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Kasept 05-28-2010 10:25 AM

Romero, Azeri, PG, Best Pal make Hall; Vets add 3 inc. Pierce
 
Jockey Romero, Three Horses to Hall of Fame
By Ron Mitchell

Jockey Randy Romero and three horses--Azeri, Best Pal, and Point Given —have been elected into the National Museum of Racing’s Hall of Fame in Saratoga Springs, N.Y. for 2010.

The induction ceremony will take place Aug. 13 at the Fasig-Tipton sales pavilion in Saratoga.

Under a new voting format undertaken by the Hall of Fame committee for this year, candidates were no longer segmented by category. Voters could vote for up to four of the horses and individuals listed on the ballot, and the four with the highest number of votes were elected. As a result of the new process, neither of the two trainers who were among the finalists—Gary Jones and Robert Wheeler—were elected to the Hall of Fame this year.

As the only jockey elected to the Hall this year, Romero will be inducted on the basis of a career in which he won 4,294 races from 26,091 from 1973-99. With a career win rate of 16%, Romero’s mounts earned more than $75.2 million. Included among his 122 graded stakes victories were Breeders’ Cup World Championship wins with top distaffers Go for Wand and the undefeated Personal Ensign. With 342 total stakes wins to his credit, Romero won titles at 10 tracks, including Belmont Park, Arlington Park, Gulfstream Park, Keeneland, and Fair Grounds.

randallscott35 05-28-2010 10:27 AM

Point Given? Really?

blackthroatedwind 05-28-2010 10:27 AM

Ridiculous.

geeker2 05-28-2010 10:31 AM

Bob insisted...

randallscott35 05-28-2010 10:35 AM

Lookin At Lucky is a lock. :rolleyes:

philcski 05-28-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 651940)
Point Given? Really?

It's his success as a sire that propelled him in. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, Awesome Again isn't in and he deserves to be in over Point Given.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-28-2010 11:20 AM

Finally, both Randy Romero & Best Pal get in! :)

blackthroatedwind 05-28-2010 11:39 AM

How exactly is Romero qualified?

FATPIANO 05-28-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 651953)
Finally, both Randy Romero & Best Pal get in! :)

Really glad Best Pal finally made it in, and Point Given deserved it too

philcski 05-28-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 651959)
How exactly is Romero qualified?

It's close, but I can see why he got in. 3 BC wins, probably 50 G1 wins, rode some of the biggest names of the 80's, and over 4,000 wins overall- but most of all he's become kind of the poster child for jockeys struggling with health issues.

I like the guy but I don't know if I would have voted for him. Strictly on merit, John Velazquez should get in over him (1 Belmont, 6 BC's, almost 5,000 wins, 6th on the all time money list).

randallscott35 05-28-2010 11:59 AM

I don't even know if Azeri should be in.

philcski 05-28-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 651964)
I don't even know if Azeri should be in.

She should 100% be in.

randallscott35 05-28-2010 12:08 PM

I can live with it. Point Given not so much. Here is Azeri.

At 4:
Won Breeders' Cup Distaff (G1), Santa Margarita H. (G1), Apple Blossom H. (G1), Milady Breeders' Cup H. (G1), Vanity H. (G1), Clement Hirsch H. (G2), Lady's Secret Breeders' Cup H. (G2)
2nd La Canada S. (G2)
At 5:
Won Apple Blossom H. (G1), Milady Breedrs' Cup H. (G1), Vanity H. (G1), Clement Hirsch H. (G2)
2nd Lady's Secret Breeders' Cup H. (G2)

At 6:
Won Apple Blossom H. (G1), Go For Wand H. (G1), Spinster S. (G1)
2nd Humana Distaff H. (G1), Personal Ensign H. (G1)

philcski 05-28-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 651967)
I can live with it. Point Given not so much. Here is Azeri.

At 4:
Won Breeders' Cup Distaff (G1), Santa Margarita H. (G1), Apple Blossom H. (G1), Milady Breeders' Cup H. (G1), Vanity H. (G1), Clement Hirsch H. (G2), Lady's Secret Breeders' Cup H. (G2)
2nd La Canada S. (G2)
At 5:
Won Apple Blossom H. (G1), Milady Breedrs' Cup H. (G1), Vanity H. (G1), Clement Hirsch H. (G2)
2nd Lady's Secret Breeders' Cup H. (G2)

At 6:
Won Apple Blossom H. (G1), Go For Wand H. (G1), Spinster S. (G1)
2nd Humana Distaff H. (G1), Personal Ensign H. (G1)

She was the best filly of the decade before Rachel and Zenyatta came along. Point Given was the best of nothing. I'm not even sure he was the best horse of that class, I might vote for Congaree over him.

randallscott35 05-28-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 651969)
She was the best filly of the decade before Rachel and Zenyatta came along. Point Given was the best of nothing. I'm not even sure he was the best horse of that class, I might vote for Congaree over him.

I agree on that. Older campaigns still matter to me.

blackthroatedwind 05-28-2010 12:30 PM

Azeri is 100% deserving.

Point Given retired after the Travers and never even faced old horses. Give me a break. I don't deny he is absolutely talented enough to belong....but that isn't the criteria....unless I missed it and Danzig is in the HOF.

Slewbopper 05-28-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 651959)
How exactly is Romero qualified?

Sympathy vote...much like Turcotte

Danzig 05-28-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 651973)
Azeri is 100% deserving.

Point Given retired after the Travers and never even faced old horses. Give me a break. I don't deny he is absolutely talented enough to belong....but that isn't the criteria....unless I missed it and Danzig is in the HOF.


i agree on all points. point given didn't do enough to get in, it's ridiculous that he was even on the ballot.

Coach Pants 05-28-2010 06:05 PM

It is a sympathy vote for Romero. You really can't knock it because the guy is, like Phil said, the poster child for little people who are heavy.

Danzig 05-28-2010 06:27 PM

they need to get rid of annual voting. every year now we'll get inductees who really don't belong. no one should get in unless they really deserve it. annual choices means a watered down event most years going forward, with one possible deserving nominee, and others getting in because someone has to.


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