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Fearless Leader 04-09-2007 07:13 PM

Kentucky Derby cancelled
 
Due to the absence of ANY legitimate quality three year olds that can go ten furlongs, Churchill Downs announced that the 2007 Kentucky Derby has been cancelled and replaced on the card with a 1 mile and 70 yards Non winners of two other than allowance race. "The racing secretary felt that this was a more appropriate race given the lack of any decent three year olds and that he could use the two million dollar purse to beef up the overnight races during the remainder of the meet." The first Saturday in May will still be a great day of racing even while shuffling the inept sophmores to the back burner where they belong. There are six other Graded stakes filled with quality nominations so no one will even miss the Kentucky Derby by days end. The blanket of roses will be divided up into individual boquets for the winner's of each of the stakes, and My Old Kentucky Home will be sung before the Early Times Turf Handicap.

JDank34 04-09-2007 07:14 PM

Ridiculous

brianwspencer 04-09-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
who are you, and is there any point to you posting this ?

Priceless. You're so funny sometimes and don't even know it.

GPK 04-09-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
Due to the absence of ANY legitimate quality three year olds that can go ten furlongs, Churchill Downs announced that the 2007 Kentucky Derby has been cancelled and replaced on the card with a 1 mile and 70 yards Non winners of two other than allowance race. "The racing secretary felt that this was a more appropriate race given the lack of any decent three year olds and that he could use the two million dollar purse to beef up the overnight races during the remainder of the meet." The first Saturday in May will still be a great day of racing even while shuffling the inept sophmores to the back burner where they belong. There are six other Graded stakes filled with quality nominations so no one will even miss the Kentucky Derby by days end. The blanket of roses will be divided up into individual boquets for the winner's of each of the stakes, and My Old Kentucky Home will be sung before the Early Times Turf Handicap.



I thought it was the Woodford Reserve Turf Handicap??

ateamstupid 04-09-2007 07:23 PM

The funny thing is that a thread like this surfaces every year. There's never a Derby good enough for everyone.

ArlJim78 04-09-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
who are you, and is there any point to you posting this ?

have you no shame?

miraja2 04-09-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
who are you, and is there any point to you posting this ?

If I had a nickel.....

Cajungator26 04-09-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
If I had a nickel for every time you posted a garbage and POINTLESS post, I'd be rich.

There, fixed it for you. LOL

brianwspencer 04-09-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
There, fixed it for you. LOL

ooooh the gloves come off the sweet girl from the south.

miraja2 04-09-2007 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
There, fixed it for you. LOL

I preferred to leave it a bit more open ended.....but you pretty much got the gist of it!

Fearless Leader 04-10-2007 02:44 PM

It's both sad and funny that instead of taking this thread as an opportunity to examine the facts, which by the way speak for themselves, that this is an extrordinarily weak group of sophmores, several of the teenagers who are members here obviously don't have the intellectual capacity to have a serious discussion and instead prefer to fantasize that this crop is actually legitimate and to ridicule those who have a firm grasp on reality.

Interestingly, this is the same group of novices that don't get the irony that Funny Cide hates the cold weather.

Cannon Shell 04-10-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
It's both sad and funny that instead of taking this thread as an opportunity to examine the facts, which by the way speak for themselves, that this is an extrordinarily weak group of sophmores, several of the teenagers who are members here obviously don't have the intellectual capacity to have a serious discussion and instead prefer to fantasize that this crop is actually legitimate and to ridicule those who have a firm grasp on reality.

Interestingly, this is the same group of novices that don't get the irony that Funny Cide hates the cold weather.

They may suck but this is the Derby trail website and we are required by law to discuss the contenders as though they are alltime greats. Except PG, he is exempt.

paisjpq 04-10-2007 02:59 PM

anyone know if they will hold the derby next year? cause i'd like to know before I order tickets.

Cannon Shell 04-10-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
anyone know if they will hold the derby next year? cause i'd like to know before I order tickets.

Money back guarantee

SentToStud 04-10-2007 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
It's both sad and funny that instead of taking this thread as an opportunity to examine the facts, which by the way speak for themselves, that this is an extrordinarily weak group of sophmores, several of the teenagers who are members here obviously don't have the intellectual capacity to have a serious discussion and instead prefer to fantasize that this crop is actually legitimate and to ridicule those who have a firm grasp on reality.

Interestingly, this is the same group of novices that don't get the irony that Funny Cide hates the cold weather.

"Facts" don't speak ...

"That this", as you've used it, is a dangling participle....

