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SilverRP 03-31-2007 09:56 PM

Jerry Bailey
 
Anyone seen his DVD? Worth getting? Or is it just basic stuff?

POINTGIVEN1985 03-31-2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP
Anyone seen his DVD? Worth getting? Or is it just basic stuff?

i think its pretty good.....

brianwspencer 03-31-2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i think its pretty good.....

Everything makes sense now.

ArlJim78 03-31-2007 10:26 PM

thats all I need to know.

Coach Pants 03-31-2007 10:27 PM

LOL

brianwspencer 03-31-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
thats all I need to know.

Perfect.

pmayjr 04-01-2007 10:18 AM

His DVD about Riding or Handicapping?

I saw he had a DVD about handicapping, and I thought that was strange. If you read his book, he repetitively says in there that he's not a good horse bettor or handicapper. He's read the DRF all through his racing career to figure out the shape of the races he'd be riding in. Like who's setting pace and how many will go to the lead, who'll be coming late, who'll be to his outside, inside, etc. But when it comes to ebtting on horses, he said he barely ever did it, and wasn't much good at it. So if it's a handicapping DVD, I wouldn't buy it.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-01-2007 10:25 AM

Once he got off the "bottle", he became a good jock and got the good mounts. It saved his career, I can see him knocking the bettors and handicappers...most of the time he was on "chalk" expect for a few rare occasions. He's not tell me anything I don't already know, so for the price...I can use it elsewhere. To each his own....

pmayjr 04-01-2007 10:26 AM

Hickory, definately true, but even after he got off the bottle, he's never been a serious horse-bettor.

Pedigree Ann 04-01-2007 11:16 AM

All I can say is the marketing of this DVD fits in with Bailey's image as a rider - out to find the best way to make the most bucks. Compare that to what other top jockeys are doing in retirement - working the backstretch as a minister, developing a jockey school, working as stewards or other officials, giving back to the sport rather than cashing in on it.

Grits 04-01-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
All I can say is the marketing of this DVD fits in with Bailey's image as a rider - out to find the best way to make the most bucks. Compare that to what other top jockeys are doing in retirement - working the backstretch as a minister, developing a jockey school, working as stewards or other officials, giving back to the sport rather than cashing in on it.

Our country was built on free enterprise, and it continues to thrive on that today. I don't see Bailey cashing in on this sport, instead, I see Bailey cashing in on Bailey--on his skill and his years of experience. I find nothing wrong there.

I believe this, along with the fact that not any of us are in the position to know what Jerry Bailey has done with a single dime of his income, his wealth.

Anonymity, void of the praise and view of others can be a tremendous gift. And it is often one's choice.

ArlJim78 04-01-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
All I can say is the marketing of this DVD fits in with Bailey's image as a rider - out to find the best way to make the most bucks. Compare that to what other top jockeys are doing in retirement - working the backstretch as a minister, developing a jockey school, working as stewards or other officials, giving back to the sport rather than cashing in on it.

I don't hold that against him. He is not alone in terms of cashing in. Who doesn't do that? I think most jockeys would do it as well except that they can't because they don't have what it takes. I don't understand the criticism of Bailey that I often hear. When I listen to the man its no wonder he was so great on a horse, he thinks and has a brain. He seems confident but I don't hold that against him.

SilverRP 04-01-2007 04:05 PM

Wow, I just wanted to know if anyone out there has seen his dvd, and if they have, is it worth it. I don't give a damn about his personal life. I am glad to know that there is at least one person in this world who has never done anything wrong.

Sorry I asked.

GPK 04-01-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP
Wow, I just wanted to know if anyone out there has seen his dvd, and if they have, is it worth it. I don't give a damn about his personal life. I am glad to know that there is at least one person in this world who has never done anything wrong.

Sorry I asked.



LOL....welcome to the board.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-01-2007 08:49 PM

lol you published a book didnt you ann and sorry to say i dont agree with alotta what you say. what have you accomplished in this game? anyways mr bailey is more than deserving of all the success hes gotten! he worked harder than any1 and constantly took his work home with him studying tapes of races, the form, etc etc etc. and to the other person who mentioned bailey riding a buncha fav's......well you act like all the trainers and owners in the racing world got together 1 night and decided to draw names outta hat and baileys came out..........theres a reason he was given those horses to ride! also you seem to be forgetting his monster BC score as well.


i believe in this game you need to be humble or the game will humble your rear end rather quickly! whether youre allen jerkens or the trainer from ohio who hadnt won a race for a decade, whether youre frankie dettorri or art madrid lol, or a owner, a handicapper, a fan, a hotwalker, a groom or whatever theres always more to learn

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-01-2007 08:57 PM

last thing i will say about bailey was i was glad to see him go out while he was still on top! he smashed johnny v in win % his last year and was robbed of the eclipse in my opinion. other greats who i saw towards the end like mccarron, day, eddie d etc didnt go out while they were on top

The Bid 04-01-2007 09:04 PM

I wouldnt buy any handicapping garbage. Just take your lumps and create your own criteria for betting horses.

