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pgardn 06-17-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
The role of the pg has changed but that's only if you are talking about they should get a pg to be their dominant offensive player. You don't want a guy that's going to dominate the ball because that's what Kobe's going to do. Same thing with LeBron in Cleveland. You saw the same thing with Pierce here. When it's most important, Pierce was the one doing the main ballhandling.

Imo if your PG is your leading scorer thats trouble.
But they have to do the vast majority of ball handling
and adjusting the pace and situations to fit the Man on the team.
I personally like a PG that can play D. Stop the initial penetration
is always first at the crucial junctures in games. Easy layups
by the opposing PG at critical points is worse than having the
star score imo.

Anyways.
Nice talking basketball on a horsey board.

King Glorious 06-17-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I like Boston to take the first two at home and then LA to take the next two in LA. Boston takes game five in LA and comes home to end it in six. I think that the Celtics are going to be too strong inside for them. They pounded the Lakers inside in the two regular season meetings and yes, I know that's the reg season and I know that the Lakers didn't have Gasol then......but they did have Bynum and Boston still pounded them inside. If they can get Odom or Gasol into any kind of foul trouble, it's going to make it hard on the Lakers because they don't have depth on the front-line. I don't think that the Lakers are as invicible as the 4-1 win over SA seems. SA was up by 20 in one loss and 17 in another and another loss came down to a final shot. Add in that the game they won, they won by nearly 20. They were out executed when it mattered but they weren't outplayed the way you would expect a 4-1 margin to indicate. I think Boston is going to show them some real defense here and yes, Kobe's going to get his but we will shut down the rest.

Pierce is going to win the MVP.

Got something right finally.

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I didn't see Pippen or Rodman on the court tonight. Stop being utterly ridiculous. A team that was picked by most experts to win it all before the season started won it.

Hooray.

Yeah, they were such an overwhelming chalk that 14 of 16 ESPN "experts" picked the Lakers to win the series before it started. Whatever you say man, we were the bad guys, sure. I'm loving life.

Coach Pants 06-18-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, they were such an overwhelming chalk that 14 of 16 ESPN "experts" picked the Lakers to win the series before it started. Whatever you say man, we were the bad guys, sure. I'm loving life.

TVG Experts carry more weight than those guys. Get the f.uck out of here with that garbage.

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
TVG Experts carry more weight than those guys. Get the f.uck out of here with that garbage.

LOL, you're probably right there. Funny thing is you had the Lakers winning in 4, so unless that was more sarcasm, you didn't think much of the C's either. I'm enjoying this immensely CP, and hope you don't hop on the IrishND petulant bitterness train. Goodnight to all, celebration awaits. :D:D:D

Coach Pants 06-18-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
LOL, you're probably right there. Funny thing is you had the Lakers winning in 4, so unless that was more sarcasm, you didn't think much of the C's either. I'm enjoying this immensely CP, and hope you don't hop on the IrishND petulant bitterness train. Goodnight to all, celebration awaits. :D:D:D

I was being just a little sarcastic.

The Lakers big men were exposed and they put on the skirts the whole series. They definitely need to get some physical players...and Bynum isn't the answer.

King Glorious 06-18-2008 12:54 AM

I think it would be interesting what happens with Bynum in the mix next year but I'm not so sure he's the answer. I don't think they can play Bynum, Odom, and Gasol all together. I think Bynum is going to need to be the number two option in order to continue his growth. You could see it in his play. He's calling for the ball on the block. He wants to dominate inside. That's going to take the ball out of Gasol's hands and diminish his effectiveness as well as Odom's. I think that sometimes, teams can have too many top individual players that don't know their exact role and it ends up hurting the team.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-18-2008 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I don't like catholics either.

LOL...They don't try very hard to convert people. Last thing they want is more people in front of them in the biscuit line.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-18-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Lakers to win it, but you can't predict how. They should blow them out in 4 or 5, but they most likely will be lazy(take it in 6 or 7.) Kobe n' Phil lost in the finals the last chance they had. I don't expect them to lose another one. I wouldn't bet on it though, because an injury to Kobe would give it to Boston. Not exactly a class organization. So, I wouldn't be surprised if that option was taken. This is the same organization that turned their place into a sauna when the Lakers came there in the 80's. There is zero class involved there.

nice call...re re and injury to kobe would have helped the lakers.lil biznitches...freaking quit playing ..no hart l.a teams..how do you get blown out by 30?...priceless:D

alysheba4 06-18-2008 08:29 AM

the REAL good news is........the street ball league is officialy over.

Scav 06-18-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
the REAL good news is........the street ball league is officialy over.

EXACTLY....