No wonder test scores are still down.

How do I get back my tax dollars that went to "No Child Left Behind?"

Buffymommy 04-10-2007 03:40 PM

I wonder if someone made a post like this in 1973? hmmm....

Thoroughbred Fan 04-10-2007 03:48 PM

While this is a pretty ridiculous thread, I often wonder if some wealthy horse owner would be interested in breeding, over several years, a group of horses with true stamina lines. There are very few races over nine furlongs for a horse like that anymore, but if you are rich you could breed for specific races.

Just a thought?

ateamstupid 04-10-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
If this crop is so weak you should have no problem pounding the exacta, tri and super like it is a wednesday claimer at aqueduct. You could wheel out Secretariat, War Admiral, and Bid and people would still complain about something.

You can never tell when someone will step up big...look at Charismatic.

Well said.

slotdirt 04-10-2007 04:26 PM

What???? War Admiral would never make the tri in that race!

Lame Chop 04-10-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
It's both sad and funny that instead of taking this thread as an opportunity to examine the facts, which by the way speak for themselves, that this is an extrordinarily weak group of sophmores, several of the teenagers who are members here obviously don't have the intellectual capacity to have a serious discussion and instead prefer to fantasize that this crop is actually legitimate and to ridicule those who have a firm grasp on reality.

Interestingly, this is the same group of novices that don't get the irony that Funny Cide hates the cold weather.

I am new to this forum, but I have to say that I agree with you for the most part. The people who have responded to you so far have not taken your premise very seriously. You placed it in a humorous context and they responded in a very sour manner acting like spoiled children instead of either agreeing with you or disagreeing in an adult way.

If this is the level of discourse to be expected here, maybe I'm in the wrong place. I suppose the same people who were so sour with you will now come crashing down on me.

The reason I agree with you is that this year's 3 year olds have not run very fast. All of the prep races have been run in slow times and none of the top contenders seem to have improved much since they were 2 year olds.

Lame Chop 04-10-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
"Facts" don't speak ...

"That this", as you've used it, is a dangling participle....

No wonder test scores are still down.

How do I get back my tax dollars that went to "No Child Left Behind?"

There was absolutely nothing grammatically wrong with what the previous member posted. Your crude response was inappropriate. You seem to be a big blowhard. Is that the level of discourse to be expected here? You owe the other gentleman an apology. I doubt if you paid very much in taxes. You probably received more in welfare checks and food stamps than you were ever taxed for.

Cajungator26 04-10-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamb Chop
There was absolutely nothing grammatically wrong with what the previous member posted. Your crude response was inappropriate. You seem to be a big blowhard. Is that the level of discourse to be expected here? You owe the other gentleman an apology. I doubt if you paid very much in taxes. You probably received more in welfare checks and food stamps than you were ever taxed for.

1.) Welcome to the board.

2.) Don't talk to SentToStud in that manner.

3.) Do you have a problem with people who receive welfare checks and food stamps?

Lame Chop 04-10-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
If this crop is so weak you should have no problem pounding the exacta, tri and super like it is a wednesday claimer at aqueduct. You could wheel out Secretariat, War Admiral, and Bid and people would still complain about something.

You can never tell when someone will step up big...look at Charismatic.

Poorly said. Your post makes no sense as something serious or as a parody. What has the poor quality of a crop got to do with placing winning bets in a 20-horse field? There's no logical connection there. If Sceretariat or War Admiral or Spectacular Bid were "wheeled out" I'm sure the original poster would be quite pleased. Go back to your scratch pad and try to develop a message that's a little more comprehensible.

Lame Chop 04-10-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
1.) Welcome to the board.

2.) Don't talk to SentToStud in that manner.

3.) Do you have a problem with people who receive welfare checks and food stamps?

1. Thank you.
2. May I talk to anyone else in that manner?
3. I have a problem with blowhards who unnecessarily try to demean other members who are trying to make a valid point.

Cajungator26 04-10-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamb Chop
Poorly said. Your post makes no sense as something serious or as a parody. What has the poor quality of a crop got to do with placing winning bets in a 20-horse field? There's no logical connection there. If Sceretariat or War Admiral or Spectacular Bid were "wheeled out" I'm sure the original poster would be quite pleased. Go back to your scratch pad and try to develop a message that's a little more comprehensible.

Geesh, talk about making friends right off the bat...

OF COURSE this is a weak crop. That's pretty evident to anyone that watches horseracing on a regular basis. I still find it exciting to look at the contenders we DO have, though. It's not like we're going to get a new bunch of 3 year olds this year, so we might as well enjoy what we've got, make as much money as we can handicapping them and hope that next year's crop is better. JMO.

