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videogirl10 06-20-2006 10:06 PM

getting a job at a track
 
i may be moving close to lexington in the next couple of months. i was wondering how difficult it was to get a job working at a track..like being an outrider, gate attendent..etc. i really would like to get in with the track, b/c that would be my dream job.

sumitas 06-20-2006 10:21 PM

best of luck to you. as a suggestion, consider the tracks in Canada. at least you'll have national health coverage up there. i don't think you'll have any health coverage at most jobs at the tracks in the USA.

Hoisttheflag 06-20-2006 10:24 PM

The jobs you are talking about are nearly impossible to get in KY. You really are looking at hotwalker/groom jobs and working your way up if you want to work in the horse business in KY. You might be able to find some work as an exercise rider too.

videogirl10 06-20-2006 10:37 PM

that would be great, i would really like to do exercise riding.

eurobounce 06-21-2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10
that would be great, i would really like to do exercise riding.

Yeah you have to be buddies with a person that has the ability to hire. Jobs at the track that u can get are maintenance (the person that sweeps up the losing tickets). But Keeneland it is hard to get a job because they are only open 8 weeks of the year.

Exceller 06-21-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Yeah you have to be buddies with a person that has the ability to hire. Jobs at the track that u can get are maintenance (the person that sweeps up the losing tickets). But Keeneland it is hard to get a job because they are only open 8 weeks of the year.

There are jobs on the farms in Lexington too. You might want to try heading up to Saratoga for the summer and hooking on with a KY trainer.

GPK 06-21-2006 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
There are jobs on the farms in Lexington too. You might want to try heading up to Saratoga for the summer and hooking on with a KY trainer.


thats it...maybe I will get me a side gig at one of the Colonial Downs OTB's...
I can be a teller...I can see it now someone hands me a winning ticket...

"$500 winner??? wow...GFY...this is MY money now...NEXT IN LINE PLEASE.":D

2MinsToPost 06-21-2006 09:46 AM

Here in Central Ohio if one is willing they can get a job right now at Scioto Downs as a "helper" of sorts, more or less cleaning stalls, etc.. In August there are opportunities abound at the most scenic track in America (:eek: ) Beulah Park. All one has to do is show up at 4am at the gate and someone will most likely put you to work in no time.

If you consider working as a Teller, let me offer you this piece of advice. The next Saturday you have an hour or so to spare in the afternoon, go to your local otb parlor, track etc and just hang around and watch the interaction between the bettors and the tellers. Coming from someone who has been a teller before, the job requires PATIENCE and the ability to shrug off rude behavior unlike what you might have seen before. Also, you have to be quick with the numeric pad of course. If by chance you are a female, you just might make some very nice tips. My ugly butt couldn't get a smile:D

Good luck whatever you pursue!

Buffymommy 06-21-2006 10:22 AM

It is a hard life and hard to get. Most places start you as a Hotwalker/groom type person unless ya know someone who knows someone. Pay isn't great to start and it is most of the time from what I understand a 7 day a week job. I haven't heard from my friend in about a month now who headed from FL to NJ following jobs.

Good Luck in your job hunting.

dellinger63 06-21-2006 12:27 PM

depends how cute you are. I've noticed Pletcher, Lukas etc have stumbled onto some very good looking grooms and assistants. I'd suggest a pushup bra, tight jeans and a willingness to learn might be all that is needed.

Buffymommy 06-21-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
depends how cute you are. I've noticed Pletcher, Lukas etc have stumbled onto some very good looking grooms and assistants. I'd suggest a pushup bra, tight jeans and a willingness to learn might be all that is needed.


OK, that made me laugh out loud!

kentuckyrosesinmay 06-21-2006 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
depends how cute you are. I've noticed Pletcher, Lukas etc have stumbled onto some very good looking grooms and assistants. I'd suggest a pushup bra, tight jeans and a willingness to learn might be all that is needed.

Huh...I might have to try that one. LOL!

No really, I probably won't have to. I'm going to the new jockey academy in Kentucky, and with it comes an internship. I hope that makes my start in racing easier...well, it should.

Buffymommy 06-21-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Huh...I might have to try that one. LOL!

No really, I probably won't have to. I'm going to the new jockey academy in Kentucky, and with it comes an internship. I hope that makes my start in racing easier...well, it should.


OH You must take pics and fill us in on how things are going when you get a chance. You must be so excited! When do you go?