IrishofNDMan 06-18-2008 10:22 AM

whats the Avatar going to be Ateam you sunofabitch! :cool:

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
whats the Avatar going to be Ateam you sunofabitch! :cool:

Gonna have to think long and hard about this one. Give me a day or so.. :)

Scav 06-18-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Gonna have to think long and hard about this one. Give me a day or so.. :)

It needs to be a Bill Russell or Kevin McHale picture.....or even the CHIEF...

GBBob 06-18-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Gonna have to think long and hard about this one. Give me a day or so.. :)

If I had lost that bet Joey, and as a long time Celtic hater, it would pain me most to have to have a Larry Byrd avatar up

Scav 06-18-2008 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
If I had lost that bet Joey, and as a long time Celtic hater, it would pain me most to have to have a Larry Byrd avatar up

That is too easy.

He should rock the Red Auerbach(?) picture, since Phil can't and probably won't beat him....

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
If I had lost that bet Joey, and as a long time Celtic hater, it would pain me most to have to have a Larry Byrd avatar up

I hear you, but Irish is too young to really remember Bird (as am I), so it wouldn't be quite the same.

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 02:38 PM

Here's a contender:


SCUDSBROTHER 06-18-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
nice call...re re and injury to kobe would have helped the lakers.lil biznitches...freaking quit playing ..no hart l.a teams..how do you get blown out by 30?...priceless:D


I said the Lakers were totally reliant on Kobe(that's why I said I wouldn't bet the series.) He shot poorly the whole series. They weren't going anywhere with him missing open shots like he did all series. It was a very poor performance(much to the delight of all the low-level racists who are still outraged that he had rough sex with a very naughty white girl.) If your asking about the margin of victory, I think it's pretty simple math. Boston made about the same number of 2 point shots as they would normally make, but had an extra 30 points from the combination of free throws and three pointers. In other words, an extra 18 points from three pointers(than their average,) and they made an extra 12 free throws (than normal for them.) They shot very well. They deserved to win. It was a very hot shooting team(much like the years when the Spurs make everything they put up.) We will see how well they shoot next year. They played well defensively, but they were pretty much shooting out of their minds. The defense will remain. The shooting will come and go. It's obvious your attraction to the series had nothing to do with BOSTON, and everything to do with L.A. Your post has nothing in it about BOSTON. Your interest is not in BOSTON . ..."kobe"..."the lakers".... "l.a teams"...If Cali is so bad, then why is it the average house price is like 500k here versus 160k etc. in Pisscola?

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I said the Lakers were totally reliant on Kobe(that's why I said I wouldn't bet the series.) He shot poorly the whole series. They weren't going anywhere with him missing open shots like he did all series. It was a very poor performance(much to the delight of all the low-level racists who are still outraged that he had rough sex with a very naughty white girl.) If your asking about the margin of victory, I think it's pretty simple math. Boston made about the same number of 2 point shots as they would normally make, but had an extra 30 points from the combination of free throws and three pointers. In other words, an extra 18 points from three pointers(than their average,) and they made an extra 12 free throws (than normal for them.) They shot very well. They deserved to win. It was a very hot shooting team(much like the years when the Spurs make everything they put up.) We will see how well they shoot next year. They played well defensively, but they were pretty much shooting out of their minds. The defense will remain. The shooting will come and go. It's obvious your attraction to the series had nothing to do with BOSTON, and everything to do with L.A. Your post has nothing in it about BOSTON. Your interest is not in BOSTON . ..."kobe"..."the lakers".... "l.a teams"...If Cali is so bad, then why is it the average house price is like 500k here versus 160k etc. in Pisscola?

Or, you know, to anyone who's been bludgeoned to death with Kobe media slurping and Jordan comparisons. Those people (just about everybody outside of Laker fans) might have taken some pleasure in seeing Kobe piss himself too.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-18-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Or, you know, to anyone who's been bludgeoned to death with Kobe media slurping and Jordan comparisons. Those people (just about everybody outside of Laker fans) might have taken some pleasure in seeing Kobe piss himself too.

Joey, it's mainly racism. They root for the lesser of 2 evils. One black guy had sex with a loose white chick, and (in their mind) got away with something(even though she bragged about being with him.) Pierce n' Garnet are just as unclassy as this guy is, but they didn't have the same well publicized extra-marrital sex with a loose white girl(who liked it enough to brag about it.)

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Joey, it's mainly racism. They root for the lesser of 2 evils. One black guy had sex with a loose white chick, and (in their mind) got away with something(even though she bragged about being with him.) Pierce n' Garnet are just as unclassy as this guy is, but they didn't have the same well publicized extra-marrital sex with a loose white girl(who liked it enough to brag about it.)

