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disappearingdan_akaplaya 03-28-2007 10:45 PM

chantal leaving?
 
listed to ride some opening day@woodbine

blackthroatedwind 03-28-2007 10:54 PM

There will instantly be about ten less bad rides a week in NY.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 03-28-2007 10:58 PM

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There will instantly be about ten less bad rides a week in NY.

lol just curious black did you bet against her in the 2nd today?

blackthroatedwind 03-28-2007 11:06 PM

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lol just curious black did you bet against her in the 2nd today?

I didn't bet the second race. I liked the Turner horse that ran off in the post parade and got scratched.

The fact that she won a ridiculously slow race, where the heavy favorite almost fell down at the break, does not take away from her totally inept riding over the last 10 or so months she has ridden in NY. If you want to see something really comical, check out her performance on Baby Gray on the turf at Belmont in the fall....and then look at the subsequent performances by the horse when she was removed.

Merlinsky 03-28-2007 11:36 PM

Wasn't she the one who ended up on the ground and they took the picture where she's in a fetal position under the outstretched legs of a running horse? If it's a different jockey I'd love to know who but I seem to remember her name.

GPK 03-28-2007 11:42 PM

she taking Diane Nelson with her???

GPK 03-28-2007 11:45 PM

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I wish she would take Mike Smith with her. Maybe Samyn could catch a lift with them after his horror ride Sunday as well.

Jean Frog Samyn.....I would put him on the same list as Julien, as jocks I can never get right, but Jean Luc winning at 3% on the year doesn't bother me.

whodey17 03-28-2007 11:46 PM

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Jean Frog Samyn.....I would put him on the same list as Julien, as jocks I can never get right, but Jean Luc winning at 3% on the year doesn't bother me.

I used to love Jean Luc when he would ride on the grass. But he is one jock I will not bet.

blackthroatedwind 03-28-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Wasn't she the one who ended up on the ground and they took the picture where she's in a fetal position under the outstretched legs of a running horse? If it's a different jockey I'd love to know who but I seem to remember her name.


That was her. At the Meadowlands.

blackthroatedwind 03-28-2007 11:53 PM

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she taking Diane Nelson with her???

I was wondering if Diane retired. She came back from her injury, rode a few horses, then took off some mounts and disappeared.

I think seeing how difficult it is for women to compete riding at top circuits makes me appreciate Krone a lot more in retrospect. She had some annoying riding habits but she could flat out ride. She is the only woman in this game who rode heads up against the guys and won more than her share. She was TOUGH.

Pawtucket 03-28-2007 11:58 PM

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Wasn't she the one who ended up on the ground and they took the picture where she's in a fetal position under the outstretched legs of a running horse? If it's a different jockey I'd love to know who but I seem to remember her name.

Meadowlands 10-18-06 (after bailing from the ill-fated Actstatic)

GPK 03-29-2007 12:03 AM

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Meadowlands 10-18-06


that there is some scary sh*t....

whodey17 03-29-2007 12:08 AM

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that there is some scary sh*t....

Yes, I agree. No way could I get myself to be that small like she did.

ALostTexan 03-29-2007 01:49 AM

Wow. Amazing picture. Shocked that a photographer caught that very moment like that...

ALostTexan

NTamm1215 03-29-2007 07:58 AM

Undoubtedly the highlight of Chantal's stay was the Saratoga meet of 2005 where she actually rode well. I know I had her at huge numbers more than a few times, of course that was only after I had to convince myself that she was capable.

Stock Tip, World Series, and Square Dancing come to mind. It just seemed like she was never aggressive enough to be successful at Aqueduct and she never really got a feel for Belmont. I'm sure as a rider there are nuances about Belmont that you have to know, but Chantal certainly had enough time to figure it out.

Just my $.02.

NT

philcski 03-29-2007 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I was wondering if Diane retired. She came back from her injury, rode a few horses, then took off some mounts and disappeared.

I think seeing how difficult it is for women to compete riding at top circuits makes me appreciate Krone a lot more in retrospect. She had some annoying riding habits but she could flat out ride. She is the only woman in this game who rode heads up against the guys and won more than her share. She was TOUGH.

And Anna Napravink in Md. She was absolutely tearing it up last year, and will likely continue that once she returns from injury.

Diane Nelson isn't nearly as bad as Chantal, et al. She just always had completely inept, hopeless mounts.


Chantal just never "got it." I don't know if it was a lack of aggressiveness or instruction or whatever, but when you take back a horse with speed and try to swing wide on the inner, you're going to lose. Simple as that.

ARyan 03-29-2007 09:31 AM

Just me, but I am sad she is leaving. I knew I could always toss any ride she had. If she beat me, so be it, but she hardly ever did.

MisterB 03-29-2007 09:53 AM

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Just me, but I am sad she is leaving. I knew I could always toss any ride she had. If she beat me, so be it, but she hardly ever did.

Smart person here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definate tosses are what we should look for. All positive, I'll miss the women:)

Coach Pants 03-29-2007 09:57 AM

I wish she'd come to Ellis Park this summer. I'd enjoy watching her ride.

Storm Cadet 03-29-2007 10:26 AM

Just my 2 cents...Chantal was my jockey for one of the horses I previously was part owner of...Fighting Speedy. I think we had her on the horse like 3 or 4 times and never won. We made the change to Johnny V at Saratoga and bingo, big win in an allowance race. Then we made the move to Pablo Fragaso and Speedy won 3 more races in short order moving up the NW2-NW3-and NY Stakes races.

There was a lot of owner controversy about changing from CS, but in the end it worked out for us. She did do very well at the SAR meet riding for the Chief and others, bringing in some bombs. I can't figure out why she was not more consistant here at Belmont. Looked like maybe she lost confidence that she had built up at SAR.:confused:

On a personal note, she was a good professional jockey, always taking time to talk to fans, our owners and their families in the paddock, and especially the kids when we brought them to AM workouts. I wish her all the best in her native Canada!

Left Bank 03-29-2007 12:05 PM

Here is the link
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/HorseRacin...53492-sun.html

Merlinsky 03-29-2007 05:04 PM

Out of curiosity, what's going on with Chris McCarron's school? Are there many women involved in the program? There are clearly examples of both good and bad female jockeys just like with men so I get frustrated when the ones making the news are like Chantal. It just confirms in the minds of some chauvinists that women can't do it. Sharp minds and intuition are important in getting the best out of your mount and some women can manage the physical demands. If you doubt that, look at female bodybuilders and gymnasts. Surely there are some that just need the right opportunity like that training program.

Cannon Shell 03-29-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Out of curiosity, what's going on with Chris McCarron's school? Are there many women involved in the program? There are clearly examples of both good and bad female jockeys just like with men so I get frustrated when the ones making the news are like Chantal. It just confirms in the minds of some chauvinists that women can't do it. Sharp minds and intuition are important in getting the best out of your mount and some women can manage the physical demands. If you doubt that, look at female bodybuilders and gymnasts. Surely there are some that just need the right opportunity like that training program.

I think that most people have moved beyond the sex of a jockey. There are some good, young women jockeys that are going to do well.

Left Bank 03-30-2007 12:10 PM

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I wish she'd come to Ellis Park this summer. I'd enjoy watching her ride.

I was hoping she would go to Los Angeles and get into Porn.:D :D :)

DJK 03-30-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Out of curiosity, what's going on with Chris McCarron's school? Are there many women involved in the program?

I know that the school is open and that there are female students. There were stories in the Kentucky papers, and pictures, but they may not still be available.


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