GW I stand behind my man
 

This is too much folks. George put too many friends in high places and is fiercely loyal even when they really fkup. There has got to be some confidence in the men you pick, Not just he is a long time friend. So many bad appointments.

How in God's name can one have their Attorney General change his mind about what happened 3 or 4 times. ANy prosecutor knows when the story changes so many times something is wrong. The Republicans need to come clean and put everything on the table or they are going to lose every election known to man. So many incompetent idealogues... I thought that was the Democrats way of doing things.

He's not changing his mind; he's trying to see which lie will go over. I love how his lawyer, Monica Goodling, is pleading the Fifth at the upcoming Senate hearings. I thought one didn't take the Fifth if one hadn't done anything wrong...

I'm glad to see this isn't going away, though I must admit I tend to agree with Tim F. of Balloon-Juice's Second Law of Interchat, which is: As online discussions of Republican transgressions lengthen the probability of an attempted Clinton Did It! distraction approaches one.

the fifth amendment is a right under the constitution, it's there for a reason. and using it should not necessarily be a way for someone to point a finger and say 'see'. after all, these days when you say i don't remember, you take a chance of being charged with lying. it's not an admission of guilt by any means.

I'm well aware, but in light of the Adminstration yammering that they did nothing wrong, having one of the first people brought in to testify to the Senate immediately go for the Fifth sure doesn't help-- any more than Gonzales' claiming he knew nothing about the firings being directly contradicted by his own earlier communications with his staff, and the fact that when the Department turned over their emails, that the three weeks directly preceding the firings were conveniently missing. I must say, Republicans are loyal-- in the wake of Iraq, Katrina and this, the fact that 29 percent still think Georgie is doing a good job is testament to how well they march in lockstep. Believe me, Dems are much more likely to turn on their own- sometimes even when our own are doing a good job. Which, of course, is part of our problem. ;)

Here's more, from balloon-juice's Tim F. Maybe he's channelling DTS in the first paragraph? :) :

<<Centipedes and scandals. Revisit a short vignette that I wrote about a week ago:

I really hate centipedes. Spiders are cool, but there’s something about centipedes that drives me up the wall. So when those long-legged house centipedes show up in my bathroom I don’t want to get close enough to squash them. Instead I hit it with the Tilex spray (active ingredient: bleach). Sensing that it’s ****ed, the centipede runs around like mad for a short while, occasionally jettisoning a twitching leg. I guess the idea is that whatever attacked it will get distracted by the leg long enough to find some kind of shelter. Lizards do this with their tails, but centipedes make a better example because they can dump a decent number of legs in the course of a chase.

Kyle Sampson was the first twitching leg. Monica Goodling clearly jettisoned herself to get a better shake out of her inevitable scapegoating. Who will the White House jettison next?

Meet Deputy Attorney General Thomas McNulty.

The firestorm over the fired U.S. attorneys was sparked last month when a top Justice Department official ignored guidance from the White House and rejected advice from senior administration lawyers over his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The official, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, ignored White House Counsel Harriet Miers and senior lawyers in the Justice Department when he told the committee last month of specific reasons why the administration fired seven U.S. attorneys — and appeared to acknowledge for the first time that politics was behind one dismissal. McNulty’s testimony directly conflicted with the approach Miers advised, according to an unreleased internal White House e-mail described to ABC News. According to that e-mail, sources said, Miers said the administration should take the firm position that it would not comment on personnel issues.

When the Bushies dump the #2 official at DOJ they don’t have very many legs left.>>

Though, on some level, I start to see why Bush tried to get Miers stuffed upstairs to the Supreme Court, since she appears to be pretty deep in this, too.

It's a matter of when, not if, Gonzales is gone.

Until he goes, Gonzales will be the focus of the criticism and attention. That's why we're seeing the bad news trickle out as it has. While he's still around, the WH can control the story a bit better. Once he's gone, the focus turns fully to the WH (Rove, Miers, GWB). As soon as he's of no use to the cause, he'll be gone.

GR,
Since you mentioned me, I'll weigh in.
No, I haven't posted much here lately.
I had a problem with some folks attacking me when I reacted to blatantly racist comments posted here. I was also reminded that this is a "horse racing" board by one of the moderators.
I respected those requests, though not the attacks.
So, back to the "topic" of the thread.

It seems to me that the one invoking the 5th amendment has not been charged with a crime. Precedent establishes that this can only be invoked for such cause. She first needs to answer the subpeona that will be issued, and then respond to questions. Absent of criminal accusation, Ms Goodling has no right to not incriminate herself.
The entire charade is easily seen by those that are capable. When the president states that he wants the American people to know the entire truth, but only within closed doors, without sworn testimony, and without transcript,
it gives the appearance of hiding exactly the same truth that he endorses.

Now I'll again "lurk", as I don't wish to respond to venomous pm's for the blind and bigoted.