:rolleyes: Right.. I honestly don't give a **** what he does in his personal life. Even without that nonsense in Colorado, he's still a petulant prima donna. He's a scumbag with a great PR team (here Kobe: smile for the white people, don't use too much slang, put your kids on your lap, don't lick your lips too many times). KG, on the other hand, is the epitome of class, and unlike Kobe, he doesn't try to come off as the perfect human being.

Scav 06-18-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:rolleyes: Right.. I honestly don't give a **** what he does in his personal life. Even without that nonsense in Colorado, he's still a petulant prima donna. He's a scumbag with a great PR team (here Kobe: smile for the white people, don't use too much slang, put your kids on your lap, don't lick your lips too many times). KG, on the other hand, is the epitome of class, and unlike Kobe, he doesn't try to come off as the perfect human being.

I really like Garnett, he is probably my favorite player, since way back when I saw him in a pickup game about 3 miles from my house BUT last night he was acting kinda nuts when that chick was trying to interview him. he gets a pass because of how bad he wanted that championship, but he should just said "not right now" or something to that effect instead of going bonkers into the mic

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I really like Garnett, he is probably my favorite player, since way back when I saw him in a pickup game about 3 miles from my house BUT last night he was acting kinda nuts when that chick was trying to interview him. he gets a pass because of how bad he wanted that championship, but he should just said "not right now" or something to that effect instead of going bonkers into the mic

Gets a pass? The hell did he do wrong? If he goes "not right now", people bash him for not doing the interview. I thought it was amazing, and proves my point about him not trying to come across as the perfect human being.

Scav 06-18-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Gets a pass? The hell did he do wrong? If he goes "not right now", people bash him for not doing the interview. I thought it was amazing, and proves my point about him not trying to come across as the perfect human being.

Maybe I just saw it wrong, it looked like he was acting thug and was swearing and all that stuff that people hate. I was halfway paying attention

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Maybe I just saw it wrong, it looked like he was acting thug and was swearing and all that stuff that people hate. I was halfway paying attention

I really wish there was a gigantic :rolleyes: face.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-18-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:rolleyes: Right.. I honestly don't give a **** what he does in his personal life. Even without that nonsense in Colorado, he's still a petulant prima donna. He's a scumbag with a great PR team (here Kobe: smile for the white people, don't use too much slang, put your kids on your lap, don't lick your lips too many times). KG, on the other hand, is the epitome of class, and unlike Kobe, he doesn't try to come off as the perfect human being.

You've got to be kid'n me about K.G. The guy uses more foul language on the court than anyone I have ever seen. Each time he is at the foul line the camera catches the guy doing it. I suppose what he did during the middle of the 4th quarter was classy huh? That's not the epitome of class. Duncan is a pretty classy player(if you need an example.) Some of the guys around him aren't classy, but he is.

ateamstupid 06-18-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You've got to be kid'n me about K.G. The guy uses more foul language on the court than anyone I have ever seen. Each time he is at the foul line the camera catches the guy doing it. I suppose what he did during the middle of the 4th quarter was classy huh? That's not the epitome of class. Duncan is a pretty classy player. If you need an example. Some of the guys around him aren't, but he is.

Oh no, foul language! He should just clam up like Kobe and say "gee willikers" and all of that so he doesn't scare white people, huh?

Middle of the fourth quarter? Sorry, I must have missed that while trying to contain my fear that Kobe "wouldn't let the Lakers blah blah blah".. Your golden boy **** the bed, and instead of coming to grips with him being somewhere in between Vince Carter and Michael Jordan, you predictably deflect the discussion to a completely unrelated topic.

pgardn 06-18-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I said the Lakers were totally reliant on Kobe(that's why I said I wouldn't bet the series.) He shot poorly the whole series. They weren't going anywhere with him missing open shots like he did all series. It was a very poor performance(much to the delight of all the low-level racists who are still outraged that he had rough sex with a very naughty white girl.) If your asking about the margin of victory, I think it's pretty simple math. Boston made about the same number of 2 point shots as they would normally make, but had an extra 30 points from the combination of free throws and three pointers. In other words, an extra 18 points from three pointers(than their average,) and they made an extra 12 free throws (than normal for them.) They shot very well. They deserved to win. It was a very hot shooting team(much like the years when the Spurs make everything they put up.) We will see how well they shoot next year. They played well defensively, but they were pretty much shooting out of their minds. The defense will remain. The shooting will come and go. It's obvious your attraction to the series had nothing to do with BOSTON, and everything to do with L.A. Your post has nothing in it about BOSTON. Your interest is not in BOSTON . ..."kobe"..."the lakers".... "l.a teams"...If Cali is so bad, then why is it the average house price is like 500k here versus 160k etc. in Pisscola?

