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horseofcourse 12-18-2011 06:29 PM

ahhhh, Red skelton finally wore us down completely in OT. We get the loss and ensure a 4 win season.

clyde 12-18-2011 07:37 PM

That's what I love about the Browns.




It doesn't matter regarding the players in the game....who,why,when,where,WTF??

It doesn't matter how well they start the game.

They will always play just good enough and just long enough to lose.




Bright side note:They have now scored 2 first quarter td's this season...2 games to go. What is the NFL record? They have to be close.

horseofcourse 12-18-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 826189)
Bright side note:They have now scored 2 first quarter td's this season...2 games to go. What is the NFL record? They have to be close.

That's funny...2 first quarter TD's, that matches the 2 times they've reached 20 points in a game this year!! It looked like they may do it today, but as you said, they simply figure out how to lose game after game after game...they made it all the way to overtime to finally lose it today, so that was a first this year too.

clyde 12-18-2011 11:05 PM

YA!!










Anyways...you can't do this stuff on purpose.

No one's that good.

horseofcourse 12-21-2011 09:05 AM

Baltimore is about 20 points better at home than on the road. I'd say that spells Baltimore 44 Cleveland 10 this week. (I'll be in Ohio-ie for Christmas to visit relatives, I may have to listen to Donovan and Dieken for old times sake, are they still on radio??) Robert Griffin here we come!! Please. AFter one game Wallace runs a better offense and throws a better deep ball than Colt. Please, please draft a qb.

clyde 12-21-2011 10:11 AM

But you know, it's funny.... for all that ...it was the same game they have played almost all season long.



Automatic Otto couldn't help us.

horseofcourse 12-21-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 826615)
But you know, it's funny.... for all that ...it was the same game they have played almost all season long.



Automatic Otto couldn't help us.

Exactly...I don't think there is any difference between the starting qb and the backup qb for the most part. There is nothing entertaining at all about the Browns. Robert Griffin is an A+ athlete with an A+ arm who actually seems like a good guy too. You get him at all costs if at all possible. Jax still plays Indy again this year meaning the Browns can actually get up to the 4 spot in the draft. Indy takes Luck, and the Rams and Vikings allegedly have qb's already. He is their guy...it has to be done. He alone will make a massive difference simply for aesthetics. I would actually look forward to seeing what they do next year.

clyde 12-21-2011 10:50 AM

If it were me, and I know it's not..... would look for offensive lineman.Good ones.It would be nice to have 5 for a change instead of 2.

I like the potential of the defense...but it needs lb's, another corner and a free safety.


Aesthetics,yes...like the word.It works.I'm maybe one of the few who thinks this ''franchise qb" phrase is over hyped.Get another qb here, yes....but at the top I would look for those I mentioned as far as the draft goes.


But I hate the WC offense and don't care for Mr. Rogers and lately the same for Holmgrem..whatever his name might be.








Phooey.

horseofcourse 12-21-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 826626)
If it were me, and I know it's not..... would look for offensive lineman.Good ones.It would be nice to have 5 for a change instead of 2.

I like the potential of the defense...but it needs lb's, another corner and a free safety.


Aesthetics,yes...like the word.It works.I'm maybe one of the few who thinks this ''franchise qb" phrase is over hyped.Get another qb here, yes....but at the top I would look for those I mentioned as far as the draft goes.


But I hate the WC offense and don't care for Mr. Rogers and lately the same for Holmgrem..whatever his name might be.








Phooey.

They've been trading down for so long, I would look later for the other positions. They got Joe Thomas pretty high and he's been pretty good from all accounts. They took a corner (Haden very high in another draft) They traded down twice....got Alex Mack who is ok at center from what I've heard, traded down last year passing on Julio Jones who is really good at wideout and got Phil Taylor who is ok I guess, that Sheard they got in the 2nd round is a pretty good pass rusher. They do have Atlanta's first rounder this year from the trade down last year and that is when I go O lineman or the defensive help.