ArlJim78 04-10-2007 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamb Chop
I am new to this forum, but I have to say that I agree with you for the most part. The people who have responded to you so far have not taken your premise very seriously. You placed it in a humorous context and they responded in a very sour manner acting like spoiled children instead of either agreeing with you or disagreeing in an adult way.

If this is the level of discourse to be expected here, maybe I'm in the wrong place. I suppose the same people who were so sour with you will now come crashing down on me.

The reason I agree with you is that this year's 3 year olds have not run very fast. All of the prep races have been run in slow times and none of the top contenders seem to have improved much since they were 2 year olds.

yes it's clear you are in the wrong place.

thanks for stopping by though, don't forget to sign the register and buy a DT hat on your way out.

ladies and gentlemen, lets all have a big round of warm applause for the one and only Mr. Bold Brooklynite!!!

Kasept 04-10-2007 07:40 PM

If the thread hasn't been taken seriously. it is more because of the satiric tone and positioning F/L set with it.. not because there is an inability for the assembled to discuss the quality of the crop. Elsewhere, there was a day long delving into Tiago and his merits as a Derby player as well as a thorough analysis of Pletcher's individual disappoin.. uh, prospects.

I think F/L suggested a reasonable premise that this is a sub-par Derby crop and sophomore group in general, so I'm happy to start.

It's a sub-par group as of now, remarkably slow based on Beyer pars with historical Derby preps, but with a twist. They're largely sound and have reversed a recent trend that saw few of the precocious juvenile stars carrying their 2 year old success into a sophomore season.

There is simply one seemingly outstanding horse in Street Sense; a consistant, professional horse in Scat Daddy; a couple of potential stars that may be truly top level thoroughbreds (Any Given Saturday, Nobiz, Great Hunter) and a hatful of late arrivals that could be really nice at some point this year (Curlin, Deadly Dealer, Ketchikan).

After that, there is a serious dropoff to a large group of 'nice' horses that seem largely interchangeable and forgettable... As always though, there is a long way to go before we will get the true read. But as of April 10th? Doesn't look like a particularly memorable group.

Bigsmc 04-10-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
yes it's clear you are in the wrong place.

thanks for stopping by though, don't forget to sign the register and buy a DT hat on your way out.

ladies and gentlemen, lets all have a big round of warm applause for the one and only Mr. Bold Brooklynite!!!

Already banned, that didn't take long.

Good call Jim.

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 08:07 PM

Good Lord I missed Derby Trail's fastest banning in history while watching American Idol?!

paisjpq 04-10-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Good Lord I missed Derby Trail's fastest banning in history while watching American Idol?!

just vote sanjaya...then you don't have to watch:p

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
just vote sanjaya...then you don't have to watch:p

Hey, he wasn't awful tonight :)

ArlJim78 04-10-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Already banned, that didn't take long.

Good call Jim.

there was an unmistakable offensive odor, dead giveaway.

paisjpq 04-10-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Hey, he wasn't awful tonight :)

I can't stomach the show...but my DAD just called me to tell me he wasn't bad tonight:rolleyes:

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I can't stomach the show...but my DAD just called me to tell me he wasn't bad tonight:rolleyes:

I really dislike both Chris R. and him, but credit where credit is due I suppose.

And while some may deem it off-topic, I don't think that posting this anywhere could ever be considered off-topic based solely on its delicious nature:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0-qVhDuQws

Cajungator26 04-10-2007 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
there was an unmistakable offensive odor, dead giveaway.

You're the detective of the century... well... I think only Morty has you beat. :p

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
You're the detective of the century... well... I think only Morty has you beat. :p

Speaking of odors -- much like your Derby selections.

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Best horses pointing towards the Derby:

Scat Daddy (best horse since the Bid)
Any Given Saturday
Circular Quay (don't think he's in the gate for the derby, though.)
Cowtown Cat
Deadly Dealer
Sam P
King of the Roxy
Soaring By


Cajungator26 04-10-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Speaking of odors -- much like your Derby selections.

Dammit, B! Those are Pletcher's horses ranked! :D

(I absolutely adore Scat Daddy, though, so there. :p )

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Dammit, B! Those are Pletcher's horses ranked! :D

(I absolutely adore Scat Daddy, though, so there. :p )

No, I think it was pretty clear your post that you said that those were the best horses pointing towards the Derby -- including the best horses since the Bid.


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