Cobalt Blue
 

Crushed. Good spot. No go.

Had nothing when asked!

Typical California horse.

that was bad... he has no business going on to the derby off of that prep.

and probably won't.
merv goes back to the derby horse drawing board.

That was BAD. I am kinda angry as I had used CB in the race. I agree. He should not go to KY.

you're about as predictable as the sun.

:D :D He did the Lava Man!!!:eek:

Damn detention barns!

time to rename thread:

Cobalt Blew

TOUCHÉ!!

I guess those who thought he ran slow in his last were right...if you can't win at the "Haw", you ain't winning at the " 2-spires".

He had nothing before they asked. He's never had anything.

Does anyone else tend to think this was a BAD spot for this horse? Speed favoring HAW with a legit front runner in C'Town? Why didn't this horse stay out west and run in the SA Derby? Poor planning more than a overall reflection on the horse (although I don't think he's that good either).

The spot wasn't the problem. . . the horse just wasn't that good. . . O'Neill had Liquidity in the SA Derby already and saw the Ill. Derby as a soft spot for Cobalt to get the earnings. . . I am not a fan of O'Neill's at all but I don't have a problem with where he spotted this horse. . .

it wasn't a bad spot. if cobalt was what they said he was, he should have won.

Even if you DO win at the Haw.....probably won't win at the 2-spires!

There are really no excuses right now. He had a good trip, he was in perfect position, and he had nothing. And there is also no way I am throwing this horse away. No derby. But we will see what happens later in the year.

i wouldn't use him in the derby IF he shows. but it would depend on where he lands as to whether i would go with him--i didn't go with him yesterday, even tho weeks ago i put him in my road to the roses stable. a derby pretender.

it's difficult tho-a lot of people see a horse in their program who ran in a spring classic, and automatically think it means they're better then anyone else in the field. and that is certainly far from true. no telling what he'll turn out to be like.

also, i see where people say the derby trail 'ruins' horses--i disagree. i think many of these horses show flashes of talent, of brilliance, and they are put in over their head in the drive to make the derby. they just don't belong, show they don't, and people take that to mean they're ruined. no, they just aren't THAT good and show it.

what can i say im absolutely heartbroken but i cant disregard him becuase of a SINGLE bad race and he lost to a runaway loser who had absolutely everything his own way with that slow pace upfront. to most people racing is a game of what have you done for me lately but again i cant simply rule him out off one bad effort. he was here for a week in advance and in chris blocks barn from what i heard here but still it was the horses first time shipping and running on a surface thats been bias and goofy all meet, the track was altered friday morning before the races as well

whata idiotic statement. apparently youve never had a brain if you truly believe this horse has zero talent

It's not that he has zero talent, but that he has never run incredibly fast. Chuck commented on it earlier yesterday before the race, and I didn't get a chance to check it out until after work -- but it was remarkable to see how unimpressive his figures were against the other real contenders on the trail.

yep he was slow right from the start as a 2yo when he ran in 58 first time out, in 5 lifetime outs hes won 3 times and banked over 200k, whata absolute rat who the heck would wanna own him LOL

Instead of writing a whole new post, I'll just quote myself:

figz are justa tool and not the be all end all and are not a 100% accurate. if figz were that dead on every winning horse would be 1/9. ill trust my own eyes over figz everyday

Well ok, outside of figs -- he looked good winning an allowance race from just off the pace.

Then he looked like he had it all his own way on the front end of a stakes race including showstoppers Air Commander, Level Red (see yesterday's stellar last-place finish), Dee Rain, and Grapelli who didn't run a lick, and you have not only a horse who was suspect as far as figures go -- but also highly overbet based on the way his stakes win played out and the ones who traipsed home behind him.

I know you're sad about losing your Derby pick from way back, but yesterday just confirmed what a lot of people thought -- that he was going to have the same problems as Brother Derek did after that one showed the way in races very similar to Blue's San Felipe.

True but they seemed to be well supported after looking at yesterdays results. I would have thought that he was running real big figs because everyone seemed so high on him. But his figures were pretty ordinary for a derby type horse and he did nothing yesterday to prove those numbers wrong. Does not mean that he wont be a good horse but he is not among the fastest of his generation yet. Truthfully how many of these late comers to the Triple Crown trail ever have a real impact in any of the TC races?

Just looked at the TG figs, not only was he slower than most going in, his last two races were 5 (top), 7 (2 points off), and then yesterday, shipping cross country on 3 weeks rest.. this is the classic 0-2-(X) predictable pattern, and I know I'm writing this after the fact;) I did not play Cobalt Blue yesterday, nor did I play Cowtown Cat.