Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112
 

BEL Belmont S (G1): American Pharoah 105 (Pioneerof the Nile) B. Baffert/V. Espinoza
BEL Metropolitan H (G1): Honor Code 112 (A.P. Indy) C. McGaughey/J. Castellano
BEL Manhattan S (G1): Slumber-GB 106 (Cacique-IRE) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
BEL Ogden Phipps S (G1): Wedding Toast 102 (Street Sense) K. McLaughlin/J. Lezcano
BEL Acorn S (G1): Curalina 92 (Curlin) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
BEL Just a Game S (G1): Tepin 101 (Bernstein) M. Casse/J. Leparoux
BEL Woody Stephens S (G2): March 95 (Blame) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
BEL Brooklyn S (G2): Coach Inge 102 (Big Brown) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
BEL Jaipur S (G3): Channel Marker 99 (Purim) P. Bauer/F. Torres
BEL New York S (G2): Waltzing Matilda-IRE 92 (Danehill Dancer-IRE) T. Stack/J. Alvarado
BEL True North S (G2): Rock Fall 110 (Speightstown) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano
BEL Belmont Gold Cup S: Innovation Economy 98 (Dynaformer) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
BEL Tremont S: Cocked and Loaded 79 (Colonel John) L. Rivelli/I. Ortiz
BEL Astoria S: Moment Is Right 70 (Medaglia d'Oro) W. Ward/J. Rosario
BEL Intercontinental S: Zindaya 95 (More Than Ready) C. Clement/M. Franco
BEL Jersey Girl S: Cavorting 100 (Bernardini) K. McLaughlin/I. Ortiz
BEL Easy Goer S: Japan 89 (Medaglia d'Oro) W. Mott/J. Alvarado

SA Affirmed S (G3): Gimme Da Lute -- (Midnight Lute) B. Baffert/M. Garcia
SA Possibly Perfect H: Gaga A-URU -- (T. H. Approval) N. Drysdale/T. Baze
SA Crystal Water S: Patriots Rule 93 (Tribal Rule) R. Diodoro/F. Perez

MTH Monmouth S (G2): Triple Threat-FR 99 (Monsun-GER) W. Mott/J. Lezcano
MTH John McSorley S: Dreamsgonewild 92 (Freud) B. Alexander/T. McCarthy
MTH Crank It Up S: Lady Shipman 87 (Midshipman) K. O'Connell/E. Nunez

CD Mint Julep H (G3): Kiss Moon 92 (Malibu Moon) D. Vance/C. Lanerie

WO Eclipse S (G2): Are You Kidding Me 92 (Run Away and Hide) R. Attfield/A. Garcia
WO Steady Growth S: Pender Harbour 91 (Philanthropist) M. De Paulo/L. Contreras

EVD Evangeline Mile S: Mystery Train-ARG -- (Not For Sale-ARG) D. Vienna/C. Hernandez
EVD Lafayette S: Mobile Bay -- (Lone Star Special) V. Arceneaux/D. Saenz
EVD Acadiana S : Thiscatcanjam -- (Big Top Cat) A. Klanfer/C. Hernandez

PRX Jostle S: Warriorscmoutoplay 82 (Warrior's Reward) M. Stidham/J. Theriot

CBY Brooks Fields S: Az Ridge 92 (Toccet) D. McFarlane/G. Franco
CBY Minnesota H. B. P. A. Distaff S: Stoupinator 91 (Stormy Atlantic) M. Robertson/D. Butler

TDN Mackey Memorial Angenora S: Blazing Bling -- (Too Much Bling) T. Hamm/

GP Tiger Lily H: R Free Roll 87 (Rockport Harbor) K. Ziadie/E. Zayas
GP Tangelo H: Huasca 85 (Tiz Wonderful) E. Loza/E. Castro
GP Parrot Key S: Grande Shores 85 (Black Mambo) S. Gold/E. Castro
GP Big Cypress H: Requite 92 (Warrior's Reward) G. Weaver/E. Castro

FL George W. Barker S: Frisky Warrior 95 (Desert Warrior) R. D'Alessandro/J. Rodriguez

DEL Our Mims S: White Clover 82 (Exchange Rate) J. Jones/K. Clark

I'm glad to see that materiality and upstart are still the fastest horses in this crop.

IMO that fig should be adjusted(lowered) substantially. Florida Derby 2015 was slow on the clock and while track was goofy its just proven to be a key race for overrating colts.

