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philcski 03-29-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Did I not say in that post was about people who can work but arent looking for jobs dont deserve free insurance. When have I said a person doesnt deserve insurance if the have a pre existing condition EINSTEIN?

THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BILL THAT PROVIDES FREE INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE NOT WORKING AND NOT LOOKING FOR JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Remember when I asked you where you get your news? It was because they are obviously feeding you lies and lines of bullshit because clearly you are not grasping this.

Coach Pants 03-29-2010 12:27 PM

He gets his news from the local McDonald's senior table.

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Not exactly.



Nothing in there about working....all about 'too bad if you're unhealthy, I've already got my insurance, screw you.'


Screw you too. I bet you my insurance is way better than yours. Enjoy your insurance. Im enjoying mine.

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BILL THAT PROVIDES FREE INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE NOT WORKING AND NOT LOOKING FOR JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Remember when I asked you where you get your news? It was because they are obviously feeding you lies and lines of bullshit because clearly you are not grasping this.


For now there's not but I dont trust the shithead in DC.

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
He gets his news from the local McDonald's senior table.


I love talking to the senior citizens.

brianwspencer 03-29-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Screw you too. I bet you my insurance is way better than yours. Enjoy your insurance. Im enjoying mine.

Well considering I never said "screw you" to you, that's awfully pleasant of you to say that.

God you're insufferable. And a wild embarrassment, too.

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Well considering I never said "screw you" to you, that's awfully pleasant of you to say that.

God you're insufferable. And a wild embarrassment, too.


Whatever. Then why did you put it in there?

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BILL THAT PROVIDES FREE INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE NOT WORKING AND NOT LOOKING FOR JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Remember when I asked you where you get your news? It was because they are obviously feeding you lies and lines of bullshit because clearly you are not grasping this.


Speaking of bullshit how are you doing today?

brianwspencer 03-29-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Whatever. Then why did you put it in there?

Weren't you the one admonishing people to learn to read just hours ago?

FFS.

herkhorse 03-29-2010 03:13 PM

:D :D :D this is great comedy. He doesn't even realize that you were paraphrasing his own post. Why you guys bother is beyond me. The sad thing is that there are millions of Nascars in this country, on both sides. Were fu*ked.

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
:D :D :D this is great comedy. He doesn't even realize that you were paraphrasing his own post. Why you guys bother is beyond me. The sad thing is that there are millions of Nascars in this country, on both sides. Were fu*ked.


I dont appreciate seeing screw you even if it was a paraphrasing my post. So your right we are f cked. People here just give a f ck about themselves. They could care less about some one else's view. If its not what they belive in then tyhe other person who makes the comment is in the bad. I might disagree with someone's post but I will at least look and respect the fact they had the courage to voice thier opinion. Seems like alot of people here could care less about this country going down the tubes.

brianwspencer 03-29-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
:D :D :D this is great comedy. He doesn't even realize that you were paraphrasing his own post. Why you guys bother is beyond me. The sad thing is that there are millions of Nascars in this country, on both sides. Were fu*ked.

:D

And actually, now that I'm self-employed, my health insurance sucks. I mean, I guess if I lose both legs or a drunk driver slams me into a light pole at 60 mph, they might actually pay something and make my premiums worth it...but I'm just throwing money down the drain unless something huge and catastrophic like that happens...otherwise I'm just handing them a fairly nice sum of my money every month and still paying everything out of pocket anyway. It's nearly unrecognizable as helpful insurance.

But strangely, when I was employed by a mega-corporation and had fabulous insurance, I never once had that entitled feeling of, "well, my insurance is rad, too bad for you sucker. If you're unhealthy and die, screw you, I'll still be good. PS, can I have some more money from the government? No? Oh, well F*CK OBAMA THEN!"

Actually, I think that if Nascar would just copy/paste that quote from my last paragraph, he could get the same point across every time without actually having to worry about typing out new words. If only I could add something about the Haitians and their AIDS, then it'd be all-encompassing.

