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Theatrical 08-07-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 679786)
i think they go for the record wins streak and then retire her. no classic, no trip, finish in california and send her to the broodmare barn. if they are unwilling to take on colts this year on poly, why would they want to on dirt? she loves it out west, loves the poly. she's won a classic, no need for another.

LOL. You know nothing about this mare. Nothing. Zero. Nada :)

Revidere 08-07-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 679805)
There's a huge difference in attempting to hold off Blame and attempting to run down Rinterval...

QR is placed in spots he can lose. Zenyatta is placed in spots where she would be embarrassed to lose.

He was 2/5 in the M/L!!!!! All of a sudden Blame is Kelso, Forego rolled into one.

Trust me, off those slow fractions, it was embarrasing for Quality road to lose.
Must have been the braid.

Revidere 08-07-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 679794)
Well because she's better on dirt, and they want to swoop in, beat all the big east coast challengers, and get HOY. I think they figure they can kill multiple birds with one stone here. They get her to enjoy all year in their own backyard, only have to ship once, and then voila she beats the prospective HOY candidates. They would at least have the co-win streak with Pepper's Pride (and obviously the most G1s w/o a loss) followed by the win they figure they get in the BCC, making her the leader outright.

And Quality Road has shipped where? Oh I forgot Florida. Belmont south.

hockey2315 08-07-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere (Post 679817)
He was 2/5 in the M/L!!!!! All of a sudden Blame is Kelso, Forego rolled into one.

Trust me, off those slow fractions, it was embarrasing for Quality road to lose.
Must have been the braid.

So Rinterval and Blame are basically equals? Quality Road looked very flat today, but come on.

stonegossard 08-07-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 679693)
You've never been around a brutal Narcissist. All you people are pssd about her, but you tune in to get your punishment. You all think (for at least a couple seconds each race) that you might have her beat. Then she punishes you yet again. Most of ya been trying to get her beat for what? 10 races? She punishes you, but also wants to keep giving you hope. That way, she knows you'll come back for another beating. You have a huge shot at beating her with BLAME, but don't bet money that you need.

Then in the end the voters for HOY punisher her for her lame campaigns. Because of The Moss's ridiculously conservative/boring campaign she will once again lose HOY honors. What ever happened to ZZZZZZZZZZZZZenyatta's connections planning a different 2010 campaign so fans at different racetracks could see her? I guess that tough race at OP against that monster field was enough.

Hopefully The Moss's will be content yet again to win Older Female Horse and nothing more. If she even wins that.

Rupert Pupkin 08-07-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 679786)
i think they go for the record wins streak and then retire her. no classic, no trip, finish in california and send her to the broodmare barn. if they are unwilling to take on colts this year on poly, why would they want to on dirt? she loves it out west, loves the poly. she's won a classic, no need for another.

That's an interesting theory but it's totally wrong. They have one goal right now and that goal is to win the BC Classic this year. There is no chance they retire her unless she gets hurt. Every move they make with her is designed to be what they think is the best path to the Classic.

By the way, they think she's better on dirt.

Rupert Pupkin 08-07-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 679822)
Then in the end the voters for HOY punisher her for her lame campaigns. Because of The Moss's ridiculously conservative/boring campaign she will once again lose HOY honors. What ever happened to ZZZZZZZZZZZZZenyatta's connections planning a different 2010 campaign so fans at different racetracks could see her? I guess that tough race at OP against that monster field was enough.

Hopefully The Moss's will be content yet again to win Older Female Horse and nothing more. If she even wins that.

It's a big "if" but if she wins the BC Classic this year, she's got to win HOY. Who else is going to get it?

randallscott35 08-07-2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679825)
It's a big "if" but if she wins the BC Classic this year, she's got to win HOY. Who else is going to get it?

The Baffert love affair never ceases to amaze. LAL maybe

stonegossard 08-07-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679825)
It's a big "if" but if she wins the BC Classic this year, she's got to win HOY. Who else is going to get it?

If she wins that joke of a race at SA coming up and The Classic then yes.....she will win HOY. But let's say she ran at Saratoga in The PE and Won vs a real field (Rachel and Pletcher's horse). Then goes to Belmont in The Beldame and beats another quality field....then goes to The BC and runs 2nd to some longshot in The Classic (obviously not Blame). She most likely would be named HOY. Well...by keeping her in So-Cal and running vs horrible horses The Moss's have made sure that scenario won't happen.

