that for 2 months, even before ravel was injured.

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
um.... its not intended to be funny, and look back.... i have been saying that for 2 months, even before ravel was injured.

It is funny. You're nuts. He will have 4-5 horses entered... that's 20-25% of the field. You're saying that not ONE will be in the super? Right.

Scat Daddy
Any Given Saturday
Circular Quay
Cowtown Cat

Oh yeah, Sam P.

hockey2315 04-16-2007 08:43 PM

I'm glad Johnny V. is off of AGS. . . I respect him as a jock but I just don't think him and AGS have meshed well. . .

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
It is funny. You're nuts.

theres nothing funny about it, everyone of his horses have major major faults, everyone knows this. they will all be overbet and none of them will run good enough to make the super

JJP 04-16-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
julian l
rafeal b
corny v
corey n
kent d
MIKE S
calvin b
eibar c
eddie c
jeremy r

im sure there are alot more capable jocks then jara and dominguez

Jeremy Roenick??

And Mike S???? You can't be referring to Mike "take em wide" Smith, can you?

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
It is funny. You're nuts. He will have 4-5 horses entered... that's 20-25% of the field. You're saying that not ONE will be in the super? Right.

Scat Daddy
Any Given Saturday
Circular Quay
Cowtown Cat

yes i am saying that
this group is so wide open, i would not be suprised if he dosent have a horse finish in the top 6, its wide open/ I like all of them more then anything pletcher is running

Nobiz
Hard Spun
Street Sense
Tiago
Great Hunter
Curlin
Dominican
Chelokee

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
Jeremy Roenick??

And Mike S???? You can't be referring to Mike "take em wide" Smith, can you?


lololol Jeremy Rose, he did take 2/3 of the triple crown not to long ago
and he dominates laurel, i'd rather have him over ramon or fernando

cloud_break 04-16-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
theres nothing funny about it, everyone of his horses have major major faults, everyone knows this. they will all be overbet and none of them will run good enough to make the super

Its not out of the realm of possibilities, just ask Nick Zito.

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
theres nothing funny about it, everyone of his horses have major major faults, everyone knows this. they will all be overbet and none of them will run good enough to make the super

Major faults? I'm only concerned about one listed. The other 4 probably have a legit shot. It's not like we're loaded down with talent here...

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
Jeremy Roenick??

And Mike S???? You can't be referring to Mike "take em wide" Smith, can you?

And yes i am, hes riding alot better latley cost to cost hes getting it done.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Major faults? I'm only concerned about one listed. The other 4 probably have a legit shot. It's not like we're loaded down with talent here...

who is the 1, i will tell you why i dislike him

NTamm1215 04-16-2007 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
theres nothing funny about it, everyone of his horses have major major faults, everyone knows this. they will all be overbet and none of them will run good enough to make the super

You've also been touting two horses who also have "major major faults" so I'd say the Derby picture is pretty wide-open. I wonder sometimes, though, what you feel you might gain from re-iterating that Pletcher won't even get in the super?

NT

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
who is the 1, i will tell you why i dislike him

I'm concerned about Circular Quay. You've made it plainly clear you don't like Pletcher's horses and that's your perogative. It's ludicrous for you to 'guarantee' that none of them will make the super, though. Think about that... he'll probably have 25% of the field and you don't think one of them will make the superfecta?

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-16-2007 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
julian l
rafeal b
corny v
corey n
kent d
MIKE S
calvin b
eibar c
eddie c
jeremy r

im sure there are alot more capable jocks then jara and dominguez

Don't think ANY are quite as good as Pletcher's boys...wish you luck in the Derby,
but I'll take any of Pletcher's trainees over NoBiz...he won't be in my top "5" on Derby day!

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
You've also been touting two horses who also have "major major faults" so I'd say the Derby picture is pretty wide-open. I wonder sometimes, though, what you feel you might gain from re-iterating that Pletcher won't even get in the super?

NT

Gain ? im not trying to gain anything its my opinion and i feel very strongly about it

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Sorry, in trying to be funny missed what was said. Carry on.

That would be Swinetown Pig to you. LMAO :p

saucon17 04-16-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
lololol Jeremy Rose, he did take 2/3 of the triple crown not to long ago and he dominates laurel, i'd rather have him over ramon or fernando

I agree I would take Rose over Jara, but never over R Dominguez.
The only jockey I would chose over RD is Prado. In the latest
Thoroughbred Times #1 ranked jockey last year was RD. I guess
Pletcher doesn't know what he is doing with putting RD on Sam P.

NTamm1215 04-16-2007 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
Gain ? im not trying to gain anything its my opinion and i feel very strongly about it

Sorry, I figured you had to have had something to gain with the amount of times you posted it.

NT

VOL JACK 04-16-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
I'm glad Johnny V. is off of AGS. . . I respect him as a jock but I just don't think him and AGS have meshed well. . .

I couldn't agree more! Maybe I am dead wrong ???? JV. However, I think Gomez style fits this horse. plus it will help AGS odds quite a bit with Todd's main man getting off.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I agree I would take Rose over Jara, but never over R Dominguez.
The only jockey I would chose over RD is Prado. In the latest
Thoroughbred Times #1 ranked jockey last year was RD. I guess
Pletcher doesn't know what he is doing with putting RD on Sam P.

i would take at least 5 guys over ramon, he tends to get his horses into trouble... rose is possibly the most underated jockey in the game

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-16-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
theres nothing funny about it, everyone of his horses have major major faults, everyone knows this. they will all be overbet and none of them will run good enough to make the super

I doubt that Todd runners will be the top "3" betting interest, BUT with that said;
I rather bet his runners than NoBiz or Curlin at a short price, which those two will be!

POINTGIVEN1985 04-16-2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I doubt that Todd runners will be the top "3" betting interest, BUT with that said;
I rather bet his runners than NoBiz or Curlin at a short price, which those two will be!

i will take anything over 4-1 on nobiz, and since he will most likely be 6 or 7-1 i will be betting like crazy on him

The Indomitable DrugS 04-16-2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
Gain ? im not trying to gain anything its my opinion and i feel very strongly about it

You're in search of the all-mighty board cred.

While your enthusiasm is admirable.....and it's certainly ok to have a lot of opinions and express them all---but perhaps, when you're on here, you might want to try reading a little more and posting a little less. Just a suggestion.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-16-2007 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i will take anything over 4-1 on nobiz, and since he will most likely be 6 or 7-1 i will be betting like crazy on him

If the Derby was run today...the first three betting interest would be;
Street Sense - Curlin - NoBiz Like Shozbiz
What if, NoBiz is least than 4-1? Will you not bet him hard???

Java Gold 04-16-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
theres nothing funny about it, everyone of his horses have major major faults, everyone knows this. they will all be overbet and none of them will run good enough to make the super

Please tell us the fault with Scat Daddy. Your priceless...

Java OUT

lemoncrush 04-16-2007 09:08 PM

Well, if you're a fan of Circular Quay then this news has to make you feel better (and the 6F work from Sunday).
If CQ was iffy and/or having issues, there's no way Johnny V would be announced as the jockey on him.

And I think CQ, Scat Daddy and AGS all have a chance to hit the board on May 5th.

ArlJim78 04-16-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i will take anything over 4-1 on nobiz, and since he will most likely be 6 or 7-1 i will be betting like crazy on him

i told you not to bet Time Squared in the BG.
i told you Chekov was not a good play.
i told you that I would not bet on Lightstyle.
these were all strong feelings you had.

Here is another one, don't bet like crazy on No Biz in the Derby. He is not very likely to win imo, and I feel strongly about that.


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