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POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 05:10 PM

Street Sense this saturday at Tampa Bay
 
He will finally run this weekend at tampa bay, and i just want to know what everyones opinion on him is, and how you feel he matches up with any given saturday? my opinion is this horse will have a big year and i think he can beat any given saturday this saturday.

Coach Pants 03-14-2007 05:18 PM

I'm putting $200,000 on his head cause i'm baaaaaaaaaaaaallin!!

IrishofNDMan 03-14-2007 05:19 PM

I'll take Any Given Saturday simply for the fact that he has a race up on Street Sense.

Thunder Gulch 03-14-2007 05:49 PM

No matter what you may think of Street Sense, I think this is clearly a go against spot. No way is he tightened up for this. I can see him getting a piece under ideal trip conditions, but no way at the price.

IrishofNDMan 03-14-2007 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
No matter what you may think of Street Sense, I think this is clearly a go against spot. No way is he tightened up for this. I can see him getting a piece under ideal trip conditions, but no way at the price.

exactly, no way is he ready for this. Any Given Saturday should roll!

Bigsmc 03-14-2007 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
exactly, no way is he ready for this. Any Given Saturday should roll!

Shhhhhhhhhhh. I'm hoping SS gets pounded at the windows.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Shhhhhhhhhhh. I'm hoping SS gets pounded at the windows.

i dont think, he will there has been so much buzz around any given saturday since he ran a big second to tiz wonderful, then he comes back and gets a solid win over the tampa track, i think the value could be with street sense

POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 06:13 PM

i cant see any given saturday being over 6-5, and im thinking 9-5 or 2-1 on street sense, unless there is nothing else at all in the race where in that case you could see any given saturday 3-5 and street sense 6-5

ceejay 03-14-2007 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
He will finally run this weekend at tampa bay, and i just want to know what everyones opinion on him is, and how you feel he matches up with any given saturday? my opinion is this horse will have a big year and i think he can beat any given saturday this saturday.

Stupid question: who else is entered?

POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 06:20 PM

obviously i ment a better value then any given saturday, who do you think the favorite will be ?

randallscott35 03-14-2007 06:23 PM

I wouldn't bet him with your money.

IrishofNDMan 03-14-2007 06:24 PM

I personally would make Any Given Saturday the favorite, but I don't have the power to do so. I think there are a lot of people who will be all over Street Sense, so he will probably be the favorite. I will put a decent win wager on Any Given Saturday and laugh all the way to the bank.

Bigsmc 03-14-2007 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i dont think, he will there has been so much buzz around any given saturday since he ran a big second to tiz wonderful, then he comes back and gets a solid win over the tampa track, i think the value could be with street sense


Check the past threads. A majority on here were underwhelmed with AGS's Sam Davis (I'm not one of them, I thought he did exactly what Pletcher wanted him to do). He basically beat an N1X field.

There will be no value on the returning BC Juvy winner who won the race by record lengths and the horses that finished behind him have flattered him with their recent results.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 06:24 PM

im not even sure if im betting him, but if i do bet the race im betting him and not any given saturday, whens the last time the bc juvenile champ returned to racing and was not favored in that spot ?

POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I personally would make Any Given Saturday the favorite, but I don't have the power to do so. I think there are a lot of people who will be all over Street Sense, so he will probably be the favorite. I will put a decent win wager on Any Given Saturday and laugh all the way to the bank.

well if he's favored i wont be betting, but i disagree i think any given saturday will be favored

Bigsmc 03-14-2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceejay
Stupid question: who else is entered?

Entries drawn tomorrow, but from what I have seen, nobody of note and it will probably be a smallish field.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-14-2007 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Honestly I don't know who will be favored and don't really care who is because I don't see value on either. Look I really like Street Sense a lot and hope he comes back good. But at what will be 2-1 or lower, I see no value at all. He's been off too long and I am 100% positive he is nowhere near fully cranked for this. Any Given Saturday will probably be the favorite and should win but I'm going to take a pass at the odds.

ok fair enough

Merlinsky 03-14-2007 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
No matter what you may think of Street Sense, I think this is clearly a go against spot. No way is he tightened up for this. I can see him getting a piece under ideal trip conditions, but no way at the price.

Actually what I've been reading is Nafzger's been trying to keep Street Sense from getting too tight. The word was that they feared him being so close to peaking after the Breeders' Cup that they've been on eggshells the last couple months. If he was at 100% from now til the Derby he'd have to be something extraordinary to keep it up without getting hurt.

robfla 03-14-2007 06:51 PM

nafzger had a real good one before. his best races were the biggest races - the fla derby, ky derby. and bc classic. he didnt win the preps. this is a prep. what was his name?

brianwspencer 03-14-2007 07:23 PM

oh rob, thanks for posting that.

amazing when you look at his preps -- he ran four times in the two months culminating with the derby. unheard of!

zippyneedsawin 03-14-2007 07:40 PM

I'm stealing this from another post, but this is what Nafzger said:

Street Sense
“At the moment the timing is good for the Tampa Bay Derby. That gives us almost four weeks to adjust if necessary. Right now I'm not as interested in where he finishes in his first start back as how he finishes. Although when we get to the Blue Grass [GI, Keeneland, Apr. 14], he's got to be there even if he doesn't win.” ” trainer Carl Nafzger told Daily Racing Form.


Personally, I think Street Sense will be the favorite... by way more than he should.

todko 03-15-2007 02:15 AM

Not a betting race for me. Don't see any reason why Street Sense won't romp here. Any Given Saturday's last out wasn't that great. A talented horse could come back and beat that.

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