Owner Sues Mandella and Hughes Over Heel Nerving
 

The Blood Horse.

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38297

good I say.

lazy? or too busy with your evening 'project'? (evil giggle)

how is that new matching "bitch" comforter working out on your bed???:p :p

cozy...thanks

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Only cause I love Paisjpq do I give her so much grief....:D

This is very touchy subject for me and I can tell you that I can see where people who do not understand or have knowledge of this procedure are upset.
From my stand point knowing why it was done and having been personally involved with this horse including galloping and working him I can tell you this was not an inhumane or unkind thing.
There are alot of procedeures done to horses that are perfectly humane and legal that are not even reported such as myectomys , chip surguries , hardware put in or taken out and so on. These things, if you were to see some of the ways they are performed you would most likely be grossed out and think that some surguries where the horses throats are left with a gaping draining hole for weeks would be inhumane.
I happen to also feel that I work with one of the best all around hands on horseman ever and I know that he nor the people he trains for would ever knowingly put an animal or human at risk .

How many venues are there where this procedure prevents the horse from being entered? If most places don't care I don't think this owner can really get some sort of settlement. Can't they just reverse the claim and give the money back to the person? Then keep a list in the future?

I was hoping you would reply to this. Thank you for your thoughts
on this article. My thoughts on Mandella are still the same. I always
thought highly of him. His horses always look like a picture of health.

It seems to be another question of disclosure. The health history of any horse should be available for inspection at any time. The new buyers contend such information was not fully disclosed.

They dont deserve their money back. Every trainer worth a damn that claims horses knows how to find the nerved list. In many tracks it is posted right in the racing office. Why should a horse claimed in California be returned because of a rule in AZ?

How would the health history of a horse be available? Define health history?

Cannon, it is a lost cause questioning sumitas.....

As in, a folder with a medical history. such as humans have. seems pretty simple to me.

If this was the case, their would be probably four tracks operating, the rest bye bye....the claimers are the earners my friend, no claimers, no horse racing

You are kidding right?

They should sue their trainer for not fully researching the information available such as the rules in Arizona and information about the procedure done that was given to the proper authorities.

They should not it's part of the claming game, buyer beware.

Iowa and Arizona are the only 2 states u cant run in, So they have only about what 20 other states to choose from ?

I dont see what the rules in Arizona have to do with it? The horse was claimed in CA and it has already been stated that all proper procedures were followed. I just dont see how they think they have a case. Of course in the court system in the Golden State anything can happen.

Yeah I just don't see how it could be suggested that this procedure was hidden just because they knew the horse couldn't be run in Arizona or something and if you're talking the general idea of hiding things in claiming races, it's par for the course. Everybody does it (not that it's fair). The horse comes out of the race with an injury that had been masked, it's considered just too darn bad right? Mandella and Hughes probably weren't paying attention to the possibility that someone could try to run it where heel nerving wasn't allowed and I don't think you can argue that's really their responsibility, to think where the horse might get run and make some big announcement. It implies conspiracy when it's really a case of getting screwed by the conflicting rules of jurisdictions.

I completely agree. He loves these horses so much that he grows grass for them to graze on, and I have been told that he can't help but touch every horse as he walks by them when they are in their stalls. In addition, he is a happy-medium trainer. He is neither too soft nor too hard on his horses. He knows exactly how hard to push them. All of his horses look great and happy. He is a superb horseman in my eyes and a complete professional. We need more trainers like him in this sport. My avatar is actually a picture of me kissing a friend's horse in his stable.

Apparantly the horse was doing well enough that they were going to run him in the Last Chance Derby at Turf Paradise. It wasnt until the trainer went to turn in the papers and the racing office wouldnt accept them because they were stamped that he had been heel nerved , that is when the crap started to hit the fan.

'nuff said.

The claiming game is tough. Tough noogies for them. Find another race!

the new owner needs to find a new trainer! what a mess on that guys part. and it stinks that some will read the headline that mandella is being sued, and take it at face value, and be critical of him in future--their thinking will be had mandella done nothing wrong, this guy wouldn't bring a case! and that's a shame.