Best Sire in the world
 

A bunch of my friends think im crazy but i think Giant's Causeway is the best in the world, his offspring perform on turf or dirt, long or short, i think this guy is a monster sire. They can win first time out, over sloppy tracks anything they just always seem to run good, and with him being such a young sire i think the sky is the limit, i know when i handicap turf races, especially maiden races the first thing i look for is if he has a first timer in the race, because they always seem to run big

hes got sheer nos of starters but id prefer others..

im watching some of his races now on the ashford website, he was as gutsy as they come

The one's I have been around have all been hot, nervous , iron jawed and dumb but Im sure there are nice one's out there. If I were an owner or breeder I would get away from the Storm Cat line, I dont like most of them but thats just me.

I agree, Honu.

Smart Strike...:cool: :cool:

Freaking hilarious... LMAO :D

that whole thing was some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen...:D

My fave. . .

Didn't he sire some rodent named English Channel? HAHAHAHA!!!

J/K :p

AP Indy.
I know it is one of the more obvious choices, but there is a reason for that.

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How many US G-1 dirt racers could fly to England and just lose the most prestigious turf race by a nose? That is what GC accomplished in the BCC.

GC got off plane after 7 consecutive G-1 wins in Europe, on the turf of course, and ran his first dirt race in the BCC...losing by the long nose of Tiznow.

Coolmore bred GC his first years in the US to "any mare with four legs" to recoupe his syndication cost. There were not 191 "carefully selected" mares via conformation,pedigree, etc...only owners w/mares who could pay 300k per pop.

this horse was amazing, might be one of the most underated horses ever, but i think in a few years he will be the best sire we have, if he isent already now

giants causeway? underrated? are you high?

Danzig was until three years ago when he was penison... RIP-2006
He was probably the greatest sire that never had (a chance to have) a great career on track.

My favorite value sires right now are Orientate, Mr. Greeley, Indian Charlie, and Harlan's Holiday.

I also like Malibu Moon a little bit...

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the following sire stud fees increased next year...Lightnin N Thunder, Posse, Hook and Ladder, and Harlan's Holiday.

Oh yeah, and as far as best sire goes...that would have to go to Sadler's Wells.

For the best American sire, I like AP Indy.

For furture successes as a sire...I really like the Empire Makers. I am also looking very forward to seeing what Bernardini produces.

Until he croaks that title should go to Sadler's Wells

have you had any giants causeway's, and if so what do you think of them ?

Nope.

what do you not like about the storm cat line ?

There's too much of it. . .

why is that a bad thing though ? im on the overbrook website looking at storm cat and some of the horses he's sired there are a handful of monsters, i dont understand what the problem is ? i have herd this before about storm cat, and just dont get it

The Storm Cat line is too prevelant. It getting harder and harder to find breeding without it somewhere. Storm Cat has a habit of producing nasty, brittle horses. The good ones are really good. But the bad traits are passed off too.

thats the kind of info i was looking for, thank you.....

Sunday Silence and Danehill are dead

Best sire: A.P. Indy and distorted humor. Most overrated: Kingmambo amd Broad Brush. Most underated: Quiet Am. and silver deputy. Best Future Sire: Bernardini and Ghostzapper. Best broodmare sire: Relaunch and Deputy Minister. Howevever, the best sire in the "world" is Sunday Silence.

i love Sadler's Wells he has produced lots of monsters, but to be the best in the world, in my opinion you need more of a dirt influence.

Dude there aint much Dirt racing in the rest of the world

i think your way off, distorted humor is very good but not one of the best, how is broad brush overrated ?

i realize that, but to be the best sire in the world dont you think that the sire should produce great horses on both surfaces ? thats why i think giants causeway will be the best, if he already isent. i have no problem saying sadler's wells is the best in Ireland

A lot of money

If all else was equal I would choose Distorted Humor over Giants Causeway.

Comparing Giants Causeway and Sadlers Wells is like comparing Eli Manning and Johnny Unitas

im going to stand by that....

By the way I think that Giants Causeway is really a turf sire that occasionally gets a dirt runner. Sadlers Wells is a legendary sire, perhaps the greatest sire ever in Europe. Maybe Giants Causeway can get a fair stakes horse like First Samurai on the Dirt but he is about 10 champions behind Sadlers Wells on the Turf. I believe that you may be attaching yourself to a falling star.