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ateamstupid 03-14-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
-10 2-2-2

I guess the Richmond game could have been worse. Nice call on the Cats game coach.

If Temple wasn't trying to run the clock out with 6:00 to go they would've covered easily. Gahhh.

dalakhani 03-14-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
If Temple wasn't trying to run the clock out with 6:00 to go they would've covered easily. Gahhh.

It was an interesting strategy to say the least. Players got tentative and thats when Richmond made their run. Richmond is a solid team though. A shame they won't make the tourney.

philcski 03-14-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
It was an interesting strategy to say the least. Players got tentative and thats when Richmond made their run. Richmond is a solid team though. A shame they won't make the tourney.

What? They're going to be wearing white jerseys in the first round. 6 or 7 seed.

I've changed my mind... Mississippi State gets my last spot, win or lose. When it comes down to it their neutral court performance outweighs Virginia Tech. Full bracket shortly.

Coach Pants 03-14-2010 02:20 PM

Mississippi State doesn't deserve to go. To foul with 8 seconds left up 3 with UK having to go full court was ****ing retarded.

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
It was an interesting strategy to say the least. Players got tentative and thats when Richmond made their run. Richmond is a solid team though. A shame they won't make the tourney.

Huh???

dalakhani 03-14-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
What? They're going to be wearing white jerseys in the first round. 6 or 7 seed.

I've changed my mind... Mississippi State gets my last spot, win or lose. When it comes down to it their neutral court performance outweighs Virginia Tech. Full bracket shortly.

Thanks Phil. You guys are the bracketologists. You really think they will be that high?

Ky got really lucky today.

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
Thanks Phil. You guys are the bracketologists. You really think they will be that high?

Ky got really lucky today.

They have an RPI of 21, went 5-3 against the RPI top 50, 12-6 in road/neutral games and were 13-3 in the 7th best conference. They'll be an 8 at worst.

Temple's really dangerous, they just played with their heads up their asses the last six minutes.

dalakhani 03-14-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Huh???

I will be the first to tell you that i don't know much about bracketology although i love watching basketball. I am anxiously awaiting your blog this week when the pairings are set.

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Georgia Tech +9
110/100

Temple -4
110/100

12-10-1
+5

Some good, some bad, clean slate for the tournament. My goodness the ACC blows. Dogs finished 10-0-1 in Greensboro.

philcski 03-14-2010 02:29 PM

Final bracket.
Last 4 in: Mississippi State, Cal, Minnesota, Utah State
Last 4 out: Virginia Tech, William & Mary, Florida, Illinois
Note * Clemson swapped with UNLV to avoid matchup with Wake Forest
Code:

REGION        S-CURVE        SEED        TEAM        POD        Times        REGIONAL        Times
MIDWEST        1        1        Kansas        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        63        16        Lehigh        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        32        8        San Diego State        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        33        9        Notre Dame        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        17        5        Texas A&M        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        48        12        Murray State        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        16        4        Wisconsin        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        49        13        Mississippi State        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        8        2        Georgetown        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        57        15        Vermont        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        25        7        Xavier        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        40        10        Oklahoma State        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        9        3        Villanova        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        56        14        UC Santa Barbara        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        24        6        Michigan State        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
        41        11        Utah State        Providence        Thu/Sat        St Louis        Fri/Sun
WEST        4        1        West Virginia        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        61        16        Robert Morris        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        29        8        Clemson        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        36        9        Old Dominion        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        20        5        Maryland        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        45        12        Siena        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        13        4        Temple        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        52        13        Wofford        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        5        2        Duke        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        60        15        North Texas        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        28        7        Texas        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        37        10        Louisville        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        12        3        New Mexico        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        53        14        Sam Houston State        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        21        6        Northern Iowa        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
        44        11        Missouri        Spokane        Fri/Sun        Salt Lake        Thu/Sat
SOUTH        3        1        Syracuse        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Houston        Fri/Sun
        62        16        East Tennessee State        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Houston        Fri/Sun
        30        8        Marquette        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Houston        Fri/Sun
        35        9        Georgia Tech        Buffalo        Fri/Sun        Houston        Fri/Sun
        19        5        Vanderbilt        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        46        12        Minnesota        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        14        4        Tennessee        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        51        13        Oakland        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        6        2        Kansas State        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        59        15        Ohio        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        27        7        UNLV        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        38        10        Wake Forest        New Orleans        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        11        3        Pittsburgh        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        54        14        Houston        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        22        6        Richmond        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
        43        11        Cornell        San Jose        Thu/Sat        Houston        Fri/Sun
EAST        2        1        Kentucky        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        64        16        Winthrop        Milwaukee (PIG vs #65 ARK-PINE BLUFF)        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        31        8        Florida State        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        34        9        UTEP        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        18        5        Butler        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        47        12        California        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        15        4        Purdue        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        50        13        New Mexico State        Jacksonville        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        7        2        Ohio State        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        58        15        Morgan State        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        26        7        Gonzaga        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        39        10        Washington        Milwaukee        Fri/Sun        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        10        3        Baylor        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        55        14        Montana        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        23        6        BYU        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        Syracuse        Thu/Sat
        42        11        Saint Mary's College        Oklahoma City        Thu/Sat        Syracuse        Thu/Sat


Cannon Shell 03-14-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Forget my rant...I just dislike college basketball, not hate, but I really think they should be compensated with more than a scholarship..anyone else agree at all?

