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Cannon Shell 08-26-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
will murderers and rapists be getting mini-fridges?

I would love a waffle maker

dellinger63 08-26-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Please Riot, just give it up, you are the most liberal person on this forum times ten and you even scare me. You are like the Timmy of liberals.

LOL :tro:

SniperSB23 08-26-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
She knows that and knows the environmental benefit is a couple drops in Lake Michigan but never let the truth and or common sense get in the way of people who 'get it'. Whatever 'it' is it's nothing good.

Dell, which of the next two weekends are you making an appearance at the Spa? I'll buy you five beers and we can have a more fun debate on this subject.

dellinger63 08-26-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Dell, which of the next two weekends are you making an appearance at the Spa? I'll buy you five beers and we can have a more fun debate on this subject.

we were going to come last w/e but work etc. Guess next trip will be BC.

I've spent numerous days, dinners and nights with GBbob and Chuck and politics rarely ever come up. In fact almost never. Guess we all know where we stand.

SniperSB23 08-26-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hell every other liberal gave up...there is no one left to spar with!



Plus she tosses so 81 mph fastballs right down the middle...

She is the Livan Hernandez of political boards.

Cause Cash for Clunkers has been an unexpected success for Obama and it is kind of fun watching all of you just sit back and hit home runs off that *******Riot. None of us gave up, we just want something worth arguing about. I don't know how anyone can claim to be bipartisan and deny that Cash for Clunkers worked. Come on, about 100 Obama plans didn't show immediate results, at least focus on those.

SniperSB23 08-26-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
we were going to come last w/e but work etc. Guess next trip will be BC.

I've spent numerous days, dinners and nights with GBbob and Chuck and politics rarely ever come up. In fact almost never. Guess we all know where we stand.

I'll be there Wednesday on for BC Week, where are you guys staying? I'm at the Days Inn Duarte like 2 miles from the track.

Cannon Shell 08-26-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Cause Cash for Clunkers has been an unexpected success for Obama and it is kind of fun watching all of you just sit back and hit home runs off that *******Riot. None of us gave up, we just want something worth arguing about. I don't know how anyone can claim to be bipartisan and deny that Cash for Clunkers worked. Come on, about 100 Obama plans didn't show immediate results, at least focus on those.

I believe that I said that the program was a success. What I have said to Riot and the banker to be named later is that the degree of success has been greatly exaggerated, mostly due to the of the lack of success of virtually everything else.

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dellinger63 08-27-2009 12:01 AM

I didn't go last year but I think a Residence Inn close by the track.

SniperSB23 08-27-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I believe that I said that the program was a success. What I have said to Riot and the banker to be named later is that the degree of success has been greatly exaggerated, mostly due to the of the lack of success of virtually everything else.

We can disagree on the level of success and I happen to think it was the most successful program with immediate results we have seen from Obama. But Riot is a Republican, you can't argue with her anymore.

dalakhani 08-27-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I believe that I said that the program was a success. What I have said to Riot and the banker to be named later is that the degree of success has been greatly exaggerated, mostly due to the of the lack of success of virtually everything else.

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The worst president in the history of our country had eight years to thoroughly screw things up. At least give Obama a couple of years to right the ship. Is that unreasonable?

I have enjoyed this thread though. Riot keeps fighting the good fight. I am highly impressed with her stamina despite being surrounded on all sides by challengers.

Sniper just cracked me up. If Riot is radical, what does that make my friend Dellinger?

dalakhani 08-27-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
We can disagree on the level of success and I happen to think it was the most successful program with immediate results we have seen from Obama. But Riot is a Republican, you can't argue with her anymore.

I totally disagree. Buying MBS has been extremely successful.

SniperSB23 08-27-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I totally disagree. Buying MBS has been extremely successful.

Are you making stuff up now? This isn't facebook, we all aren't privy to what the fuc< MBS means.

dalakhani 08-27-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Are you making stuff up now? This isn't facebook, we all aren't privy to what the fuc< MBS means.

Mortgage backed securities.

dellinger63 08-27-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Sniper just cracked me up. If Riot is radical, what does that make my friend Dellinger?

I could only be in Riot’s league only if I said I used to be a flaming liberal and my party was taken away by far left, gay atheists.