Link...
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013272.php

DTS

Ah, the King of Ignorance has spoken.

Like the time you claimed your tax dollars didn't go toward schools because you owned no property.

You were shown wrong then you deleted your post.

Refusing to learn from your mistakes. Spoken like a career desk jockey.

LOL!!! S2S!
The one above you proved my point.
Did not wish to address the topic, only attack ME!:(
Can he again change the topic???
Easy to see.
Yet another failed attempt by the King of Ignorance.
Pathetic.
But very funny.

Let me just say that this is a classic case of why you shouldn't lie.There are moral and religious reasons,but this situation clearly points out why it is the wrong thing to do.


The Truth is so much easier to repeat(time and again.) Keeping track of the details of the lies you told.....AIN'T THAT EASY."

LOL.

To his credit, he is entertaining to a degree. He misstates a fact, denies it, deletes it, posts using 'ignorant,' then wraps it all up so neatly tossing out "moron." Like a freaking good watch, he is reliable.

What pertinent points? The next pertinent point you make will be your first.

More importantly, what is the MCL Lounge?

As an aside, early bird specials are good things.

And 'rolling your eyes' is a very bad habit desk jockies are very susceptible to... too much time spent watching the clock tick off the minutes and seconds.

S2S,
The tactic he uses again and again takes the intelligent discussion away from the topic and, alas, goes to "name calling".
I won't stoop to that. This is one of the reasons that I will not dialogue with this person.
When one is unable to debate the stated topic, personal attacks are the last refuge for the bankrupt.
I "googled" my name and found that his lies have been included in my linkages.
Though I protested this to the moderators, the results of his ablilites to debate have resulted in personal consequences.
Therein, one of the reasons I seldom post here. Also, a very good reason to have this low life banned from this site.

And we see you're proudly quoting Fred Reed these days.

You drive a car? The muffler and rotary engine were invented by women.

Ever been in a boat? The life raft was invented by a woman.

Got any kids? The Apgar test was invented by a woman.

Fred Reed. LOL. You are the answer to the trivia question of who buys the sh1t Fred Reed puts out. Congratulations.

Dammit, Baba! It's TOO. :p

Well, he went from libeling you in his signature line to quoting Fred Reed degrading women. Like I said, he's predictably amusing and you can set your watch by his denials, profanities, abusiveness and excuses ("the moderators asked me to edit that post!!!"). I'm just pissed off there's no MCL Lounge in my neighborhood. He's just a bored, challenged guy with one eye on the clock and the other over his shoulder making sure his supervisor doesn't bust him for surfing the net.

Watch it...that's at least 60% of us I bet.....

LOL. You will son, you will. No wonder you attack a lot of the female posters here. Too much Fred Reed, son.

I was wondering what "My Spizzle" on your post was and clicked on it (with eyes closed). I really didn't understand the whole thing and the half-naked men didn't do anything for me. But to each his own!

The next thing I'm curious about is this:

If someone went through your last 100 posts here how many combined occurences of the words "ignorant" and "moron" would there be?

I'll start the bidding at 50.

S2S,
I don't know if you caught this one about Bush's Monica...
http://ptoday.blogspot.com/2007/03/m...hs-future.html

As far as the taking it "off-topic-guy"...the damage has been done.
Too late for apologies.
Like Bush and his junta, excuses are easy. Regrets are obvious.
As for me...I'll get over it.
As for this once great country...it might take a while.
There's now talk of impeachment, not from the dems, but from the repfugitups...see Hagel and others.
As you might know, I'll bypass the impeachment debate...go directly to Hague, do not pass go...let the war crimes trials begin. The world is watching.
And they already see the bankruptcy of Shrub's administration.
Unfortunately, this time the damage done is far bigger than the stupidity of Babba-a-hole's lunacy.

You guys remind me of school children.

Hey, I'm used to it. I have a 3 year old. Hehe :D

No way! You hit 15 on this thread alone.

sorry teacher. sorry.

S2S,
So as to erase any and all doubts, I am indeed male. How did my gender ever enter into this discussion??? Huh?
Was this again another lame attempt to divert the topic away from the original intention that pgardn presented when he initiated this thread?
Was this yet another failed attempt by an ignorant person to not admit that he had nothing more to offer than character questions?
Are there others that see through the bankruptcy of inane babble so as to avoid speaking to the topic?
Is the water shallow, or just some of those that swim in it?

Me, I'm just having fun, though I agree with you.

You got a right to be pissed off and then some.

sounds good. we'll stick with blaming you.

S2S,
Believe it or not, though I do indeed have reasons to be "pissed", that's not what I'm about. It's more fun to me to call out the absurdities of the ignorant. Afterall, they can't really help it.
Forgiveness of that eventuality demands it.

Here's a quote:
"Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet leaves on the heel that crushed it." ---Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).

May we all learn the wisdom and power within forgiveness.

DTS