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hoovesupsideyourhead 03-07-2007 06:15 AM

the worst jockeys ever
 
mike smith

any meche brother

chantal..

iggy puglisi

shane sellers.........

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-07-2007 06:21 AM

Deodat Singh - from the mid to late eightes on the NYRA circuit.

Byebyemermaid 03-07-2007 06:25 AM

Dennis Cayo.It seems this jock has been around forever.

Indian Charlie 03-07-2007 07:47 AM

the fridge

robfla 03-07-2007 08:05 AM

gary bain

Payson Dave 03-07-2007 08:09 AM

He may not belong on a worst ever list...but Rudy Rodreguez(?sp) has never been one of my go to guys....

Is Dale Beckner still riding...he had a great Saratoga meet as a bug boy but went downhill fast afterwards

cakes44 03-07-2007 08:19 AM

1. mike luzzi
2. jose valdivia
3. jose espinoza
4. tyler baze
5. manoel cruz last Saturday

moke0043 03-07-2007 08:31 AM

Eddie Martin JR.

brianwspencer 03-07-2007 08:34 AM

Darlene Braden.

She always goes like zero for ten billion.

At Portland Meadows....

phystech 03-07-2007 08:46 AM

In MD - Frank Douglas

Couldn't ride a bicycle.

The Bid 03-07-2007 08:56 AM

Punchie Gohberdahn

Yanksba1 03-07-2007 09:14 AM

Worst Jockey the last year
 
Jorge Chavez, at monmouth last summer, we called him Rip Van Winkle, because it literally looked like he was falling asleep when he got on the horse in the paddock.

NTamm1215 03-07-2007 09:17 AM

Some of the Illinois folks might be able to elaborate, but I think Uriel Lopez might be the worst rider in the history of the game. I've never seen a guy go unnecessarily wide that often. That's why he's usually about 2 for 76 after a couple of weeks.

Also, I think it was 1999, but Inosencio Diego was still a bug and he went 0 for Saratoga with something like 90 mounts I think. I'm not saying he was one of the worst jockeys ever, that was just one of the worst meets ever. It definitely deserves mentioning in a topic based on futility.

NT

saucon17 03-07-2007 09:41 AM

Clive Beetch at the Finger

Billy Wilson at the Mountain

Thunder Gulch 03-07-2007 09:43 AM

Ronnie Franklin

ArlJim78 03-07-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Some of the Illinois folks might be able to elaborate, but I think Uriel Lopez might be the worst rider in the history of the game. I've never seen a guy go unnecessarily wide that often. That's why he's usually about 2 for 76 after a couple of weeks.

Also, I think it was 1999, but Inosencio Diego was still a bug and he went 0 for Saratoga with something like 90 mounts I think. I'm not saying he was one of the worst jockeys ever, that was just one of the worst meets ever. It definitely deserves mentioning in a topic based on futility.

NT

He surely makes my list of worst riders. Totally ineffective, seems to not have a clue about how to work out a trip. The thing is he will occasionally have live mounts but he is very adept at keeping them out of the winners circle.

Pedigree Ann 03-07-2007 10:04 AM

Tony Farina. We at my other board figured he must have pictures of Biancone with an owner's wife or something of that sort. Otherwise there was no way to explain why he kept putting this guy up on good horses.

saucon17 03-07-2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
He surely makes my list of worst riders. Totally ineffective, seems to not have a clue about how to work out a trip. The thing is he will occasionally have live mounts but he is very adept at keeping them out of the winners circle.

He's on my good jockey list for a little while after riding a $20
winner for me last week in the 1st race at the Thorne

saucon17 03-07-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Tony Farina. We at my other board figured he must have pictures of Biancone with an owner's wife or something of that sort. Otherwise there was no way to explain why he kept putting this guy up on good horses.

Another good one, did he end the career of Pincay after he came over
on him in turf race in So. Cali. and dropped Pincay.

KirisClown 03-07-2007 10:28 AM

Phil Teator

Donna Barton

zippyneedsawin 03-07-2007 10:59 AM

Kent D., I just don't trust him on any of his mounts these days.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-07-2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave
He may not belong on a worst ever list...but Rudy Rodreguez(?sp) has never been one of my go to guys....

Is Dale Beckner still riding...he had a great Saratoga meet as a bug boy but went downhill fast afterwards

He's number 2 on mine!

Swale84 03-07-2007 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44
1. mike luzzi
2. jose valdivia
3. jose espinoza
4. tyler baze
5. manoel cruz last Saturday

Not sure if he is one of the worst jocks ever, but Jose Espinoza is one of the worst on the NYRA circuit now

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-07-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Swale84
Not sure if he is one of the worst jocks ever, but Jose Espinoza is one of the worst on the NYRA circuit now

I've had him at a price on the turf in the past...there are a lot worst than him right now @ the Big A.