Some confuse radical with passion.

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I totally disagree. Buying MBS has been extremely successful.

Of course the fact that this is not Obamas program makes this interesting. The success of this is debatable regardless.

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The worst president in the history of our country had eight years to thoroughly screw things up. At least give Obama a couple of years to right the ship. Is that unreasonable?

I have enjoyed this thread though. Riot keeps fighting the good fight. I am highly impressed with her stamina despite being surrounded on all sides by challengers.

Sniper just cracked me up. If Riot is radical, what does that make my friend Dellinger?

This has nothing to do with Jimmy Carter.

Bush is hardly to blame for most of what ails the country. Your people are far more responsible.

Smooth Operator 08-27-2009 08:42 AM

Wow, nearly 700,000 liberals tooling around in their new vehicles.


Surely no cons would ever voluntarily participate in such an evil government program like Cash for Clunkers ... right? lol

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Wow, nearly 700,000 liberals tooling around in their new vehicles.


Surely no cons would ever voluntarily participate in such an evil government program like Cash for Clunkers ... right? lol

Cons dont own Clunkers. We have nice cars unlike the 700,000 liberal former ecodisaters that now have kamikaze cars now. Maybe Stanford can send them all a bumper sticker of the picture of the pass the Cardinal tree hugger threw to beat the cheatin Trojans at the Coliseum?

dellinger63 08-27-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Wow, nearly 700,000 liberals tooling around in their new vehicles.


Surely no cons would ever voluntarily participate in such an evil government program like Cash for Clunkers ... right? lol

We all drive Hummers towing boats and limo's remember. :D

Which reminds me. On a Wisconsin Interstate this w/e I saw a super luxury-mac daddy RV towing a bright yellow Hummer (looked like a H2 definately not H1) and behind the hummer was a 24-28 ft Cobalt speed boat. It was like 70 ft long. How is that legal? I know the guy was republican cause look what he was driving and towing. Would have loved to see him turn or back up.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-27-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
This has nothing to do with Jimmy Carter.

Bush is hardly to blame for most of what ails the country. Your people are far more responsible.

:tro: :tro: :zz:

hello..

im still waiting for the troops to come home..lol

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
We all drive Hummers towing boats and limo's remember. :D

Which reminds me. On a Wisconsin Interstate this w/e I saw a super luxury-mac daddy RV towing a bright yellow Hummer (looked like a H2 definately not H1) and behind the hummer was a 24-28 ft Cobalt speed boat. It was like 70 ft long. How is that legal? I know the guy was republican cause look what he was driving and towing. Would have loved to see him turn or back up.

If the Hummer had been baby blue I would have guessed Calabrese

Danzig 08-27-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
We all drive Hummers towing boats and limo's remember. :D

Which reminds me. On a Wisconsin Interstate this w/e I saw a super luxury-mac daddy RV towing a bright yellow Hummer (looked like a H2 definately not H1) and behind the hummer was a 24-28 ft Cobalt speed boat. It was like 70 ft long. How is that legal? I know the guy was republican cause look what he was driving and towing. Would have loved to see him turn or back up.


most states have limits on how long something like that can be, but i don't know how serious they are about enforcing the length limits. in the scheme of most to least serious offenses, that has to be far down on the list.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-27-2009 08:59 AM

yes there are limits axle wgts / lenth/ hight.. he got by..

dellinger63 08-27-2009 09:16 AM

I figured he seperates the hummer/boat from the RV as soon as he gets off the highway. Had TX plates so definately not Calabrese.

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I figured he seperates the hummer/boat from the RV as soon as he gets off the highway. Had TX plates so definately not Calabrese.

Don Von Hemmel?

dellinger63 08-27-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Don Von Hemmel?

No cowboy hat

dellinger63 08-27-2009 09:34 AM

I was thinking Ross Perot's grandkids or someone's as they looked in their late teens.

timmgirvan 08-27-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Sometimes.

The point is, first, that patients have options.