Two plausible reasons the fig will be left alone. Inconsistent Drugs laws in Florida and or both Upstart and Materialty are trained by people who when their horses go off form rarely return to best form? I do not know. I bought Upstart because of his very good 2 year old races I never subscribed to Materialty tremendous talent. What do I know

I'm sure Andy Beyer will find a way to knock AP and belittling Gary Young again for making his comment about AP before the Derby.

What comment is that?

Actually, he couldn't have been more complimentary of American Pharoah and his achievement.

Beyer: American Pharoah defied all obstacles

As a dozen horses since 1978 tried to win the Belmont Stakes and the Triple Crown, racing purists have harbored mixed feelings about some of these bids. It would be almost a sacrilege for a less-than-great horse to have his name inscribed on the list of Triple Crown winners that includes some of the sport’s immortals.

American Pharoah is not another Secretariat, Affirmed, or Seattle Slew. But after his front-running victory Saturday, he deserves an exalted place in racing history, for he swept the Kentucky Derby, Preakness, and Belmont Stakes at a time when the feat has become more difficult than ever.

American Pharoah has the most potent combination of strengths that a horse can possess in American dirt racing. He has high speed, but also has the talent and temperament to conserve that speed and employ it when his jockey asks. Accordingly, American Pharoah has been able to get an ideal tactical position in every one of his seven straight victories. And that is what he did in the Belmont.

Most of his seven rivals lacked any early speed; only Materiality had ever displayed enough quickness to indicate that he might challenge the favorite. His trainer, Todd Pletcher, declared, “We’ve got to put some pressure on American Pharoah.” But Materiality couldn’t do it — he delivered a dismal performance and finished last -- and American Pharoah immediately seized the lead.

"In the first turn,” jockey Victor Espinoza said, "it was the best feeling I’ve ever had.” After he set a moderate pace over the exceptionally fast racing surface — a half mile in 48.83 seconds, six furlongs in 1:13.41 — the outcome of the Belmont was decided. American Pharoah had plenty of energy left to draw away strongly in the stretch, and racing had its 12th Triple Crown winner.

It is difficult for many handicappers (myself included) to heap lavish praise on horses who win with perfect trips like this one. After a horse captures a race with an unchallenged early lead, we’re looking to bet against him the next time he runs, not anoint him a superhorse.

And American Pharoah’s performance in the Belmont was not of superhorse quality, no matter what millions of viewers might have thought as they watched him drawing away to win by 5 ½ lengths. He ran 1 ½ miles in 2:26.65 on the same card that a fair-to-middling group of older stakes horses covered the distance only .48 second slower. It was certainly a good effort: His Beyer Speed Figure of 105 was the best in the Belmont since 2007, but still a bit below the historical norm for the race.

Before making a definitive judgment about how American Pharoah stacks up against the all-time greats, racing fans should wait to see him challenge top older horses later in the year. That’s usually the acid test for a 3-year-old. Affirmed and Seattle Slew did not fully certify their greatness until their post-Triple Crown phase of their careers.

Regardless of the quality of his individual performances, and regardless of what he does in the future, American Pharoah’s sweep of the three classics is an achievement more notable than those of the 11 horses who did it before him.

The weeks leading up to his Belmont were filled with discussion about the reasons that the Triple Crown has been so difficult to win for the last 37 years. Some horses of the past lost because of bad rides or because they encountered a superior rival. But in recent years, three significant developments have affected 3-year-olds bidding for the Triple Crown:

• * Because of their popularity and large purses, the Triple Crown races have attracted big fields that make them more difficult to win. Citation faced a grand total of 15 rivals in three races; American Pharoah had to defeat 17 in the Derby alone.
  
• * As the breeding of U.S. Thoroughbreds has changed, virtually no horses have a pedigree to run 1 ½ miles on the dirt, creating an obstacle that didn’t affect the stamina-rich horses of previous generations.
  
• * Racing three times in five weeks is too difficult for modern-day horses, who are regularly given much more time between starts -- except in the Triple Crown. From 2006 until this year, 23 horses ran in the Preakness and came back to run in the Belmont three weeks later. All 23 lost. Fresh horses who rest five weeks from the Derby to the Belmont now hold a significant advantage.

These factors weren’t relevant in the Triple Crown until early in the new millennium, and they are becoming more important. U.S. horses continue to be bred with an emphasis of speed over stamina. Horses need and get more rest between races. In view of these trends, Triple Crown winners will be increasingly rare. American Pharoah’s sweep will look even more impressive if nobody duplicates the feat for another 37 years.

Materiality's last race?


Sounds like Beyer would like Coach Inge at 12f's at 12/1 vs. AP at even money? I guess that's fair?

I like how he makes it sound as if Materiality sort of just ran around the track near the back of the pack.

