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Benny 01-16-2016 07:01 AM

Wrona is righta for Santa Anita
 
Like his calls and although I like Miramahdi,Wrona has IT, the story telling ability and heady turn of phrase without cliche's . I can listen and enjoy the calls.
Here's his story http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...116-story.html

casp0555 01-16-2016 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1053687)
Like his calls and although I like Miramahdi,Wrona has IT, the story telling ability and heady turn of phrase without cliche's . I can listen and enjoy the calls.
Here's his story http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...116-story.html

before I clicked on the link I was thinking about his call on "Denman's Call" last weekend....not sure why that stuck in my mind except maybe for the horse's name. I like him.....

herkhorse 01-16-2016 09:35 AM

Trevor light

casp0555 01-16-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 1053707)
Trevor light

about an octave lighter

helicopter11 01-16-2016 02:50 PM

Wrona is spot-on in his descriptions of the race. Wrona, Vic or Churchill Downs old announcer Mark Johnson would fit perfectly. As long as its not Larry Collmus

Kasept 01-24-2016 04:14 PM

3 weeks of Wrona ending today.. The more you hear of of him, the less appealing he is as a candidate. Mark me down for Mirahmadi so far, thanks..

Kasept 01-24-2016 04:16 PM

Guess there weren't any Yids at the track today to prep Wrona on how to properly pronounce Mishegas..

saratogadew 01-24-2016 04:25 PM

Mirahmadi for the SA job. I might be in the minority, but Wrona's voice always sounds like he's really straining. Never played Golden Gate because he"s very tough for me to listen too. Frank was great at Monmouth last year.

pweizer 01-24-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1054595)
Guess there weren't any Yids at the track today to prep Wrona on how to properly pronounce Mishegas..

Trevor was equally brutal with this particular name...

Paul

Benny 01-25-2016 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1054594)
3 weeks of Wrona ending today.. The more you hear of of him, the less appealing he is as a candidate. Mark me down for Mirahmadi so far, thanks..

Au contraire mon ami , the more I , not you, hear him,the more appealing he is. Mirahmadi is good, but lets keep him on the east coast ;)

MaTH716 01-25-2016 08:33 AM

I'll admit that I was never a big Wrona guy, but truthfully I dont watch much Norther California racing either. I have been very impressed with his work at Santa Anita. His calls are sharp, concise and accurate. He knows when to play it up a bit and when not to. I really think he would be an excellent choice to be the permanent voice of the Great Race Place.

Holybull1 01-25-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 1054659)
I'll admit that I was never a big Wrona guy, but truthfully I dont watch much Norther California racing either. I have been very impressed with his work at Santa Anita. His calls are sharp, concise and accurate. He knows when to play it up a bit and when not to. I really think he would be an excellent choice to be the permanent voice of the Great Race Place.

My thoughts exactly. Feel bad for whichever guy doesn't get the job.

Easy Goer Otis 01-25-2016 09:49 AM

Either would be fine with me.

However, I think Santa Anita has most likely benefitted as a brand from the Robin Leach "champagne dreams and caviar wishes" accent that they had going with Trevor Denman in the announcer booth, and they will likely call upon Wrona to perpetuate the "poshness".

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Michael Wrona 01-26-2016 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1054594)
3 weeks of Wrona ending today.. The more you hear of of him, the less appealing he is as a candidate. Mark me down for Mirahmadi so far, thanks..

After what I genuinely felt was one of the most enjoyable interviews I've ever experienced (January 8), your comment comes as a surprise and disappointment. Obviously, being interviewed doesn't suggest an endorsement, but you didn't give a hint of disapproval or skepticism. If the opinion you've expressed has been formulated in the couple of weeks since, I must wonder whether you'd ever heard me in 25 preceding years.

Michael Wrona 01-26-2016 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1054595)
Guess there weren't any Yids at the track today to prep Wrona on how to properly pronounce Mishegas..

Prior to that race, several people went out of their way to tell me that the emphasis belonged on the first syllable, while lamenting that Trevor always emphasized the second. I would never reference such a criticism of him, except for being forced to explain myself. If I was inaccurate with a vowel sound in a later syllable, I apologize and - as I've always made clear at any opportunity - I'm extremely open and receptive to all constructive criticism and correction.

