First Crop Sleepers
 

Any thoughts on the biggest sleeper for first crop sires this year???? I think Aldebaren will improve his mares the most..............

The Zavata yearlings looked very nice at last years Keeneland sales. They were going for alot more than his stud fee. I will certainly be watching how they fair on the track.

Not a sleeper but overall the Vindication babies were the most impressive looking of all the first crop sires at last years sale.

Hold That Tiger

I wouldn't be surprised if the following sires' stud fees were raised next year...

Harlan's Holiday, Posse, Lightnin N Thunder, and Hook and Ladder.

The Empire Makers can run, but his stud fee is already really high.

I think that the biggest sleeper will be Harlan's Holiday if you correlate his actual stud fee to how good his two year olds look and to how much they are going for in the sales ring.

When does Newfoundland's first crop hit the track?

should be 08 I think...think he stood his first season in 05

A Hold That Tiger won a training race at Aiken early this week. She's a Dogwood filly named Tigeroo. Todd Pletcher will get her at KEE in a few weeks.

Think his babies will do well and story is good to hear. Was a big fan of him in his forays over here as 2 and 3YO and think he could be a sleeper at stud

thanks. I think he should be a quality and "value" sire...

Do you see him as a sleeper, though? I would think that their expectations for him would be fairly high considering he's a half to Editor's Note.

One that I see as a sleeper is Read the Footnotes.

Proud Citizen has the posibility to be a very good first
year sire.

Not a real sleeper but I have about a 1/2 dozen Mineshafts. The ones I have just exude Pure Class. Beautiful movers on the track and as easy as can be to work around.

I think the Harlans Holidays will really make an impact. There has been nothing but great comments on his babies and his stud fee is very reasonable.

I friend of mine rides a Mineshaft filly who she describes as "evil to the core." Of course, if he's the hottest stallion this season I wont be shocked, but he's hardly a "sleeper" when he was the priciest stallion to enter stud his year.

I've seen several of his that I really like too....

I still think he is a sleeper. Cant remember but didnt Editors Note get better as distances stretched out? So I am going on assumption HTT will be a sleeper sire of 2yos. If that makes any sense

Is that the 'noted sire' Editors Note?

Horses that stand for $50000 are usually not considered sleepers.

My sleeper is Desert Warrior.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/desert+warrior
http://thoroughbredtimes.com/stallio...ion_no=5339453

I think that for his $4,000 (?) stud fee, Freefourinternet might be a halfway decent sire.

I'm looking forward to seeing some of them race.

Let me add the following names into the "sleeper" mix:

D'Wildcat, Sunday Break, Trust N Luck, Rock Slide, Van Nistelrooy, Whywhywhy, Cactus Ridge, Decarchy, and Wiseman's Ferry. Even relatively obscure horses like Greatness at Adena-FL might pop up with some good sire numbers.

Of those, I like the chances best of Van Nistelrooy, Whywhywhy, and Decarchy. They have fantastic female taillines.

Of course, it would please me no end if Say Florida Sandy did well as a freshman sire. It would be great for the sport if good-looking hardknockers like him thrived at stud :)

here's some news on Desert Warrior speed...
http://www.nybreds.com/frames/FS_otherpress.html

Off topic but what about Lawrence Roman comments that he will pay people to send suitable mares to Lawrence the Roman. "If it's a mare approved by me, I'd be willing to pay $2,500 to $10,000,". Will this be shown in DRF as a negative stud fee.

i rarely look at the Finger Lakes pps so I dont care

classic.

My side is killing me now.

Thanks alot, now I have Diet Coke all over the keyboards. :D Post of the day for sure!!

waiting for a good thunderello baby..i may be waiting awile:D

Keep riding the Chester House wave

I think it has crested aready

Not for hooves...keeps finding high $ winners

If they're anything like their pops, they'll win a some graded stakes at 45-1 and higher. I don't think his babies start racing until '08 or '09 though..

As a person who trained and at one time owned a part of him, I think that he has virtually no chance to be a good stallion.