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Cajungator26 01-17-2007 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
I need confirmation of such opinions......
Will pictures serve as evidence? I kid, I kid... :D

Sightseek 01-17-2007 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
It probably helped that you're a hot babe too, right? :D
LOL, the night of the twilight racing card he did very obviously check me out as I walked by, but men will be men, as we both very well know. Seriously though, he was very nice and honest when I asked him about one of his horses. Most trainers won't give people the time of day unless they think you own a horse.

Cajungator26 01-17-2007 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL, the night of the twilight racing card he did very obviously check me out as I walked by, but men will be men, as we both very well know. Seriously though, he was very nice and honest when I asked him about one of his horses. Most trainers won't give people the time of day unless they think you own a horse.
Agreed... Nascar guys are the same. Unless you're on the team, they won't give you the time of day to talk about racing and there are only a few exceptions.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2007 09:40 PM
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things we regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?

GPK 01-17-2007 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things we regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?

dumbass rides by jocks excluded of course??:D

Cajungator26 01-17-2007 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things they regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?
No, we definitely do NOT need to be doing that as many racing figures frequent this board and it's not polite to state negative opinions concerning others. PERIOD.

I hope I get the chance to meet Nick someday, but in the meantime, I'll see him in a positive light because his horses look to be well taken care of and I've never heard a negative thing about him (with the exception of Eurobounce's opinion of him.)

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2007 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
No, we definitely do NOT need to be doing that as many racing figures frequent this board and it's not polite to state negative opinions concerning others. PERIOD.

I hope I get the chance to meet Nick someday, but in the meantime, I'll see him in a positive light because his horses look to be well taken care of and I've never heard a negative thing about him (with the exception of Eurobounce's opinion of him.)

Obviously it's a game where we all have lots of opinions, which is terrific, but there's a big difference between saying this rider rode poorly, and having a ride to argue over, or this trainer didn't do a great job, and having a horse or horses to argue over, and saying this jockey or trainer is a horrible human being. Believe me, there are people at the racetrack, just like everywhere else, that are less than special, but it hardly goes anywhere harping on it here. A simple " I don't like the guy ", and not a circular approach which finally leads to your admittance that you have a personal vendetta, will suffice.

Scav 01-17-2007 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by T3B
dumbass rides by jocks excluded of course??:D
If Byk bans me from yelling about Laviolette I AM OUTTA HERE.....

:)

The Indomitable DrugS 01-17-2007 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing.
Quite Frankly,

He reminds me of an Italianized version of Stephen A. Smith when he does television interviews.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2007 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Quite Frankly,

He reminds me of an Italianized version of Stephen A. Smith when he does television interviews.



Haven't you done enough?

stonegossard 01-17-2007 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Quite Frankly,

He reminds me of an Italianized version of Stephen A. Smith when he does television interviews.


Do you know where I can get any information on a horse named Smokey Stover. I am a huge fan of him. Am looking to start a fan club.

Thanks in advance.

stonegossard 01-17-2007 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I will say his horses are taken care of very well. I will never deny his passion and love for horses. That part about him is something to admire. However, I think his training ability (able to get his horses ready, able to figure out how to improve a horse etc etc is whats avg). All I am going to say is that there have been several times where I have seen Zito be less than a man. Not only to me but to other people. That is all. But his love for horses and passion for the game is great.

I met him at GP last year. Was a cool guy. Actually suprised he took the time to have a conversation with me (a guy he never met). Not sure what your beef with the guy is. As far as a trainer....you are right...he is average...only won 2 Kentucky Derbies.....gimme a friggin break....

brianwspencer 01-17-2007 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things we regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?
andy -- with any past or future disagreements aside, this is without a doubt my favorite post on Derby Trail in some time. Thanks for the story about Nick -- I've always found him to be more agreeable on TV (for what it's worth) than most trainers, and your story seems to back up everything I've ever thought about him. It's nice to know that there are people who don't just mug for the camera, but are genuinely good people when it comes down to the little everyday things.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-18-2007 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Do you know where I can get any information on a horse named Smokey Stover. I am a huge fan of him. Am looking to start a fan club.

Thanks in advance.

Smokey Stover is a very overrated Northern Cal sprinter (he can't even break an 80 on the CJ's!) that was named after a resoundingly unfunny cartoon strip.....

My suggestion would be to ditch the fan club idea...and go play in traffic.

Danzig 01-18-2007 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by T3B
dumbass rides by jocks excluded of course??:D
that's business, not personal!!:D

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:42 AM
I have to question the choice one would make to befriend a person who continually chooses to live his life in a less than stellar light when it comes to his life outisde of racing.

slotdirt 01-18-2007 08:47 AM
Cajun...what NASCAR guys aren't nice? In my experience, they're all good guys.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Cajun...what NASCAR guys aren't nice? In my experience, they're all good guys.
That has been my experience as well Slot. The old school drivers would actually go to a bar with you and get the entire bar drunk.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Cajun...what NASCAR guys aren't nice? In my experience, they're all good guys.
Slot, being a female and going out with them after they're done working is different than how they are on the track... there are a few in the business that don't have a lot of class, and I won't name names because how they act AFTER they're done racing isn't a good reflection on how they are with their fans at the racetrack.


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