Also, Brisnet rated the race as one of their highest they've ever done.

Some lifetime bests:

easy goer 118
sunday silence 115
formal gold 118
skip away 116
cigar 117
holy bull 112
curlin 121


Ap's Belmont was 117.

Not sure I'd go quite this far on this, but it seem to be MUCH closer to reality.

CJ had a fairly strong view of race..118 on old scale 128 on the new version of figs.. 118 on the old scale is like a 111/112 BSF equivalent

That's much more believable.

It was far from the greatest performance I've ever seen, but 105 is not realistic either.

He ran 1 ½ miles in 2:26.65 on the same card that a fair-to-middling group of older stakes horses covered the distance only .48 second slower. It was certainly a good effort: His Beyer Speed Figure of 105 was the best in the Belmont since 2007, but still a bit below the historical norm for the race.

I chuckled......

Point Given has still had the most visually and highest Beyer rated Belmont given a 114 in recent memory which is now 14 years ago. Damn time flies

I dunno; that Beyer piece seems to be a textbook example of damning with faint praise.

That much is obvious.

What's obvious is that enjoying accomplishments for what they are while appreciating perspective which critical analysis offers has become impossible.

Regardless of the quality of his individual performances, and regardless of what he does in the future, American Pharoah’s sweep of the three classics is an achievement more notable than those of the 11 horses who did it before him.

Beyer's praise is so faint that he single's out American Pharoah's Triple Crown as the more impressive than the 11 that came before.

I agree.

Notable and impressive are two different things.

I agree.. its by far my least favorite of all post race articles I've read.

btw.. great show yesterday Steve. Are you going to have a write up? I always love how you recap big events.

Saturday was spectacular. So happy for all that got to be there.. and everyone watching from home. The emotion was very very intense. American Pharoah is one hell of an animal. That was a very impressive Belmont. Only one I've personally seen like it is Point Given's race (I started following horse racing in 1996 for perspective). It was so neat to see that horse pull away and know that it was really happening. I kept rewinding the coverage to re-watch the race.

My problem with the Beyer article is yes, this horse is another Secretariat, Affirmed and Seattle Slew. Of course there is never another horse like Secretariat. But American Pharoah has accomplished what they accomplished by becoming a triple crown winner. Also this horse is very similar to Seattle Slew in my opinion. I just don't understand the jab. Unless he is talking about their entire racing careers, which would be foolish because you can only really compare what you've seen so far.

Beyers take on ATR is the pace was slow AP had it his own way and the race was historically ordinary. He applauds the achievement but clearly thinks AP speed is ordinary for G1 horses. By doing this he suggests that all that his big Fig horses like Materialty and Frosted didnt fire, which is certainly plausible I guess.

CJ doesnt think the pace was slow and other figure makers seem to have a different take. All are plausible takes and Beyers take is certainly understandable and consistent with the math. IMO you have to weigh all the recaps with a grain of salt. I personally dont think the pace was slow and while Materiality maybe be finished his Derby was perceived very highly for his bad trip etc. and for you to just say he couldnt run reasonably fast for a 6f's 5 weeks after his OK derby is a bit of a reach for my palate. Again its racing and judging this stuff aint easy.

I think its fair to say Beyer doesnt think AP has ever run a really fast race to date.

Beyer later in the article cautions to reserve judgment on American Pharoah until his career is complete. Seeing how he is certain to retire at the end of the year, hopefully he doesn't continue to emulate Seattle Slew, who bombed in an tailored "appearance" race at Hollywood Park. (Secretariat also re-appeared post-TC in a "groomed" race--the Arlington Invitational). Seattle Slew seems to have had similar criticisms dogging his career, but at 4 he was afforded a huge opportunity to shut the naysayers down when he faced fellow Triple Crown winner Affirmed in the Marlboro Cup and delivered a knockout performance (not that beating a tired 3yo was unexpected). He followed it up with huge efforts in the important fall races at Belmont. Add in his near death experience during the previous winter and you have some nice elements to create a legend.

As for American Pharoah, a run at the Haskell-Travers double would be a feat no modern day TC ever accomplished. Affirmed won the Travers outright, but sawed off Alydar entering the far turn and was disqualified. As he won't be seen at 4, it will be nice to see the horse avoid appearance-fee races (although Monmouth tends to oblige) and focus on the prestige events this summer and fall.

Personally, I would love to see him attempt Easy Goer's late season campaign (i.e., Whitney, Travers, Woodward, JCGC), but I'm not sure if its even possible schedule-wise nowadays.

The pace was indeed pretty relaxed and easy for AP. It usually is in the Belmont. Ordinary though? No.