Payson Dave 03-07-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I've had him at a price on the turf in the past...there are a lot worst than him right now @ the Big A.

I completely agree... had him at 100 to 1 on a Scott Everett horse at the Spa a few meets ago...NY Bred on the weeds third off the layoff. Scott told me a week in advance to watch for the horse

ArlJim78 03-07-2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
He's on my good jockey list for a little while after riding a $20
winner for me last week in the 1st race at the Thorne

I predict a short-lived stay on that list.

Its the kiss of death for me if I like the horse and then I see Lopez has the mount? I want to immediately toss him but I know there does exist the possibility that one of these days a horse will drag him to the line first despite his best efforts.

brianwspencer 03-07-2007 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I predict a short-lived stay on that list.

Its the kiss of death for me if I like the horse and then I see Lopez has the mount? I want to immediately toss him but I know there does exist the possibility that one of these days a horse will drag him to the line first despite his best efforts.

clean out your inbox, fool.

ArlJim78 03-07-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
clean out your inbox, fool.

okay, sheez. some people!

Swale84 03-07-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I've had him at a price on the turf in the past...there are a lot worst than him right now @ the Big A.

Sad, but true there are jocks worse than Espinoza at Aquesduct this winter. But over the past two years in 647 starts he has had only 32 wins.

Habersham000 03-07-2007 12:03 PM

The worst by far has to be Martin Escobar, he is god awful...after him has to be Mike Smith.

Cannon Shell 03-07-2007 12:42 PM

Filiberto Leon-much better cook
Taylor Hole-barred for life

declansharbor 03-07-2007 01:07 PM

I have never seen a jockey put other riders in as much danger as Miss Chantal Sutherland....Wow, shes ceases to amaze me with some of the rides that she gives..If i notice it, how dont these trainers, that opt to put her on their charges...

Bigsmc 03-07-2007 01:08 PM

Don't think there is enough bandwidth here to fit my list. Since I play Tampa every day, I can start there with my bottom five in no particular order:

Liz Cedeno
Craig Faine
Walter Llagas
Roger Moore
Tom Foley

I could go on and on...

Any of those five could wear the crown of worst ever.

bigrun 03-07-2007 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Don't think there is enough bandwidth here to fit my list. Since I play Tampa every day, I can start there with my bottom five in no particular order:

Liz Cedeno
Craig Faine
Walter Llagas
Roger Moore
Tom Foley

I could go on and on...

Any of those five could wear the crown of worst ever.


I hate Joe Bravo, can't win with him or against..Wish he'd retire and join Pat waitallDay....

bigrun 03-07-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
I have never seen a jockey put other riders in as much danger as Miss Chantal Sutherland....Wow, shes ceases to amaze me with some of the rides that she gives..If i notice it, how dont these trainers, that opt to put her on their charges...


Yeah, but she's a great looker, should go into modeling full time.....

MisterB 03-07-2007 01:29 PM

Eddie Arcaro, rode 250 losers before finally winning a race, however, he recovered pretty good winning 4778 more after that

:)

declansharbor 03-07-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun
Yeah, but she's a great looker, should go into modeling full time.....

I know..I was astounded by her beauty when I saw her at Philly pARK.. it was then i realized the trainers were probably trying to throw it in her...how else could you explain her getting mounts??

Thoroughbred Fan 03-07-2007 01:46 PM

The worst jockey ever is....................1982 Eclipse Award Winning Apprentice Jockey Alberto Delgado, but I am biased. He screwed us once when he was our jockey at a time much later in his life. I think he averages about 100 mounts a year. I think he was struggling to pay his rent. He shouldn't be screwing anyone he works for....PERIOD. That midget, who by the way is bigger than the trainer we had at the time, rode the first two races at Laurel then left before our race.

He only informed the trainer in the Paddock before the first race. The trainer was so pissed he didn't have words. Apparently he had committed to another evening mount at Penn National???? He was our regular exercise jockey in MD and I had personally spoken to him every morning about the upcoming race. He failed to mention the Penn thing on any of the mornings he spoke to me or the trainer. So while the second is being run the trainer informed us of the jockey's new priorities.

The trainer said to "give him an ear full" when he got off his mount after the second. My partners and I gave it to him from the moment he got off the horse, until he was in the jocks room. Needless to say, he neither exercised our horses or rode them ever again.

Therefore, I have sour grapes and he is the worst jockey of all time.

Payson Dave 03-07-2007 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Filiberto Leon-much better cook
Taylor Hole-barred for life

Wasn't it Filberto Leon who was involved in and/or caused the bad spill that busted up Julie Krone at Saratoga several years back??


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