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dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.

Coach Pants 10-07-2008 10:23 AM


geeker2 10-07-2008 10:26 AM

Attachment 1022

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:27 AM

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...t/1990/BCE.htm

How about here?

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 10:30 AM

http://www.tampabayskeptics.org/v11n2rpt.html

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Two trusted scholars? How do we know that? major US universities have tenured professors that believe in UFO's. Bush went to an Ivy league school and according to you he is an idiot.

LOL

HE IS THE DEAN OF THE John F Kennedy School of government at

HARVARD UNIVERSITY


.

Antitrust32 10-07-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?


You said that I support the withdraw of US support for Isreal, which is not true. In fact, you put a lot of words into my mouth by making assumptions about my posts that were not true. The only thing i said was our support of Isreal is the main core reason we are hated by the ME.

I dont disagree with your statements above. I just dont feel we need to be so high up Isreals asses like we are. And we can keep some of that money and use it towards that grand ol' U S of A.

Mortimer 10-07-2008 10:32 AM

I got somethin' for yer mouth right ovah heah,baby.

Coach Pants 10-07-2008 10:32 AM

ehhh fuc

Antitrust32 10-07-2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.

DalaHO, you really kicked his butt in the debate considering the only thing you can call him out on is a three year difference in when the country was formed. :zz: Way to go, you should be so proud you are still an idiot!! :tro:

Antitrust32 10-07-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I got somethin' for yer mouth right ovah heah,baby.

Your fist?

Coach Pants 10-07-2008 10:40 AM


dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
DalaHO, you really kicked his butt in the debate considering the only thing you can call him out on is a three year difference in when the country was formed. :zz: Way to go, you should be so proud you are still an idiot!! :tro:

The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

Coach Pants 10-07-2008 10:42 AM


dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Where is the love for my vikes pick coach?

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
You act as if there is such a thing as "the jewish vote"

this is a beauty for someone as educated as yourself

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

I garnered that you are a typical arrogant liberal who comes with nothing of substance except attacks on other posters who may not agree with your politics or 'values'. You denied the existance of jews as a voting bloc, threw out the 'Isreal lobby' as a bunch of neocons and Republicans and blamed them for everything. Then posted some opinion papers that we are supposed to take as fact and called people names. yeah you suported your position well, so well we dont even know what it is except to blast Republicans and lesbians.

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
You said that I support the withdraw of US support for Isreal, which is not true. In fact, you put a lot of words into my mouth by making assumptions about my posts that were not true. The only thing i said was our support of Isreal is the main core reason we are hated by the ME.

I dont disagree with your statements above. I just dont feel we need to be so high up Isreals asses like we are. And we can keep some of that money and use it towards that grand ol' U S of A.

Would not a big cut in economic aid be regarded as a lack of support?:wf

dalakhani 10-07-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
this is a beauty for someone as educated as yourself

First a post with UFO's and now this?

First of all, you brought the "jewish vote" in in regards to the Israel lobby as if they were one in the same when in fact they are not.

Secondly, the idea that all Jewish people vote the same is ridiculous. yes, chuck, Jewish people vote. Many are democrats. You do realize though the history of the neo con movement and their involvement with the Israel lobby dont you? You do realize that many Neo cons are jewish dont you? Most importantly, YOU DO REALIZE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND NOT JEWISH VOTERS DONT YOU?



This is a bad subject because so few understand much beyond what has been fed. Its just like the economy.

Mortimer 10-07-2008 11:17 AM

I'm sick and I'm leaving.


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