Yeah, I find that pretty convenient for him to explain away just how truly historically bad his Florida Derby opinion is. It's really an offense to common sense, and I normally don't give a crap about what people's opinions are (in the sense of getting bent out of shape).

I personally felt his Derby trip was entirely overblown, though I can see why people feel the way they do, and I might be wrong.

The rest of that paragraph, I am confused by. He was pretty close up to the lead for at least half of the race, so, he did, in my eyes, fire and ran a decent enough race until he quit. He had five weeks to prepare for that effort? How is it a reach to say he couldn't prepare in five weeks to run 3/4's in 113 and change? That's workout speed. Maybe I'm not understanding your point.

That's part of my problem. To me, it seems like he is lacking objectivity, which is a must when working with numbers, like he does. He's run several very fast races, but because he THINKS AP hasn't, he adjusts his numbers downwards.

Again, maybe I'm missing something, but using the Brooklyn to downgrade the Belmont seems pretty far fetched in this instance.

My GUESS is the pace so solid not slow by any measure. While you can suggest Materiality had been gutted in Derby, and was rushed to even compete in these races, just discounting him as a bum who couldnt run a solid half when asked is mighty convenient. Then you have Moobi not looking to brush but certainly being asked and he makes up little to no ground. Then Frosted a solid Fig earner in Wood and "the other" horse out of Derby that ran at least the 3rd or 4th best race, off 5 weeks rest training great and looking the part he tries to stay in contact and does. I just cant believe the pace was slow, I think that is a judgement error on Beyers part but heck what do I know? I am sure he loves betting in the same pools as me and I am sure he is a better handicapper.

I think your point on the Florida Derby fig is valid I think it was a MUCH slower race then its credited for. It just doesnt pass the smell test. But Again I am sure the fig assigned falls well within the math and discipline which Beyer subscribes to.

The problem with thinking the trip was overblown is it sort of lends credence to Materialty being gutted in Derby and not being able to prompt a solid pace. I think its a little of each I think Materialty was heading into the TAP abyss but I still think he was freshened enough to be able to run a solid if not fast 6f's

Beyer doesn't think AP has proven he is fast YET and doesnt discount he can improve but and I quote "we pretty much know who AP is at this point".. Well I do too and I think he is friggin fastest, sound, and special.

That first paragraph needs some translations Freddy.

But if I understood the first part, I in no way suggested he was gutted in the Derby.

I said I felt his trip trouble was overblown and wasn't the super equine effort it seemed to be made into.

If you think he ran well in Derby after a trip and bad post, then 5 weeks of freshening would lead me to believe he should have been able to run a solid 6f's when asked to press pace. If you believe his derby is overblown and he ran a cruddy 94 and that's all he had in tank after a big Florida derby then you can suggest he had entered the Pletcher hospital and its easier to believe he simply couldnt run fast early and the pace was slow

I need a Google Freddy to Freddy to English translator.

Why do you think it's far fetched? It's the way speed figures are calculated. Or do you mean that the Brooklyn figs should have been higher? That's a reasonable proposition, IMO.

If AP had gotten a 110 BSF for the Belmont, that pretty much forces a 106 for the top two finishers in the Brooklyn. (a half-sec = about 3 lengths; 3 lengths = about 3.5 BSF's at 1.5 miles). Coach Inge ran a 104 last time out. His next best in 9 starts was a 93 BSF. But giving a 106 for the Brooklyn wouldn't have seemed unreasonable to me.

Likewise, a 106 for V. E. Day doesn't seem in left field. V.E.Day earned a 102 winning the Travers last year. He earned BSF's of 93 and 95 in his remaining 2014 starts, but encountered enough trip trouble to push those figs well past 100, IMO. His only start in 2015 earned a 96 on grass. To me it's completely believable that he could run a 106 as a 4-yr-old.

So, just using the top 2 horses in the Brooklyn, it looks like the figs could have been higher. Beyer's team uses all the horses in the races, so maybe they thought there were compelling reasons for the lower figs. cmorioles apparently didn't feel that way? At any rate, I can understand how AP's low fig would be annoying to some.

I don't know that I can explain myself on this topic, on a message board. I find that I am lacking the ability to convey what I feel is wrong.

And it's not really that he got a low fig that I find annoying. It's the seemingly arbitrary use or non use of split variants to make a race fit what the figure makers think it should be.

