Scooter: Guilty of 4 of 5
 

The jury has reached their verdict.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...4066F8EE890%7D

Same story, different link...Bush will be keeping Cheney at arms length till end of his term, which is 619 days....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/?GT1=9145

I agree that Cheney will be out of the spotlight for a while.
Now, two questions...
Appeal will be filed, and the "stall" will go on. Libby is looking at 4-5 years.
I don't think he'll flip. So, do you think Bush will grant a pardon?
If he does, do you think it will damage the Repubs in future elections?

Here's how it was reported in the Guardian (UK). Last paragraph is worth the read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2027899,00.html

Sentencing in June..With appeals could go on forever...No reason for him to flip now, too late..Maybe this guilt of the Office of the VP plus the thrombosis of the VP himself will result in a resignation for health reasons, leaving Nancy "a heart-beat away"...Talk of a pardon has been on-going thru the trial, but i don't think so..Dumya Bush in deep schit now, no need to dig deeper...Watch Hardball tonite, he's on the warpath looking for more scalps.

You could be correct. Bush has "party loyalty", and a pardon will be problematic. Don't expect much from Tony Snow (job) at the next press conf.
either..."There's an ongoing legal action and I can't comment."
Matthews smells blood. Should be interesting.

Yeah, i love Tony Snowjob, perfect man for that job..So smooth i almost believe him...lol....Quite a contrast from that stiff before him......btw, Olberman has Joe Wilson on tonite...

Thanks for the tip about Olberman. Thought he was on vacation.
I'm guessing the Bushies would like to see Anna Nicole dug up so her story could dominate the "news" again for a while, at least until the heat dies down.
I saw that "Faux News" had about 50 stories about her, one on Libby.
Dubbya said something interesting this AM in his speech to the VFW...
He called Iraq a "shituation". No kidding.

Nah, you're schittin me, he didn't say that...Why am i questioning that, i have a ton of his quotes, most dumber than that one......lol...

Bigrun, I almost spit my coffee when he said that. It won't be in the transcript but if you can find a video...LOL!

Now, here's an article that poses some real questions. Look for the US press to avoid investigating Italy and making any connects.
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0306-38.htm

'Now maybe special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald and what passes for journalists in the mainstream media can get down to the real business of finding out just why the entire White House smear operation was unleashed upon a minor state department official and why they went so far as to violate federal law and expose his CIA-operative wife, Valerie Plame, in the process destroying her entire network of contacts for monitoring the spread of nuclear weapons in the Middle East'

Hardball has been on that very issue for at least two years, wants to know the reasons and the persons responsible for going to war in Iraq....I've been waiting longer....

Bigrun,
Don't expect Fitzgerald to continue. He's already said that he's done.
Now watch for others that are heard to ask the questions.
Forbes put this out...
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3490365.html

Cheney is the target now.
Either he will step down due to serious "health" issues or duck from the answers that he needs to give.
We'll see.

And no, I don't plan any "hunting trips" with him. He's pulled the trigger on his buddies. Now it's time for him to get a face full.
BANG!!

Follow up. This is unconfirmed. I found it at a diff site and just share it.

(CNN) March 6, 2007 435pm EST

Aides for Vice President Cheney said today he is considering resigning from office. Cheney told Bush because of Libby's Scooter's conviction, Cheney was involved in the scandal. It was not know if Bush would pardon Cheney and Scooter. This is another scandal rocking the white house and some experts feel President Bush may leave office before 2009.

LOL, i posted this at another forum...One guy replied and called me a tease..
Hey, you watching Hardball, he had Roussert and Matt Brown on....

Aren't they a Machiavellian bunch.

Rush L has made his spin..."It's good for Conservatives"...I'll try to find the link.
Now Billo, "fair and balanced" as always gives out this...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257326,00.html

Hey Bill...explain pulleeeezzzze???? Scooter=Ken Starr, Paula Jones?????
HUH???

Rush spin...very funny!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/0...-_n_42849.html

He should. The notes that he wrote on some of the White House memo's are... not good at all. The VP is not supposed to be transfixed with this kind of crapola when a war is going on. Bad stuff. Cheney has done himself (and the country) no service with those little notes he wrote in.

pgardn,
I agree.
Do you remember how we got into this war?
Suffer those that died for the lies, and those that sustained wounds and lack of care. The mantra has been "support our troops". I do.
The fabricators are the ones I could do without.
Do you think a pardon is in order?
Do you think there should be an investigation into Halliburton's no-bid contracts and who might have arranged for them?
Loyal Americans await answers, as they should.

The pardon is already being floated.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...adlines-nation

Here's another..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17488924/


Hey, love the O'rielly spin job...He's the master...fair and balanced my arse.
Also Limbaughcheese was funny.....

Good you got a giggle. To me, in a way, it's really not all that funny.
These people are serious. Too many are influenced by their spin.
They are complicit in selling the current circumstances.

On a side note, I like your Teddy Roosevelt quote in your tag. I wish more people could understand what it means.

Bigrun,
The photo at the top of the link says it all, Pardoners-in-chiefs.
Clinton for Marc Rich, and Ford for you-know-who.
Justice denied. Maybe Dubya will add his name to the hall of shame.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17488924/

More questions...
http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2007/03/07/cq_2372.html

I posted that link at another forum....Did you happen to catch Hardball, he and Kate O'Bierne went toe to toe on Libby...She's one dedicated rightie...He had one of the jurors on, sharp gal....catch it later if you missed it....

