Originally Posted by CSC (Post 660471)

Watch yourself, it is blasphemy to compare any horse to Personal Ensign on this board.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 660544)

I consider classic distance runners inherently superior to sprinters and strict milers, Indian boy.

If this Goldilocks is so great, why didn't they stick her in the BCC (or the BCT) last year?

Not surprisingly, both of those contests have significantly higher purses than the BCM.

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 660532)

Nice try. I read your initial response to me when you first posted it. I said your point about waiting for Zenyatta to retire was "well taken". However, you made your point with respect to comparing her to Personal Ensign in any fashion. In my mind, that meant you didn't want to compare the two anymore. Sorry. I didn't silence you, you silenced yourself.

Now you try to re-attach your retirement cop-out to only part of my post, the "ennui" comment. Ok. I'll bite. I'm not sure how you can get around the monotony of Zenyatta's campaign. It's not like one big race at the end erases the meek spotting the rest of the year.

To be fair, I based my comment on the belief that the Clement Hirsch will be next. Maybe we'll see a bumrush at the end instead with the Woodward, Jockey Club Gold Cup, and BC Classic. Or the Hollywood Gold Cup, Pacific Classic, BC Classic.

I won't hold my breath.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 660550)

Hang in there, bro

If Z can somehow, someway manage to take the BCC again this year, gunna need your help delivering all these servings of crow...

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 660544)

If this Goldilocks is so great, why didn't they stick her in the BCC (or the BCT) last year?

Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 660560)

The connections have no imagination, they refuse to challenge her..

Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 660560)

The connections have no imagination, they refuse to challenge her..

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 660566)

If she goes in the BC Classic, would we not all agree here this is somewhat a challenge?

Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 660568)

I wasn't serious.. She routinely faces males and travels all over, I think she's been challenged plenty.

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 660569)

That is the question all fans want answered, even Zenyatta's fans would say this. I wish she ran in the Foster but didn't so we are left with a fall campaign that may end at Belmont/CD. If so, it will answer some final questions, right?

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 660427)

i said banshree breeze was a better horse. she was clearly the more consistent horse and accomlished a hell of a lot more on track than keeper hill. however, when they met on the racetrack, for whatever cicumstances there wasnt a lot separating them. and at keeper hill's best, she could beat banshhe breeze and did, twice. that is what i am saying, which leads me to think banshee breeze would have little to no shot vs zenyatta or rachel alexandra.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 660515)

I'm still reeling from the unfair smackdown to the mighty Swan.

Originally Posted by rgustafson (Post 660583)

Hey Andy, comment not meant to be a putdown on King's Swan. He was a neat horse and they don't make them like that anymore. 107 lifetime starts and he was first or second in fifty of those, winning Graded Stakes from six furlongs to 1 1/8 miles.:)

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 660511)

Gulch was defeated by Java Gold, Polish Navy, Lost Code, Cryptoclearance, Cutlass Reality, Alysheba, Bet Twice, and Personal Ensign. If I have my facts right, those are the only horses to beat him at 9f (at least in the 7 9f races I came up with).

I think it's pretty lofty company.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 660550)

Hang in there, bro

If Z can somehow, someway manage to take the BCC again this year, gunna need your help delivering all these servings of crow...

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 660575)

I've watched and analyzed Zenyatta's two Apple Blossom wins as carefully as I can ... and for the life of me I can't find ANYTHING about those two races to suggest a horse like Banshee Breeze would have little to no shot against her on dirt. Based on those two races - I'm of the oppposite opinion if anything.