I listened to Beyer very closely today. It's pretty clear he thinks AP is beating up on a lot of ordinary colts or catching fast colts when they arent firing, for me that's very unrealistic. I also heard him say it was a wonderful accomplishment. Whatever. By his measure(BSF) Rachel would have dusted AP off and beat him by 5l's in Preakness? I dont know, not sure I really care. Nobody can convince me the Florida Derby was a very fast race but Beyer believes it was.

That's a fair to midland request.....

This is one of the problems with the Triple Crown hoopla, and flavor-of-the-months in general, as it dismisses other great champions we witnessed. How quickly the Zenyatta circus erased the impact of Azeri on the racing landscape. That Harlem Globetrotter-like stalwart also took quite a bit of shine off the filly you just mentioned, Rachel Alexandra.

A quick review of Rachel Alexandra highlights one of the all time great campaigns not only in terms of accomplishment, but in terms of pace, final time, and field quality.

While we are inundated with quasi-physiological assessments of American Pharoah's thoracic-pelvic limb coupling and whispers of speed figure conspiracy theories, no such mumbo jumbo is needed when analyzing Rachel Alexandra's 3yo campaign.

Facile wins in the midwest in preps for the bigger dances parallel American Pharoah's romps at Oaklawn. The Kentucky Oaks was one for the ages, stalking Gabby's Golden Gal, from the same crew that brought you Firing Line and likewise coming off a blowout at Sunland Park, Rachel Alexandra disposed of her as she pleased and won by 20. Gabby's Golden Gal won a Grade 1 in her next start, and did so again at 4.

The Preakness saw RA lock horns with Big Drama, a subsequent BC Sprint winner and champion sprinter, then draw off and hold sway. Ironically, American Pharoah's sire, Pioneerof The Nile was seen with brief speed before pack-peddling and easing through the stretch---sound like Materiality to anyone? Perhaps Pioneerof The Nile's Santa Anita wins in the winter preps should be dismissed too, based on this one run. By the way, he never ran again.

The Mother Goose against fillies seems like a joke, with just 3 horses, but Flashing would go on to win two Grade 1s in the summer and Malibu Prayer won a Grade 1 at 4, so quality was not in question. Certainly the pace that was set was blazing. 1:08+ for 6f. RA won by nearly 20 again, in a stakes record.

They took it to her in the Haskell. A sloppy track. Munnings (sire of Om, who dusted American Pharoah first time out), fresh off huge sprint wins against both fellow 3yos and older horses engages RA immediately while Kent Desormeaux decides to put the pressure early from the inside down the backstretch to try and crack her facade. She won by 6.

Visually and time-wise, the Woodward was a letdown, but nevertheless she won and defeating older males in one of the prestige events on calendar was the only thing that could put a worthy cap on what she had done earlier in the year.

That she showed only flashes of the same brilliance at 4 is no matter. In 5 races at 3 she was tested in all ways by all types and could not be beaten.

American Pharoah could not be beaten, either, and so was able to achieve a rare feat, but the kitchen sink was hardly thrown at him...unless 2 for 9 Frosted and 2 for 7 Firing Line are worthy substitutes for all the things Rachel Alexandra overcame.

By using Rollo logic, Munnings would have won this years triple crown because his son 'dusted' AP in their debuts, and AP is slow because his sire lost a race.

Is it possible that AP's competition had smaller hearts?

:rolleyes:

I figured you would grab the bit and runoff with the little digressions, rather than the actual content, which centered on Rachel Alexandra's 3yo campaign. Nothing new there.

Hopefully, Freddy will bring more intelligence and focus to this discussion.

Funny.

You've been the one bringing the little digressions to the table.

Nothing new there at all.

At this point, I'd take Smooth Operator for intelligence and focus.

I loved Rachel like no filly/mare. Her campaign was stunning her Haskell was incredible and she is an all time filly Maybe and I mean maybe she is second behind Personal Ensign but I am splitting hairs. I never had any use for Zenyatta not because I didnt realize she was wonderful just because she was handled not to lose and save her Apple Blossom/BCC's she was to conservatively spotted(maybe that's why she lasted?).

I realize its impossible and kind of fruitless to guess who was faster but for the sake of pure conjecture and fun. I think she could never beat AP. Again its just an opinion and impossible to have any faith in.

As for the Beyer fig I agree its rock solid and guessed it the night before. Beyer has not been impressed with AP's races, he has been impressed with accomplishments. Kind of sounds like the ole Cigar rhetoric you know he wins but he never wins running fast. I think if Materialty would have won by a nose against AP or Frosted and either of those 2 were 3rd 5 .5 lengths back Beyer would have used 108/09 because it would have given more credence to the Florida Derby Fig. To me the fig is just about as relevant as my opinion on who would have won a hypothetical Preakness between AP and Rachel.