Crown@club 08-07-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 678444)
Paid workout, she wins by a measured length with a solid 87 Beyer. Of note Smith who won a rare race yesterday was sitting on 1 win for the Delmar meet thus far. That might be her biggest challenge.

Well won by a neck, but the Beyer is definitely going to be a very good prediction. The race was pathetically slow.

10 pnt move up 08-08-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 679836)
the Beyer is definitely going to be a very good prediction.

a prediction of what?

Smooth Operator 08-08-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 679822)
Then in the end the voters for HOY punisher her for her lame campaigns. Because of The Moss's ridiculously conservative/boring campaign she will once again lose HOY honors. What ever happened to ZZZZZZZZZZZZZenyatta's connections planning a different 2010 campaign so fans at different racetracks could see her? I guess that tough race at OP against that monster field was enough.

Hopefully The Moss's will be content yet again to win Older Female Horse and nothing more. If she even wins that.

IF she can pull off a couple more wins (prep race at SA and the BCC), we're talkin' immortality.


And that will drive the haters absolutely craZZZZZZZZZZZy...

Crown@club 08-08-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 679732)
Was this race shown live on the major networks or ESPN?

No?

I wonder why. Maybe it's because true sports fans don't fall for exhibitions for filthy rich cowards to show off their "SUPER HORSE." They'd rather watch poker or bowling. At least in those sports you don't see the stars ducking each other on a regular basis.

It was fitting SHEriffs was wearing pink today.

Now continue fawning over this horse who barely beat nothing.

AWESOME!!!! :tro:

Crown@club 08-08-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 679738)
agreed but I think she will run in the Distaff

I sure hope the connections of Goldikova is keeping an eye. Forget the mile, and find out if and where Zenyatta is running on BC day.

randallscott35 08-08-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 679847)
I sure hope the connections of Goldikova is keeping an eye. Forget the mile, and find out if and where Zenyatta is running on BC day.

I love her but shes a turf mare. That ain't changing.

Crown@club 08-08-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 679848)
I love her but shes a turf mare. That ain't changing.

I know. It's only a wish.

Crown@club 08-08-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 679841)
a prediction of what?

CSC said a Beyer of 87. After I watched the race this is what I was thinking and saw the post. So I figure I congratulate CSC on making the 87 Beyer prediction.

:zz:

TitanSooner 08-08-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 679853)
CSC said a Beyer of 87. After I watched the race this is what I was thinking and saw the post. So I figure I congratulate CSC on making the 87 Beyer prediction.

:zz:

whoopty doo

Indian Charlie 08-08-2010 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679809)
I constantly hear s-h-i-t about a lot of owners. I constantly hear that this person is an a-hole and that person is a prick, etc. But I've never heard anything bad about the Mosses. They are extremely popular. Everyone likes them.

I did hear one kind of funny thing about Moss. I know a guy who grew up with Moss in New York. When they were both 19 years old, they were pretty much broke. They had no money and they were working for peanuts. Anyway, he told me that Moss does not like talking about those days at all. It's a real sore subject with him. He is worth several hundred million dollars now and I guess he doesn't like to be reminded about the days when he was broke.

Yeah, you know, I used to like the Moss stable horses until last year. Not that I don't like the horses, but I find it hard to route for them since all the bullshidding and misdirection on Zenyatta.

Delicate Vine was awesome. I was a fan of Ruhlman too, to name a couple.

Then all this nonsense about not running her in the Gold Cup last year was so completely retarded, they were obviously making up lies to justify their lack of fortitude.

How about the lies about her being retired? Clearly anyone with an ounce of common sense could tell she wasn't being worked out for the joy of working out. Did you really believe she was never to race again, until they came out and said she was now 'unretired'???

How about their promise to be more daring with her this year?

Or their classic "Rocky Mountain" excuse?

Or their hemming and hawing about how they really were not that likely to run in todays race?

There's alot more.

Indian Charlie 08-08-2010 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679823)
That's an interesting theory but it's totally wrong. They have one goal right now and that goal is to win the BC Classic this year. There is no chance they retire her unless she gets hurt. Every move they make with her is designed to be what they think is the best path to the Classic.

By the way, they think she's better on dirt.

My goal is to win a Nobel Peace prize this year for having uncommon sense. Ain't gonna happen though.

If they do retire her prior to the BC, they will say she's hurt.

By the way, they say they think she's better on dirt. There's a big difference between saying it and thinking it. Which they don't.


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