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dellinger63 02-27-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 756676)
That doesn't appear to be true:






One hundred thousand gathered Saturday in Madison, in support of Wisconsin unions, the largest demonstration yet, with supporting rallies held in all 50 states.

Russ Feingold has formed a PAC, and is reporting 71,000 signatures to put him on the gubnatorial ballot when the Walker recall occurs.

On Wisconsin!

BTW Russ Feingold is the kiss of death. Start, 'turn out the lights'. Feingold lost in a landslide similar to Walker's landslide win. He is as foreign to a WI voter as a Chicago Streets and San guy protesting in Madtown who got his job from a guy named Solis coming out of boot camp. Not US military boot camp mind you, but Cook County as in Jail boot camp.

Keep that out of state fire lit though. Some of the farmers may get lazy should WI do well in the NCAA tourney coming up!

Riot 02-27-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 756844)
BTW Russ Feingold is the kiss of death. Start, 'turn out the lights'. Feingold lost in a landslide similar to Walker's landslide win. He is as foreign to a WI voter as a Chicago Streets and San guy protesting in Madtown ...

:zz: Feingold is foreign to Wisconsin voters? You mean where they kept re-electing him as a State Senator for 10 years, and then kept re-electing him your US Senator from 1993 to 2011? And now there are 71,000 signatures to get him on the recall vote ballot with Walker?

I don't think "foreign" was the adjective you were looking for :rolleyes:

dellinger63 02-27-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 756850)
:zz: Feingold is foreign to Wisconsin voters? You mean where they kept re-electing him as a State Senator for 10 years, and then kept re-electing him your US Senator from 1993 to 2011? And now there are 71,000 signatures to get him on the recall vote ballot with Walker?

I don't think "foreign" was the adjective you were looking for :rolleyes:


Believe me outside of Milwaukee and Madison Feingold is as foreign as Obama.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-28-2011 10:23 AM

did riot attend the protest....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d34_1298668564

Riot 02-28-2011 06:31 PM

Yay, Governor Walker! Way to go with what's most important: supporting education! Good thing you gave $140 million in unfunded tax incentives to corporations a couple weeks ago, and refuse to look at the fact that 2/3 of Wisconsin corporations pay no tax to the state whatsoever. Now that you did that, and took your budget surplus to give that corporate gift, and now you have a $136 million deficit this year you have to cover: well, the kids can help you pay for your love of corporations over children with their future.

The Koch brothers are proud of you for keeping your loyalty to corporations, rather than your citizens, surely.

Quote:

The governor is expected Tuesday to announce a new revenue limit that would require a $500 per-pupil reduction in property tax authority. The limits, in place since 1993, have gradually grown to reflect increasing education costs. That part of Walker's proposal alone would reduce the money available to the state's 424 districts by 7 percent, or nearly $600 million, based on a study done by University of Wisconsin-Madison economics professor Andrew Reschovsky.

"When you make unprecedented and historic cuts like these to schools, it means teachers are laid off, class sizes are larger, course offerings are reduced, extracurricular activities are cut, and whole parts of what we value in our schools are gone," state superintendent Tony Evers said in a statement.

Riot 02-28-2011 06:34 PM

AFSCME Files Unfair Labor Practice Complaint Against Gov. Walker
 
More good news for Mr. "I won't take yes for an answer!" Walker.

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AFSCME Files Unfair Labor Practice Complaint Against Gov. Walker

The attorney for the public employees union AFSCME has filed a complaint of unfair labor practices against Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.), alleging that he has violated his legal duty to bargain in good faith. The complaint argues that even though the public unions have agreed to the governor's demands on wages, benefits and pensions, he is still refusing to sit down and negotiate on collective bargaining rights.

AFSCME is asking the Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission to:

a. Declare that the respondent State of Wisconsin has denied its employees their rights under Wis. Stats. §§ 111.82 and 111.97;

b. Declare that the respondent State of Wisconsin committed an unfair labor practice within the definitions of Wis. Stats. §§ 111.84(1)(a) and (d) and 111.97(1)(a) and (d);

c. Require the respondent State of Wisconsin to bargain collectively with the complainant WSEU [Wisconsin State Employees Union Council];

d. Extend the provisions of the contract extension until this controversy reaches resolution;

e. Prohibit this and similar types of unlawful conduct in the future;

f. Require the posting of conspicuous compliance notices;

g. Require such further relief as may be deemed appropriate in these circumstance.

dellinger63 02-28-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 757009)
More good news for Mr. "I won't take yes for an answer!" Walker.

LMAO

you really have no clue do ya?

Riot 03-01-2011 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 757037)
I really don't have a clue about what the hell Walker is doing any more. He's been in office weeks, but he's outright lied to his citizens, and broken more laws in the past week than an Illinois governor. It's not going well. Even a few Republican Senators are now threatening not to vote yes for Walker's union-busting bill. So I will try to vaguely insult you.

FTFY, buddy ;)

Riot 03-01-2011 03:17 AM

Survey shows Walker and eight Republican State Senators vulnerable to recall
An estimated 1.1 million Wisconsin voters would sign a recall petition if asked


"Walker will not be subject to a recall until he has served one year in office. After he has served one year, a recall would require the signatures of approximately 532,970 voters (25% of the total 2010 gubernatorial vote). Based on the results of this most recent survey and microtargeting models, it is estimated that more than 1.1 million voters statewide would be willing to sign a recall petition if asked".
http://www.strategictelemetry.com/do...vey_022811.pdf

dellinger63 03-01-2011 08:14 AM

Outside of Milwaukee and Madison WI news

Rep. Evan Wynn, who represents the 43rd Assembly District, said that, despite the media attention given to pro-union protesters, supporters of the bill outnumber opponents.