However, given [A] I (supposedly) employed the correct emphasis and [b] Mishegas raced in close proximity to a horse named DIPLODOCUS, I have to tell you that I felt quite relieved to exit the race call (at least, I thought, at the time) unscathed. Furthermore, as my own absolute, full-time, harshest critic, I thought I "read" that race particularly well. Your criticism seems an extraordinary "bone to pick."

Kasept 01-26-2016 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wrona (Post 1054694)
After what I genuinely felt was one of the most enjoyable interviews I've ever experienced (January 8), your comment comes as a surprise and disappointment. Obviously, being interviewed doesn't suggest an endorsement, but you didn't give a hint of disapproval or skepticism. If the opinion you've expressed has been formulated in the couple of weeks since, I must wonder whether you'd ever heard me in 25 preceding years.

Michael..

It's an impossible situation for you and Mirahmadi and Santa Anita, as well as anyone who is considering which of the two of you are 'best' for the position. Of course I've heard your calls ahead of this stint. You and Frank are both excellent racecallers and either of you would be terrific long term voices for Santa Anita.

Those debating it from the outside are just reacting at a gut level to what we're hearing. That's all. It's not an indictment or disapproval, just a 'feel'. It may also be that not hearing Denman is still so awkward to this point that no caller is going to instantly 'feel' right overlaid on the action and it will take permanence to better associate the voice with the venue. As an example, with Durkin's departure, I find it more comfortable hearing John Imbriale call than Larry Collmus because Imbriale's voice/cadence has a long term familiarity to the circuit.

I'm sorry that I shared my reaction at all because it's premature in the process and as said earlier, either of you will do a fine job. I'm sure Mirahmadi would be equally disappointed if I said I preferred you so far.

Kasept 01-26-2016 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wrona (Post 1054695)
Prior to that race, several people went out of their way to tell me that the emphasis belonged on the first syllable, while lamenting that Trevor always emphasized the second. I would never reference such a criticism of him, except for being forced to explain myself. If I was inaccurate with a vowel sound in a later syllable, I apologize and - as I've always made clear at any opportunity - I'm extremely open and receptive to all constructive criticism and correction.

However, given [A] I (supposedly) employed the correct emphasis and [b] Mishegas raced in close proximity to a horse named DIPLODOCUS, I have to tell you that I felt quite relieved to exit the race call (at least, I thought, at the time) unscathed. Furthermore, as my own absolute, full-time, harshest critic, I thought I "read" that race particularly well. Your criticism seems an extraordinary "bone to pick."

Not a bone pick but a tongue in cheek barb. This Yiddish word ('messy' or 'nuttiness') was mangled non-stop by Denman and is another no-win arena. I mispronounce names plenty, including a recent bout with Benoit which of course can be Ben-OYT or Ben-WAH depending on the person's familial preference. Emphasis on either syllable isn't definitive, but rather the pronounciation of 'gas': 'gos' v. 'gas' as in mish-uh-gos.

asudevil 01-26-2016 08:57 AM

Trevor butchered plenty....
Big Macher
Idon'trollonshabbos

freddymo 01-26-2016 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wrona (Post 1054694)
After what I genuinely felt was one of the most enjoyable interviews I've ever experienced (January 8), your comment comes as a surprise and disappointment. Obviously, being interviewed doesn't suggest an endorsement, but you didn't give a hint of disapproval or skepticism. If the opinion you've expressed has been formulated in the couple of weeks since, I must wonder whether you'd ever heard me in 25 preceding years.

Respectfully, HAVE A FRIGGIN HEART. There is no bigger fan of racing and its participants then Byk. His comment was as tongue an cheek as it gets. While respectfully written your post is oddly much more adversarial and probing then it needed to be and speaks to VERY thin skin, perhaps suggesting that a permanent appointment is NOT in the best interests of racing.

If you thought that Steve Byk was overly critical of an Aussie butchering the pronunciation of a pigeon eastern European sub language you are sadly mistaken. If you thought he was denouncing your commitment to get it right you are sadly mistaken.

As a fan I have enjoyed your calls very much. They are generally excellent. Your thin skin not so much. Good luck in your career pursuits.. "lighten up Francis"

South Beach Luv 01-26-2016 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 1054704)
Trevor butchered plenty....
Big Macher
Idon'trollonshabbos

Called Sidney's Candy, Sidney's Craig in my favorite race of his.


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