Secondly, those options depends upon the private plan you purchase. There are catastrophic only plans, limited plans, companies that don't write in certain states, etc. As you age, or if you develop any medical problems, your options become more and more limited. If you lose or quit your job, you do have the opportunity to purchase (continue) your insurance under COBRA, but good luck on paying for that, as the insurance company will now charge you as an individual for what your boss was paying for in a discounted group. If you cross state lines, you can rarely take your insurance with you - thus you start from scratch. At this point, the new insurer (even if the same "company") can bar you from coverage for anything you've previously made a claim on, or is an ongoing medical problem.

That's how the insurance companies save money. Although rates are estimated to rise 10% this year, regardless of healthcare reform.

It also depends upon the insurance company agreeing to honor the contract it makes with you. You see, it's an unregulated industry, thus, even if you have an expensive, very inclusive plan, the insurance company can choose to alter that plan at their whim. And you have no recourse.

They can drop you if you make a claim, refuse to cover you for things in your policy, rescind your policy, put cap limits on an illness, find something pre-existing in your past history to disallow current treatment (the "famous" one being talked about now in the debate is the person who was denied treatment for malignant melanoma - skin cancer - as they had had acne with treatment in their past)

Health care reform is all about increasing the options people seeking healthcare have.

This is what lawyers are good for!

Smooth Operator 08-27-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Cons dont own Clunkers. We have nice cars unlike the 700,000 liberal former ecodisaters that now have kamikaze cars now. Maybe Stanford can send them all a bumper sticker of the picture of the pass the Cardinal tree hugger threw to beat the cheatin Trojans at the Coliseum?

Wow ... I might be a con. lol



Your desktop probably could use some new wallpaper, Cannon:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/...376446e2_o.jpg

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Wow ... I might be a con. lol



Your desktop probably could use some new wallpaper, Cannon:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/...376446e2_o.jpg

Look at all the empty seats! Cant even sell out the LA area's only pro football teams games?

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I was thinking Ross Perot's grandkids or someone's as they looked in their late teens.

Cedric Benson?

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 10:30 AM

http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,89084

Clunkers cash is taxable...

Free money is never free when it comes from Uncle Sam

GPK 08-27-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,89084

Clunkers cash is taxable...

Free money is never free when it comes from Uncle Sam

Please tell me people weren't idiotic enough to think it wouldn't be. Gotta love people that would jump head first into a program offering like that before really exploring the totality of it all.

Brilliant...

Smooth Operator 08-27-2009 12:09 PM

Come on, Cannon ... it's LA.

The cool people don't arrive till well after the opening kickoff. :cool:

Danzig 08-27-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Please tell me people weren't idiotic enough to think it wouldn't be. Gotta love people that would jump head first into a program offering like that before really exploring the totality of it all.

Brilliant...


lmao

give' with one hand while sticking their other hand in your back pocket....

and of course any states with personal property taxes will benefit from this-a new car will cost way more then your clunker when you assess.

Riot 08-27-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You have to get a clue. They just make these numbers up because there is no way to either verify or deny them. .

In other words, I should be like you: simply call everything you don't like hearing false ;)

Riot 08-27-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Why are you still arguing with Riot? I'm a liberal and love arguing with you Chuck but the stuff that Riot comes up with is not only amazingly nonpartisan (as she likes to claim) but is borderline mentally retarded. Please Riot, just give it up, you are the most liberal person on this forum times ten and you even scare me. You are like the Timmy of liberals.

Hope to see you again at Arlington next week, too :tro:

GPK 08-27-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
lmao

give' with one hand while sticking their other hand in your back pocket....

and of course any states with personal property taxes will benefit from this-a new car will cost way more then your clunker when you assess.

How naive can the American public really be?

Riot 08-27-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The worst president in the history of our country had eight years to thoroughly screw things up. At least give Obama a couple of years to right the ship. Is that unreasonable?

I have enjoyed this thread though. Riot keeps fighting the good fight. I am highly impressed with her stamina despite being surrounded on all sides by challengers.

Sniper just cracked me up. If Riot is radical, what does that make my friend Dellinger?

We've lost the challengers, they are all out back together doing the male bonding thing, peeing on a wall :D

Cannon Shell 08-27-2009 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
In other words, I should be like you: simply call everything you don't like hearing false ;)

Do I really have to go over the entire "jobs saved" thing again? Please try to comprehend that it isnt true or false, just ficton.


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