“The protesters have been loud, but I believe they’re a vocal minority,” Wynn said. “I see where Tim Cullen said the state is split 50/50, but I feel it’s 60/40 in favor of the bill. Mr. Cullen and the other Senate Democrats were in hiding, while the rest of us have been here working and communicating with our constituents.

“This thing is bigger than the budget or collective bargaining,” he added. “It’s about what system of government we want, and not the minority dictating things to the majority. It’s about making this state great.”

Longtime state Rep. Steve Nass, R-Whitewater, said no amount of intimidation from protesters would keep him from voting for the bill.


http://walworthcountytoday.com/news/...lators-united/

merchant 03-01-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 753608)
Brainwashing of a Generation. The teachers didn't bother to educate the students about the issue at hand, they just told them what to do. Nice teaching job don't ya think?

The kids should be taught HOW to think, not WHAT to think. It's their future. Selfish move by the "teachers".

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!AMEN! the dumming down of america. may source wisdom save my grandchildren. mote.

Riot 03-01-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 757113)
Outside of Milwaukee and Madison WI news

Rep. Evan Wynn, who represents the 43rd Assembly District, said that, despite the media attention given to pro-union protesters, supporters of the bill outnumber opponents.

Strange statement. I wonder what alternate reality this guy is living in? That's not objectively true according to the signs of the 100,000 that were there this weekend, or the 70,000 last weekend (when a few thousand counter protesters showed up, bussed in by the Koch brothers "Tea Party" group), nor the thousands within the capital building this week.

Nor according to current public opinion polls that say 61% of Wisconsin citizens support the right to collectively bargain and disagree with Walker trying to take that away.

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“The protesters have been loud, but I believe they’re a vocal minority,” Wynn said.
Oh! I see! He's going with "belief". Not "facts" :D Who knows, maybe his individual district is telling him differently than the Wisconsin polls are showing.

Riot 03-01-2011 12:29 PM

Another Walker attempt to break the law fails for now
 
There is a Wisconsin law that says the Wisconsin capital must be open to free, unrestricted access by the public.

Governor Walker, over the last two days, has tried to circumvent that law, ordering access restricted since late Sunday night (limiting who can come in, denying access to most of the public)

A lawsuit was immediately filed late Sunday evening, with judge contact first thing Monday morning for a hearing to get a temporary restraining order on Walker, on behalf of the owners of the building, the public.

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Breaking Reuters: A Dane County circuit court judge ordered Wisconsin authorities on Tuesday to open the Capitol Building in Madison to public access during business hours.

It was not immediately clear whether the temporary restraining order granted by Judge Daniel Moeser would result in a change in the way people have been granted access to the building over the past two days.

Protesters have held demonstrations for two weeks at the Capitol building against Republican Governor Scott Walker's proposal to curb the powers of public sector unions and access was tightened on Monday and Tuesday.

A representative of the Walker administration was not immediately available to comment.
Walker does have a problem: he is supposed to broadcast his budget speech Tuesday, and the protesters are now going to provide background to that, as he couldn't eliminate them and make them go away.

Walker is still trying to screw everyone and anyone associated with the other party:

Holding paychecks for Democratic senators hostage (eliminated direct deposit, passed a resolution they have to come to the floor of the Senate to pick up their paycheck)

Making Democratic Senators current state employees (who are still working in the capital, serving the public) have their work hours signed off on by someone else, not permitted to be signed off by their boss.

Forbidding Democratic Senator current state employees from using the copy machines. Seriously. Walker has forbidden Senate Dem office employees from using their copy machines. If these public employees need copies, they now have to leave their office, go to a main office, get approval, then be allowed to use the copier.

Riot 03-01-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by merchant (Post 757118)
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!AMEN! the dumming down of america. may source wisdom save my grandchildren. mote.

The teachers in Wisconsin are 28th in the nation by their level of pay and benefits, but they are #1 in the nation in amount of children they get graduated from high school.

Riot 03-01-2011 12:44 PM


dellinger63 03-01-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 757160)
Nor according to current public opinion polls that say 61% of Wisconsin citizens support the right to collectively bargain and disagree with Walker trying to take that away.

Try again 48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...de_with_unions

mark2061mn 03-01-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 757182)
Try again 48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...de_with_unions

I believe that article is a national poll not Wisconsin residents. Riots poll numbers state Wisconsin residents.

wiphan 03-01-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 757037)
LMAO

you really have no clue do ya?

Dell quit trying. Reasoning with Riot is like trying to work out new contracts with the teachers union.

BTW- anybody want to talk about how MATC (for those outside of wisconsin) Milwaukee Area Technical College that quickly signed a 3 yr contract extension in an emergency meeting prior to Govenor Walker's proposal?

The biggest joke is the teachers union say they are willing to accept the cuts; however if they do not get rid of collective bargaining their word means absolutely nothing since they do not have the right to negotiate for every municipality in the state.

dellinger63 03-01-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mark2061mn (Post 757217)
I believe that article is a national poll not Wisconsin residents. Riots poll numbers state Wisconsin residents.

Riot put no link up to her poll though I suspect it's the USA Today national survey.

dellinger63 03-01-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 757223)
Dell quit trying. Reasoning with Riot is like trying to work out new contracts with the teachers union. .

I know twitter tells the whole story. No need to be here!


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