Uhh...some of them are... kinda on the dow low...you know?

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 04:47 PM

My final prediction for the field:

Quote:

So here we are, college basketball's version of Election Night. the dust has all but settled after 4+ months of college basketball, and we enter the final two hours before the brackets are revealed with most of the field set. But as always, there's a group of teams that will be fighting for the final 2 or 3 bids. This was one of the weaker bubbles in recent memory, so all of these teams will have fatal flaws, and the picture is a little blurrier than I allowed last night. But let's start with what we know. Here are your final consensus at-large locks:

Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, Notre Dame, Villanova, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Clemson, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Kansas State, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Oklahoma State, UTEP, Gonzaga, Xavier, Richmond, New Mexico, BYU, UNLV

If you're going by what most people are saying, that leaves 5 bids for this contingent: Utah State, California, Minnesota, Illinois, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Mississippi State, Florida, Seton Hall, Rhode Island, Mississippi

Well I, for one, refuse to believe that UTEP is a lock and Utah State isn't. Let's compare the two.

• UTEP, 39 RPI, 111 SOS, 26-6 (15-1), 2-1 v RPI TOP 50, 8-4 v RPI TOP 100, 18-2 v RPI 101+, 11-4 R/N, 167 AVG RPI WIN, 73 AVG RPI LOSS
• UTAH STATE, 31 RPI, 100 SOS, 26-7 (14-2), 2-1 v RPI TOP 50, 10-5 v RPI TOP 100, 16-2 v RPI 101+, 10-6 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 168, 80 AVG RPI LOSS

Again, I'd love to hear the difference between those two teams. Conventional wisdom says Conference USA is better than the WAC. Conventional wisdom is dumb. The RPI ranks the WAC (10th) AHEAD of C-USA (11th). So if Utah State's name isn't on a line tonight, I don't expect UTEP's to be either. 4 bids.

Cal is in. I know, the Bears are only 1-6 against the RPI top 50, but there's no way they're getting left out. They've looked very strong since losing at Oregon State on 2/18 and their computer profile is stellar relative to other bubble teams. They'll be wearing road jerseys, but they'll be playing on Thursday or Friday. 3 bids.

Minnesota's getting in. The Gophers are hurt by only going 9-9 in the Big Ten and took a lopsided loss to Ohio State in the Big Ten final, but their run in the conference tourney, plus their absolute obliteration of Purdue on Saturday was enough to convince the committee that they're good enough to win games in the tournament. 2 bids.

Now it gets less clear cut. 2 bids are left for 8 pretty evenly matched teams. These are the teams that'll be sweating it out for the next hour or so. Here's their respective at-large credentials on paper:

• ILLINOIS, 75 RPI, 35 SOS, 19-14 (10-8), 5-9 v RPI TOP 50, 6-10 v RPI TOP 100, 13-4 v RPI 101+, 7-10 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 158, AVG RPI LOSS 56
• WAKE FOREST, 37 RPI, 29 SOS, 19-10 (9-7), 6-5 v RPI TOP 50, 9-10 v RPI TOP 100, 10-0 v RPI 101+, 6-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 131, AVG RPI LOSS 60
• VIRGINIA TECH, 60 RPI, 133 SOS, 23-8 (10-6), 3-4 v RPI TOP 50, 8-7 v RPI TOP 100, 15-1 v RPI 101+, 8-7 R/N, AVG RPI WIN AVG RPI WIN 170, AVG RPI LOSS 61
• MISSISSIPPI STATE, 56 RPI, 97 SOS, 23-11 (11-5), 2-5 v RPI TOP 50, 7-7 v RPI TOP 100, 16-4 v RPI 101+, 10-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 158, AVG RPI LOSS 73
• FLORIDA, 54 RPI, 33 SOS, 21-12 (9-7), 3-8 v RPI TOP 50, 8-10 v RPI TOP 100, 13-2 v RPI 101+, 8-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 155, AVG RPI LOSS 48
• SETON HALL, 61 RPI, 31 SOS, 19-12 (9-9), 4-9 v RPI TOP 50, 6-12 v RPI TOP 100, 13-0 v RPI 101+, 6-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 153, AVG RPI LOSS 29
• RHODE ISLAND, 40 RPI, 73 SOS, 23-9 (9-7), 1-5 v RPI TOP 50, 7-7 v RPI TOP 100, 16-2 v RPI 101+, 11-6 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 152, AVG RPI LOSS 61
• MISSISSIPPI, 62 RPI, 69 SOS, 21-10 (9-7), 2-6 v RPI TOP 50, 4-9 v RPI TOP 100, 18-2 v RPI 101+, 9-6 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 151, AVG RPI LOSS 40

I think we can cross out the last three teams in this group. Seton Hall had a good year against a tough schedule, but in the end, 6-12 against the top 100 isn't going to get it done. Rhode Island's one win against the top 50 won't cut it either, nor will Ole Miss' four wins against the top 100. So it's down to 5 teams for 2 bids.