Hey stretch...
 

Thought you might get a kick out of this...A guy from another forum posted this...Don't know where he gets his stuff but this guy has a million of them.

Pardon Me! -- The Pardon Resource Center

Welcome to the federal section of "Pardon Me!" the Pardon Resource Center of the World Wide Web.

Each year the President of the United States pardons a turkey before Thanksgiving at a White House ceremony. In 2006, President Bush gave two turkeys named Flyer and Fryer a last-minute reprieve. The two hailed from Monett, Missouri. For the fourth time, the American public was allowed to vote for the turkeys' names on the White House web site. 2005's turkeys were named Marshmallow and Yam; 2004's were named Biscuit and Gravy; and 2003's were Stars and Stripes.

In a surprise announcement by President George W. Bush, this year, in lieu of a turkey, Lewis "Scooter" Libby will be pardoned. Libby, who had been indicted on five felony counts for perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice, and one misdemeanor charge involving an altercation with two lesbian cheerleaders, said "Yeah. Like I didn't see that one coming." President Bush stated that he had decided to pardon Libby, preempting Thanksgiving, in order that "the nation can get back to its real business," declining to elaborate on what that business is other than to hint it includes "reapportionment of capital from the less to the more deserving, as determined by wealth".

"We got to erode this culture of persecution," said President Bush, who wore a symbolic black and white "prison stripes" outfit for the occasion of the announcement this morning in the White House Rose Garden. "I'm starting with a blanket pardon for Scooter Libby, who I know is a real hard worker and who probably didn't do anything wrong, and if he did, I'm sure he's learned his lesson and I'm going to forgive him and the American people should."

Libby's pardon raised the hackles of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who led the two-year investigation that resulted in Libby's indictment.

"It's complete horse ****," said the blunt-spoken prosecutor, "but frankly, I would have been more surprised if the lying rat-bastard brown-noser didn't get off the hook. At least the Chicago criminals have a little dignity."

A team of Republican senators led by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is now attempting to have Patrick Fitzgerald arrested for "sustained harassment and pestering" of Mr. Libby. A civil suit has also been filed against the special prosecutor by lawyers for Mr. Libby seeking damages for "emotional stress and foot trauma" associated with the exposure and subsequent reprinting of Mr. Libby's widely derided fictional novel, The Apprentice.

Libby's novel, which he claims is not autobiographical, features incest, and a hunter who considers whether to engage in an act of bestial necrophilia with a freshly killed deer before it gets cold.

"It's not the pure pulp you'd expect from a hack like Bill O'Reilly," says Libby, "although both of us are admittedly experts at creating and sustaining fictional scenarios. That's the nature of our work."

Happy Thanksgiving Scooter.

stretch, here's another..
 

funny post..

Facing EPIDEMIC Proportions... New Sexually Transmitted Disease

BEWARE!

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of Sexually Transmitted Disease. The disease is contracted through dangerous and high-risk behavior.

The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim and pronounced "gonna re-elect him."
Many victims contracted it in 2004, after having been screwed for the past four years. Cognitive characteristics of individuals infected include:
anti-social personality disorders, delusions of grandeur with messianic overtones, extreme cognitive dissonance, inability to incorporate new information, pronounced xenophobia and paranoia, inability to accept responsibility for own actions, cowardice masked by misplaced bravado, uncontrolled facial smirking, ignorance of geography and history, tendencies towards evangelical theocracy, categorical all-or-nothing behavior.

Naturalists and epidemiologists are amazed at how this destructive disease originated only a few years ago from a bush found in Texas.

Be sure and wash your hands after you vote!

Very funny Bigrun!
I was looking for a pic of Ann C with the Sanchez "guy" to post.
Talk about timing...makes for good comedy.

Bigrun,
Here ya go...Ann and her 11 inch friend.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/48944/

Liked that one..

On my other forum there are a few out of control posters that like to use name calling....One of the 'good' guys wrote this about namecalling...

The process of name-calling is typically based upon feeling not OK, and name-callers are trying to make themselves feel more powerful by using the process. If I call you a name and get you upset, then I temporarily feel more powerful because I had a powerful effect upon you. My self-esteem rises at your expense. I project my unhappiness on to you and you take it on if you allow yourself to be upset. If you do not get upset at my attempt, then I cannot dump my original unhappiness on you. Then I am left not only with my failure to successfully dump it on you but also with my original unhappiness to boot. Thus, if you're successful at being unbothered by my words, then I wind up more unhappy; and I'll probably quickly stop those words. This is a key element to understand, that name-callers will usually feel worse if you do not react to their name-calling.

Someone call you "liberal scumbag" or "fukkin moron"? Whenever you hear such a name directed your way, thoughts along the lines of, "The name-caller is feeling weak right now." Another useful self-thought is, "Whatever people say about me says nothing about me but a lot about them."

Here's another funny comment, from one of the posters on balloon-juice:

"The only thing that Libby is guilt of is being a patriot.

Bush should pardon Libby immediately, award him a Medal of Freedom, and then appoint him governor of some state. And a good one like Oregon, not one of those shitty Dakotas.

The real criminal here is Joe Wilson, who emboldened the terrorists by reporting “the truth.” Real Americans know to make sh*t up to help the cause."

Oregon? No way. Way too cool for Scooter.

Come on, they don't have sales tax -- ie coolest state evar.