GPK 06-21-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
GPK - are you in Virginia near Colonial Downs?

I live in Kitty Hawk, NC for the next week, then I am moving back to Yorktown, VA. Takes me about 40 minutes to get to Colonial Downs up in New Kent from where I will be living.

You in that area?

Buffymommy 06-21-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I live in Kitty Hawk, NC for the next week, then I am moving back to Yorktown, VA. Takes me about 40 minutes to get to Colonial Downs up in New Kent from where I will be living.

You in that area?


Things working out dude?

GPK 06-21-2006 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
Yeah - I work about 3 minutes from Yorktown and live in Newport News. We take a trip each year to Ocracoke Island so I know where Kittyhawk is as well. We went to Colonial for live racing on the 17th and had good results.

Dude....I was there on Saturday.

I was born and raised in Hampton. Moved to York County as a teenager. Graduated from Tabb H.S. in 1990.

GPK 06-21-2006 03:02 PM

You from the area originally?

disappearingdan_akaplaya 06-21-2006 03:24 PM

well video i wish you the best of luck as well as you jessica if you both are seriously gonna follow through with a career in the sport! if you have no luck in KY video or wherever you try contact me and i can try and get you started on the backside here in chicago


john

videogirl10 06-21-2006 06:15 PM

i would definatly love that. i will keep you updated. what do you do at the track?

Blue Eyes 06-21-2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10
that would be great, i would really like to do exercise riding.

Videogirl, how old are you? Do you have experience riding or grooming racehorses? If not, I would recommend getting a job on a farm in Lexington. Tell your potential employer what you are looking for. Tell them you are interested in galloping horses. If you have never done it, starting from the ground up is the best way to go. Learn about the legs and how to groom a racehorse properly, then eventually learn to gallop. Watch out for people that will "help" you but are looking for their "pay back." DO NOT GO TO CHICAGO!! Arlington is a beautiful racetrack, but it is no place for a young woman getting into the business. It is a dangerous backside.
The only down side to living in Lexington is the 8 weeks of racing that is there. That's it. But there are the sales to work and that is always something to consider if you're looking for experience and quick cash.

Blue Eyes 06-21-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
depends how cute you are. I've noticed Pletcher, Lukas etc have stumbled onto some very good looking grooms and assistants. I'd suggest a pushup bra, tight jeans and a willingness to learn might be all that is needed.


That does work.:p

Blue Eyes 06-21-2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Huh...I might have to try that one. LOL!

No really, I probably won't have to. I'm going to the new jockey academy in Kentucky, and with it comes an internship. I hope that makes my start in racing easier...well, it should.

KRIM, what is the cost for this school? Is this the one McCarron is running at the Horse Park? How long is the schooling? I am a little skeptical of it, so you will need to keep us posted about it.

boldruler 06-21-2006 07:27 PM

I have a friend who is in the business in Lexington, KY. He told me to tell you that the best way to get into the business if you have zero experience is through the program at Central Florida Community College. He said it is easier to get a good job in Ocala,FL where he sometimes works than in Lexington, KY, where it is very competitive.

Here is the link to the program. You might want to look into it. I often wished I worked on a farm instead of working in an office in NY.

http://www.gocfcc.com/programs/equine_studies.htm

There is also a certificate program.

http://www.gocfcc.com/programs/equinecert.htm

paisjpq 06-21-2006 07:50 PM

if you want in on a farm in KY--learning how to prep yearlings or starting yearlings etc. which can segway into a track job if that is what you want--look into the Kentucky Equine Management Internship (www.KEMI.org ) --no other program except perhaps Darley's Flying Start will give you as much opportunity to work and make valuable contacts in the Lexington area.

videogirl10 06-21-2006 08:47 PM

i am 25. i do not have experience with racehorses but i have ridden my whole life. i do know there is a difference. i would just like to get into the business somehow, and i do not mind working at a farm. i wouldn't care to just muck out stalls, just so i can be around the track/farm. i live in southwest va now, so there isn't really anything close by...if there is, can anyone give me a heads up....

oh off topic, does anyone know david doane...he is a breeder that lives in jonesborough, tn. i think in 2000, he bred the NY 2 year old of the year...le grande dansier (sp?) does anyone know where that horse is or has heard of david. i think he was going to breed his mare back to skip away the next year, but i lost touch.

thanks everyone for their help!

kentuckyrosesinmay 06-21-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
OH You must take pics and fill us in on how things are going when you get a chance. You must be so excited! When do you go?