Nascar1966 03-29-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
:D

And actually, now that I'm self-employed, my health insurance sucks. I mean, I guess if I lose both legs or a drunk driver slams me into a light pole at 60 mph, they might actually pay something and make my premiums worth it...but I'm just throwing money down the drain unless something huge and catastrophic like that happens...otherwise I'm just handing them a fairly nice sum of my money every month and still paying everything out of pocket anyway. It's nearly unrecognizable as helpful insurance.

But strangely, when I was employed by a mega-corporation and had fabulous insurance, I never once had that entitled feeling of, "well, my insurance is rad, too bad for you sucker. If you're unhealthy and die, screw you, I'll still be good. PS, can I have some more money from the government? No? Oh, well F*CK OBAMA THEN!"

Actually, I think that if Nascar would just copy/paste that quote from my last paragraph, he could get the same point across every time without actually having to worry about typing out new words. If only I could add something about the Haitians and their AIDS, then it'd be all-encompassing.


Thank you for expressing your opinion. I am glad im your hero.


:)

Cannon Shell 03-29-2010 07:59 PM

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=424

hi_im_god 03-29-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

does that say more about where the democratic party has moved or the republican?

playing footsie with the tea party while uniformly voting against social legislation just says there's no room for a nelson rockefeller or edward brooke in the republican party anymore.

the democrats remain a center-left party while the republicans have chosen to give up the center and become a european style strict discipline ideological party. it should be an interesting experiment.

Honu 03-29-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
does that say more about where the democratic party has moved or the republican?

playing footsie with the tea party while uniformly voting against social legislation just says there's no room for a nelson rockefeller or edward brooke in the republican party anymore.

the democrats remain a center-left party while the republicans have chosen to give up the center and become a european style strict discipline ideological party. it should be an interesting experiment.


And you are speaking for all Republicans or just the one's you see and hear on tv? I am fiscally conservitive and socially liberal. I want the feds to preserve my life liberty and pursuit of happiness and the rest Id surely like to be able to control for myself.

Cannon Shell 03-29-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
does that say more about where the democratic party has moved or the republican?

playing footsie with the tea party while uniformly voting against social legislation just says there's no room for a nelson rockefeller or edward brooke in the republican party anymore.

the democrats remain a center-left party while the republicans have chosen to give up the center and become a european style strict discipline ideological party. it should be an interesting experiment.

Perhaps you can make that assumption or you can make the assumption that the bill passed was so convoluted that it got no bipartisan and lost some democratic support.

I think more importantly what you can come away with is the idea that the GOP has been in lockstep against the other major social reforms passed in the past is fiction but you wouldn't know that from listening to the pundits.

hi_im_god 03-29-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
And you are speaking for all Republicans or just the one's you see and hear on tv? I am fiscally conservitive and socially liberal. I want the feds to preserve my life liberty and pursuit of happiness and the rest Id surely like to be able to control for myself.

i didn't invent the term rino.

if you'd like a debate with people that aren't looking to marginalize you, come on over and argue with us. we have room for dennis kucinich and ben nelson. i'm pretty sure we already have several million with your views.

outside of scuds, none are looking to throw you out if you join.

hi_im_god 03-29-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Perhaps you can make that assumption or you can make the assumption that the bill passed was so convoluted that it got no bipartisan and lost some democratic support.

I think more importantly what you can come away with is the idea that the GOP has been in lockstep against the other major social reforms passed in the past is fiction but you wouldn't know that from listening to the pundits.

you say this because you think republicans in this congress would vote with their colleagues from the 30's on social security? or their colleagues from the 60's on medicare?

i think they'd be lockstep against both.

have i completely misread the situation?

Cannon Shell 03-29-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
you say this because you think republicans in this congress would vote with their colleagues from the 30's on social security? or their colleagues from the 60's on medicare?

i think they'd be lockstep against both.

have i completely misread the situation?

That is the point. Who knows what would happen? But what HAS happened has been misrepresented.


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