Wake looks like it doesn't belong on the list with the other four, but the Demon Deacons were simply awful down the stretch, punctuated by an embarrassing blowout at the hands of 12-seed Miami (FL) in the ACC tournament's first round. Illinois got a much needed win against Wisconsin and took Ohio State to double overtime, but the Illini lost six of eight games to close the season. Virginia Tech went 10-6 in the ACC, but has nothing to show for its nonconference slate, and has an embarrassing average RPI win of 170. Mississippi State has a lot of bad losses, but put itself back into the discussion with a strong SEC tourney run capped by a brutal overtime loss against Kentucky. So who makes it?

It's an extremely tough call and I wouldn't really have any complaints about any pair from those five teams making it, but in the end I'll go with Florida and Wake Forest. The Gators had a decent nonconference output, played a tough schedule and split with Mississippi State in the head-to-head matchup. As difficult as it is to open the door for the Deacs with how bad they've been down the stretch, they simply have accomplished too much this season to banish them to the NIT.

As for the ones I left out, Illinois was the toughest not to include, since, as you'll recall, I had the Illini in the tournament yesterday. But they just had a few too many headscratching losses that nullified their big wins. Mississippi State has nobody to blame but itself if the Bulldogs don't get in. Losing to Rider, Western Kentucky, Arkansas and Auburn just outweighs their two quality wins and today's strong performance against Kentucky. And Virginia Tech, to me, is this year's Penn State. The Hokies' 10-6 record in conference is big, but their schedule was just too weak to justify putting them in over Florida or Wake.

There it is! Less than a half-hour to go. I'll be back later, of course, with first reactions to the brackets. Enjoy the show everybody, we made it!

65-team field prediction
AQs: Cornell, Winthrop, East Tennessee State, Murray State, Northern Iowa, Old Dominion, Siena, St. Mary's (CA), Wofford, North Texas, Butler, Oakland, Robert Morris, Montana, Lehigh, Houston, Vermont, Morgan State, Sam Houston State, Kansas, Ohio, Washington, San Diego State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, UC Santa Barbara, West Virginia, New Mexico State, Temple, Kentucky, Duke, Ohio State

At-larges: Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, Notre Dame, Villanova, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Clemson, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Kansas State, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Oklahoma State, UTEP, Gonzaga, Xavier, Richmond, New Mexico, BYU, UNLV, Utah State, California, Minnesota, Florida, Wake Forest

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 04:57 PM

I think the last bid is between Florida and Illinois. I took the Gators, but wouldn't be surprised if the Illini get it.

Cannon Shell 03-14-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
My final prediction for the field:

Good stuff

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 05:24 PM

32 out of 32 so far. Going into the last half of the bracket, things are looking good for Illinois/Mississippi State/Virginia Tech, bad for Utah State. Florida gets a 10, Minnesota an 11 and UTEP only a 12. Wake gets a 9. :zz:

philcski 03-14-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
32 out of 32 so far. Going into the last half of the bracket, things are looking good for Illinois/Mississippi State/Virginia Tech, bad for Utah State. Florida gets a 10, Minnesota an 11 and UTEP only a 12. Wake gets a 9. :zz:

Guess they let Wake off the hook for the bad finish. I'm OK with that. Not sure I love the Florida 10 seed. I can buy them getting in but ahead of 5-6 bubble teams seems wrong. They have one good win since November.

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 05:37 PM

65 outta 65 baby. I'm coming for that ass Lunardi.

philcski 03-14-2010 05:40 PM

I got 64 out of 65. Swap Florida for Mississippi State. I have no problem with that selection by the committee whatsoever, but again I think Mississippi State deserved it head to head against Florida based on the win just this week.

philcski 03-14-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
65 outta 65 baby. I'm coming for that ass Lunardi.

Sweet ****in job Joey. I thought the committee did a great job overall other than a few wacky seeds (which might have reasoning) and their new era of matching mid-major with mid-major.

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
I got 64 out of 65. Swap Florida for Mississippi State. I have no problem with that selection by the committee whatsoever, but again I think Mississippi State deserved it head to head against Florida based on the win just this week.

I don't think there's any way in hell Florida deserved a 10, but their overall resume beats Mississippi State's by a good margin, which was enough to offset the head-to-head loss on Friday.


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