If I get accepted, I will go after I graduate from my current college next May, and move to Kentucky during the summer, and then start the classes in the fall of next year. It is going to be so awesome! It is all I can do to keep myself from taking off this fall!

Cajungator26 06-21-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10
i am 25. i do not have experience with racehorses but i have ridden my whole life. i do know there is a difference. i would just like to get into the business somehow, and i do not mind working at a farm. i wouldn't care to just muck out stalls, just so i can be around the track/farm. i live in southwest va now, so there isn't really anything close by...if there is, can anyone give me a heads up....

oh off topic, does anyone know david doane...he is a breeder that lives in jonesborough, tn. i think in 2000, he bred the NY 2 year old of the year...le grande dansier (sp?) does anyone know where that horse is or has heard of david. i think he was going to breed his mare back to skip away the next year, but i lost touch.

thanks everyone for their help!

Le Grande Danseur was by Citidancer. He now stands in New Mexico for $1,500. Not sure about David Doane, although he would be 84 years old now, wouldn't he? I remember he was in his late 70's or early 80's.

kentuckyrosesinmay 06-21-2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Eyes
KRIM, what is the cost for this school? Is this the one McCarron is running at the Horse Park? How long is the schooling? I am a little skeptical of it, so you will need to keep us posted about it.

Yes, McCarron is the one. It looks very legit. I am going to give it a year to get started before I attend to make sure it is everything that I think it is going to be. If not, I'm heading off to the racehorse program in Louisville. You will spend 18 months in the class, and a year in an internship. They have a great website up that tells you everything you need to know. I contacted them yesterday about it, and asked them to send me as much information as possible on it. They sure look like they are doing everything right. Check out the curriculum, and the frequently asked questions section.
Oh yeah, it costs 3300 to 3600 per semester, which I think is fair based on the cost of the facility we will be using, and the costs of keeping up the horses.

We will spend six days a week, eight hours a day learning how to take care of and ride Thoroughbreds.

One hour-mechanical horse
three hours-chores
one hour-exercising two racehorses
three hours-classroom work

They are trying to simulate exactly how it will be when working under a real trainer. Personally, I think the school is going to be great and is really going to work. Why wouldn't it work? It has worked in every other country.

http://nara.kctcs.edu/index.cfm

Suffolk Shippers 06-21-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
depends how cute you are. I've noticed Pletcher, Lukas etc have stumbled onto some very good looking grooms and assistants. I'd suggest a pushup bra, tight jeans and a willingness to learn might be all that is needed.

Lucas is like the 68 yr old science teacher you had in high school who sat all the hot chicks up front and "accidently" dropped his pencil...

1st_Saturday_in_May 06-21-2006 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
Lucas is like the 68 yr old science teacher you had in high school who sat all the hot chicks up front and "accidently" dropped his pencil...

LOL, I had the thirty year old social studies teacher in 7th grade who just had to always have the window open during the cold of winter and he just so happened to have all of the "developed" girls sitting right by the window...hmmmm

videogirl10 06-21-2006 10:49 PM

i am sure david is up there in age. he was quite old when i met him, my mom showed dalmatians and knew them through that...they were really nice, and had a great start it seemed in breeding...i am not sure what they have had since then.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 06-21-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10
i would definatly love that. i will keep you updated. what do you do at the track?

i own a racehorse and i help pick out horses to claim for some of my trainers other clients

DiscreetCat=Monster 06-22-2006 01:23 AM

Show a little SKIN!!! That the only chance in the corporate thoroughbred world you got LMAO!!!!:D :D

GPK 06-22-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
I graduated from Kecoughtan in 1990. Played football against Kirby and Slade in 1989. I was born in Hampton.

I went to Bethel my 10th grade year before going to Tabb. Never knew Terry that well, but Chris was a friend and hands down the nicest guy you will ever meet. Even after all those years with the Patriots he will still come home and be the same old Chris.

Do you go to the Hampton OTB much? I'm undecided between there or actually going to New Kent and watch them live.

GPK 06-22-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
I graduated from Kecoughtan in 1990. Played football against Kirby and Slade in 1989. I was born in Hampton.

You play any baseball growing up? I was in the Northampton Little League.

GPK 06-22-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT
I graduated from Kecoughtan in 1990, played football against Kirby and Slade in 1989. Born in Hampton.

There an echo in here???:D


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