As for that horse that broke a track record going 2fl your friends would be foolish not to sell. Theyll be lucky to get 20k in 9 months.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-01-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP
Wow, I just wanted to know if anyone out there has seen his dvd, and if they have, is it worth it. I don't give a damn about his personal life. I am glad to know that there is at least one person in this world who has never done anything wrong.

Sorry I asked.

dude dont worry about it there a certain ppl on here that you will learn you need to ignore, but anyway.... if you dont know much about handicapping its not a bad buy and even if you do know alot its still not a bad buy, i would buy it if your a amature or if you know what your doing.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-01-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
I wouldnt buy any handicapping garbage. Just take your lumps and create your own criteria for betting horses. As for that horse that broke a track record going 2fl your friends would be foolish not to sell. Theyll be lucky to get 20k in 9 months.

Do your own homework, what works for you...it is a game opinions
and most of all...it's your money. :)
do as you see fit.

SilverRP 04-01-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
dude dont worry about it there a certain ppl on here that you will learn you need to ignore, but anyway.... if you dont know much about handicapping its not a bad buy and even if you do know alot its still not a bad buy, i would buy it if your a amature or if you know what your doing.

Well, I've been playing for 10-15 years, but saw the commercial and it looked interesting. Figured it wasn't bad. I just thought I'd see what others who may have seen it had to say before buying it. Thanks for the input.

ArlJim78 04-01-2007 09:54 PM

I feel like I'm in a parallel universe.

brianwspencer 04-01-2007 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
dude dont worry about it there a certain ppl on here that you will learn you need to ignore, but anyway.... if you dont know much about handicapping its not a bad buy and even if you do know alot its still not a bad buy, i would buy it if your a amature or if you know what your doing.

Spoken like a true pro. If anyone would know about "being a amature," I'd have some guesses as to where to start.

Coach Pants 04-01-2007 10:19 PM

The money spent on the dvd would be better spent on strippers.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-01-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
The money spent on the dvd would be better spent on strippers.

polecats is a good place

ArlJim78 04-01-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
The money spent on the dvd would be better spent on strippers.

A better idea would be to donate it to the Schenectady public school system.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-01-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP
Well, I've been playing for 10-15 years, but saw the commercial and it looked interesting. Figured it wasn't bad. I just thought I'd see what others who may have seen it had to say before buying it. Thanks for the input.

im 22 years old and have been following horses since i was 15, jerry bailey is by far the best jockey i have ever seen, thats what made me buy it, and i watched it only once, but i felt like i learned from it.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-01-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Just spit soda out onto my screen after reading this. Thanks Jim.

lol the funny thing is albany is no better... actually 9/10 would say albany is alot worst then schenectady

Coach Pants 04-01-2007 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
im 22 years old and have been following horses since i was 15, jerry bailey is by far the best jockey i have ever seen, thats what made me buy it, and i watched it only once, but i felt like i learned from it.

I finally figured out who you remind me of.



It all makes "sence" now.

Supah Brother 04-01-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
polecats is a good place



LOL, Its a good place if you like butt stains. A group of friends went there for a bachelor party. As we were walking out the bachelor noticed a brown streak on his shirt. :eek: :D

POINTGIVEN1985 04-01-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Supah Brother
LOL, Its a good place if you like butt stains. A group of friends went there for a bachelor party. As we were walking out the bachelor noticed a brown streak on his shirt. :eek: :D

well there is one who would agree...

POINTGIVEN1985 04-01-2007 11:11 PM

and on the serious side, kids are killed in the albany school district there is tons of gang violence among many other things.

ArlJim78 04-01-2007 11:12 PM

omg, now this thread takes yet another unfortunate turn.

i can't stop laughing, the guy just wanted a recommendation on the cd's, and now we're learning about "butt stains".

Supah Brother 04-01-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
omg, now this thread takes yet another unfortunate turn.

i can't stop laughing, the guy just wanted a recommendation on the cd's, and now we're learning about "butt stains".


lol sorry had to tell that story:D

ArlJim78 04-01-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Supah Brother
lol sorry had to tell that story:D

no problem, it fits the theme of the thread perfectly.:D

SentToStud 04-02-2007 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Grits
Our country was built on free enterprise, and it continues to thrive on that today. I don't see Bailey cashing in on this sport, instead, I see Bailey cashing in on Bailey--on his skill and his years of experience. I find nothing wrong there.

I believe this, along with the fact that not any of us are in the position to know what Jerry Bailey has done with a single dime of his income, his wealth.

Anonymity, void of the praise and view of others can be a tremendous gift. And it is often one's choice.

Bailey lives a couple miles from me. I've seen him several times at Home Depot; one week I saw him there two or three straight days. I was buying concrete; he was getting lumber. Talked to him once; a very nice guy. When I told him I bet against Silver Wagon (his last ride), he laughed and said he's never met anyone who bet ON the horse. Blue jeans, t-shirt, ballcap, pickup truck. Seemed like a regular guy. I'm glad he's doing well for himself.


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