I just think it's time to do it. Cam Newton's gonna be real good no matter what you think of him. Matthew Stafford is real good now...Matt Ryan is real good now...even Alex Smith is pretty good right now...I rarely see very high drafted qb's completely fail. Tim Couch was never as bad as he was made out to be (that's another story for another day!), and Brady Quinn is long past. It's time to stop being afraid of high drafted qb's.

clyde 12-21-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 826632)
They've been trading down for so long, I would look later for the other positions. They got Joe Thomas pretty high and he's been pretty good from all accounts. They took a corner (Haden very high in another draft) They traded down twice....got Alex Mack who is ok at center from what I've heard, traded down last year passing on Julio Jones who is really good at wideout and got Phil Taylor who is ok I guess, that Sheard they got in the 2nd round is a pretty good pass rusher. They do have Atlanta's first rounder this year from the trade down last year and that is when I go O lineman or the defensive help.

I just think it's time to do it. Cam Newton's gonna be real good no matter what you think of him. Matthew Stafford is real good now...Matt Ryan is real good now...even Alex Smith is pretty good right now...I rarely see very high drafted qb's completely fail. Tim Couch was never as bad as he was made out to be (that's another story for another day!), and Brady Quinn is long past. It's time to stop being afraid of high drafted qb's.

But what is a real highly rated qb going to do here!!?

There's nothing for him to do!


I don't follow NFL too much.I said what I did about Newton to piss off Dahla...which I enjoy.


Thomas has been ProBowl/AllPro just about every year. Mack made ProBowl first year.Haden is generally recognized as one of he best cb's in the AFC.The other picks are doing well on defense.

I do think just as many high profile qb's guys fail as don't......and many were'nt high picks who do make it big.

Not suggesting a trade down,but to me ...going with a qb at 1 and wide outs( especially) at 2-4 don't make any sense on this team.

clyde 12-21-2011 05:50 PM

Ah furgud....add: I really do believe one builds from the inside out in football.

clyde 12-23-2011 06:05 PM

I do enjoy the Indians signing of more has beens and never weres so they may become DFA's....with us...and in their very first season here.



The latest trade of a very hot 3-A closer for a right handed bat who can't hit.....well it just don't make no sense.

He is young,though...so there's plenty of time for him to get worse.That's probably what they were thinking.

clyde 12-24-2011 04:40 PM

Well....the Browns lost again.




I'll be darned.

horseofcourse 12-27-2011 07:21 AM

clyde, being in ohio-ie right now, I've seen the2012 Cavs!! It's awesome!! The Brazilian was the best player on the floor for them. The Israeli looked like a sack of garbage The old American (Jamison) looked like the worst player in NBA history. The Canadian rookie has great hops and looks to have possibilities. The backup point guard looked much much better than the number one overall draft pick. It was his first NBA game so I'll rush to no judgements on Kyrie, made a few competent passes at least. Was a brick layer shooting but not as good a mason as Jamison. We are safely in the lottery again, I can say that much which is good, we need more bodies.

Oh well, cleveland sports.

horseofcourse 12-27-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 827229)
Well....the Browns lost again.




I'll be darned.

Hillis has become inspired again I guess. Another game of doing just enough to lose. Cleveland sports. WE did need to lose as our draft position continues to improve....could get all the way to number 4.

horseofcourse 12-27-2011 07:52 AM

I'm pretty sure the purpose of Cavs this year to remind us no matter what the Tribe turns out to be, they will in no way be this bad!!

clyde 12-27-2011 01:12 PM

These poetic words of tragedy you type...in their grief----beauty abounds.




Oh my God.

What am I saying?

clyde 12-27-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 827478)
clyde, being in ohio-ie right now, I've seen the2012 Cavs!! It's awesome!! The Brazilian was the best player on the floor for them. The Israeli looked like a sack of garbage The old American (Jamison) looked like the worst player in NBA history. The Canadian rookie has great hops and looks to have possibilities. The backup point guard looked much much better than the number one overall draft pick. It was his first NBA game so I'll rush to no judgements on Kyrie, made a few competent passes at least. Was a brick layer shooting but not as good a mason as Jamison. We are safely in the lottery again, I can say that much which is good, we need more bodies.

Oh well, cleveland sports.

Don't embarrass yourself with these false words of hope.

clyde 12-29-2011 05:49 PM

The Cavaliers got that first win of the new season out of the way last night.




Whew!

clyde 12-30-2011 10:54 AM

The Indians are opening up a new staff position;Director of Trauma and Triage.


He will then hire his own personnel....17, I believe...in order to provide daily care and emergency treatment for the Indian players recently released from ICU as well as the aged .

Also, MLB has given certain Indian players to use walkers from the dugout to the batters box.Certain pitchers may use the same to and from the mound.


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