What playoff season did the Spurs make everything they put up? I must have missed it. Their best team 99, shot horribly and lost 2 playoff games the entire way.

Scav 06-18-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Oh no, foul language! He should just clam up like Kobe and say "gee willikers" and all of that so he doesn't scare white people, huh?

Middle of the fourth quarter? Sorry, I must have missed that while trying to contain my fear that Kobe "wouldn't let the Lakers blah blah blah".. Your golden boy **** the bed, and instead of coming to grips with him being somewhere in between Vince Carter and Michael Jordan, you predictably deflect the discussion to a completely unrelated topic.

Healthy Vince or unhealthy Vince??

SCUDSBROTHER 06-18-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Oh no, foul language! He should just clam up like Kobe and say "gee willikers" and all of that so he doesn't scare white people, huh?

Middle of the fourth quarter? Sorry, I must have missed that while trying to contain my fear that Kobe "wouldn't let the Lakers blah blah blah".. Your golden boy **** the bed, and instead of coming to grips with him being somewhere in between Vince Carter and Michael Jordan, you predictably deflect the discussion to a completely unrelated topic.

No, I said he choked in the series. It wouldn't of mattered, because Boston was shooting out of their mind. It would have forced a game 7 though. Kobe needed to make some shots in game 4, and choked. Didn't make open shots. He won't be compared to Jordan after this series. He can't be.

Coach Pants 06-18-2008 03:48 PM

Halfway between Carter and Bryant? Ok now you're being a real Celtics homer. Go get your clover.

pgardn 06-18-2008 03:53 PM

The race stuff is also kinda funny.
In the place were I lived everyone hated Bird and really
liked Magic. I was the same. Bird was a loud mouth trash talker.
Magic killed you with a smile.

Not saying racial overtones are not there.
And there is a whole bunch of reverse race stuff when it comes to basketball.
Man I got some stories from both white and black people during tournaments that are hilarious.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-18-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
What playoff season did the Spurs make everything they put up? I must have missed it. Their best team 99, shot horribly and lost 2 playoff games the entire way.

I'm gunna answer this, but then that's it, teacher. I am not gunna let you drain energy by nitpickin' somebody else's view all night long. I am not gunna feed that odd addiction. Now, I have to go do this crap for you(once, and that's it.)

GPK 06-18-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
The race stuff is also kinda funny.
In the place were I lived everyone hated Bird and really
liked Magic. I was the same. Bird was a loud mouth trash talker THAT BACKED UP EVERYTHING HE EVER SAIDMagic killed you with a smile.

Not saying racial overtones are not there.
And there is a whole bunch of reverse race stuff when it comes to basketball.
Man I got some stories from both white and black people during tournaments that are hilarious.


FTFY Pat

Coach Pants 06-18-2008 04:06 PM

Bird is an a.sshole. One of the most vile human beings I've ever met. His face looks like old p.ussy.

GPK 06-18-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Bird is an a.sshole. One of the most vile human beings I've ever met. His face looks like old p.ussy.

Vile? why is that?

pgardn 06-18-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I'm gunna answer this, but then that's it, teacher. I am not gunna let you drain energy by nitpickin' somebody else's view all night long. I am not gunna feed that odd addiction. Now, I have to go do this crap for you(once, and that's it.)

You dont need to look anything up.
The Spurs dont win championships with offense.
It is part of the reason people do not like watching them.

Its always been defense. No need to go further.
You can find a game against Phoenix most likely where the shot a high
%, but who does not shoot a high % against Phoenix ever since Nash became their point...

You are mad at Bruce Bowen's superior defensive tactics.

pgardn 06-18-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Vile? why is that?

He spit at the crowd in San Antonio.
He bullseyed an old lady. I watched it.

His daughters also love him.

Kev I admit the guy was good. I just hated his personality.
And he was/is God-awful ugly. I guess that... that should make
him easier to like. If he was a pretty boy spitting on an old lady...

Antitrust32 06-18-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You've got to be kid'n me about K.G. The guy uses more foul language on the court than anyone I have ever seen. Each time he is at the foul line the camera catches the guy doing it. I suppose what he did during the middle of the 4th quarter was classy huh? That's not the epitome of class. Duncan is a pretty classy player(if you need an example.) Some of the guys around him aren't classy, but he is.


:eek: So someone uses foul launguage when playing a physical sport and that is classless???????????? GIMME A G-DAMN BREAK!


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