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Danzig 10-13-2008 08:51 PM

geeker asked a simple question (seemingly) nine pages ago, and hasn't got an answer yet.
seems it's far easier to proclaim what the problems are, rather than the solutions offered.

Cannon Shell 10-13-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Stats are available all over the net. Seeing that you extensive knowledge on internet searches, you should be able to find all that you need.

Why is that difficult?

Just give me the the approved list please...

dalakhani 10-13-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
geeker asked a simple question (seemingly) nine pages ago, and hasn't got an answer yet.
seems it's far easier to proclaim what the problems are, rather than the solutions offered.

I answered it.

Cannon Shell 10-13-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
geeker asked a simple question (seemingly) nine pages ago, and hasn't got an answer yet.
seems it's far easier to proclaim what the problems are, rather than the solutions offered.

Bush sucks, change, greedy Corporations, evil rich people...oops sorry geeker, please punish me now...

Cannon Shell 10-13-2008 09:09 PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122393387064230201.html

Mortimer 10-13-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Morty is watching...


No he isn't.




Ratty-O.

Danzig 10-13-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I answered it.

those three points you made? that's what he'll do? well, whoopie. i don't care how good a speaker is-actions speak louder than any words; he can't lower taxes unless congress sends him a bill to lower taxes, and the war will end whether he gets in there or not.
and the middle class might be happy with a tax break, but when the businesses they work for leave on the same track as those who have gone before, to cheaper labor south of the border for instance, it won't do those folks much good. raising corporate taxes is not a way to grow the economy, to create jobs...it will however temporarily raise the amount of spending that obama has promised. the 'evil' businesses we all either work for or operate pay a lot already-much of their employees health care, they equal the amount taken out in social security benefits, pay workers comp and unemployment insurance, etc. and now a tax increase on the people who pay all our wages. you really think the owners, stockholders, top execs are going to take a hit to pay for that loss? hell no. that will trickle down to the workers as well. two things happen when a business sees less on the bottom line. what can we cut, what prices can we raise? it's never, gee, i guess i'll take a hit on my income so my workers still get their due.

Mortimer 10-13-2008 09:10 PM

By the way--the initial emotional edge seems to have run out.





The second have could get rated CP.

geeker2 10-13-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Bush sucks, change, greedy Corporations, evil rich people...oops sorry geeker, please punish me now...


I think you summed it up nicely :tro:

dalakhani 10-13-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
those three points you made? that's what he'll do? well, whoopie. i don't care how good a speaker is-actions speak louder than any words; he can't lower taxes unless congress sends him a bill to lower taxes, and the war will end whether he gets in there or not.
and the middle class might be happy with a tax break, but when the businesses they work for leave on the same track as those who have gone before, to cheaper labor south of the border for instance, it won't do those folks much good. raising corporate taxes is not a way to grow the economy, to create jobs...it will however temporarily raise the amount of spending that obama has promised. the 'evil' businesses we all either work for or operate pay a lot already-much of their employees health care, they equal the amount taken out in social security benefits, pay workers comp and unemployment insurance, etc. and now a tax increase on the people who pay all our wages. you really think the owners, stockholders, top execs are going to take a hit to pay for that loss? hell no. that will trickle down to the workers as well. two things happen when a business sees less on the bottom line. what can we cut, what prices can we raise? it's never, gee, i guess i'll take a hit on my income so my workers still get their due.

You said "no one answered geeker's question" which i told you was incorrect because i did in fact answer it. Now, if i didnt answer how you wanted me to, thats just too bad.

dalakhani 10-13-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
I think you summed it up nicely :tro:

And your reply right there shows how disingenuous this whole topic was and that is why I really felt it didnt deserve an answer. Thanks for showing your hand.

Danzig 10-13-2008 09:18 PM

This is a thread to convince all us non believers- so let's hear all the good that Obama will do



that was geekers question. so, no, you didn't answer as apparently you have yet to convince a non-believer.


edit~personally, i was hoping for some good, worthwhile answers. i'm still undecided.

dalakhani 10-13-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
This is a thread to convince all us non believers- so let's hear all the good that Obama will do



that was geekers question. so, no, you didn't answer as apparently you have yet to convince a non-believer.

its not my job. Ask obama.

Cannon Shell 10-13-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
And your reply right there shows how disingenuous this whole topic was and that is why I really felt it didnt deserve an answer. Thanks for showing your hand.

Then why did you?

dalakhani 10-13-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Then why did you?

LOL. i will remove my answer. waste of time anyway.

Danzig 10-13-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
its not my job. Ask obama.

um, yeah..i'll do that. :rolleyes:

all this endless harping about what has been done has done nothing to tell me what will be done. apparently no one really knows.

Cannon Shell 10-13-2008 09:21 PM

The "tax plan" that Dala doesnt want you know about...

Cannon Shell 10-13-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
LOL. i will remove my answer. waste of time anyway.

It was not a waste of time...a bit far fetched but still worth our time.

dalakhani 10-13-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The "tax plan" that Dala doesnt want you know about...

yes dala conspiracy. I want to hide op eds from WSJ.

Get ready for that tax plan big boy. Just a few months away.

geeker2 10-13-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
And your reply right there shows how disingenuous this whole topic was and that is why I really felt it didnt deserve an answer. Thanks for showing your hand.


Hey I am not pi$$ing Chuck off - he trains our horses.


As far as the thread - I think it lost it's focus a few pages ago...but your response was truthful and for that Morty will PM you a picture of his (_!_).


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