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Rupert Pupkin 06-07-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Hey just to clarify I'm not questioning what you heard, I'm just saying there is a inconsistency in the degree of how bad Touch Gold's hoof was, infact it plagued him the rest of his career if I am not mistaken.

When they grab a quarter, that can take some time to heal too. We had a filly that grabbed a quarter a couple of years ago and she needed a few weeks off. And when you miss a few weeks of training that means you're not going to be able to run for a couple of months. We had actually been invited to run in the $750,000 Grade I American Oaks and we had to skip the race because of the grabbed quarter. I don't think the filly's feet were ever really the same after that. She always seemed to have little problmes with her feet after that. It was a shame because she had never had foot problems before she stumbled and grabbed the quarter.

Cannon Shell 06-07-2008 10:02 PM

I believe Gary Lockett will feel much worse than BB in the morning:zz:

Cannon Shell 06-07-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I could totally be one of those guys that stands behind a champion fighter.....

Yes you could

GBBob 06-07-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You don't have a pair of sandals?

I'm feeling a yearling name coming on

CSC 06-07-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
When they grab a quarter, that can take some time to heal too. We had a filly that grabbed a quarter a couple of years ago and she needed a few weeks off. And when you miss a few weeks of training that means you're not going to be able to run for a couple of months. We had actually been invited to run in the $750,000 Grade I American Oaks and we had to skip the race because of the grabbed quarter. I don't think the filly's feet were ever really the same after that. She always seemed to have little problmes with her feet after that. It was a shame because she had never had foot problems before she stumbled and grabbed the quarter.

Thanks for the info Rupert, now I am left guessing who that horse was? BTW I don't know if you feel comfortable talking about this on a public forum but why did Stronach separate himself from Hoffmans after they had a pretty good year. A Plate, A Lexington and a Belmont is not too shabby.

Scav 06-07-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I'm feeling a yearling name coming on

NoSandalsAllowed

Mens feet ewww

Sandalfetish

cowgirlintexas 06-07-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
NoSandalsAllowed

Mens feet ewww

Sandalfetish

Love it! :D Way to go Scav!!

Rupert Pupkin 06-07-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Thanks for the info Rupert, now I am left guessing who that horse was? BTW I don't know if you feel comfortable talking about this on a public forum but why did Stronach separate himself from Hoffmans after they had a pretty good year. A Plate, A Lexington and a Belmont is not too shabby.

I don't know anything about the Hofmans/Stronach split.

phystech 06-07-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I could totally be one of those guys that stands behind a champion fighter.....

I never liked the guys that stood behind me in a fight....because I absorbed all of the punches.... 8-)

GBBob 06-07-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
NoSandalsAllowed

Mens feet ewww

Sandalfetish

badfeetnosandal

flipoffflipflop (good luck Trevor)

cameltoenotscavtoe

Scav 06-07-2008 10:13 PM

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I never liked the guys that stood behind me in a fight....because I absorbed all of the punches.... 8-)

Why do you think I want to be that guy, and not the boxer? NO THANK YOU!!

Scav 06-07-2008 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
badfeetnosandal

flipoffflipflop (good luck Trevor)

cameltoenotscavtoe

That last one is CLASSIC and I bet that they wouldn't catch it either....

GBBob 06-07-2008 10:16 PM

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That last one is CLASSIC and I bet that they wouldn't catch it either....

we won't be finding out :cool:

Bobby Fischer 06-07-2008 10:17 PM

the 2008 Belmont was Liston vs. Ali.



With no Ali.


no Liston.

no sports illustrated.

No "phantom punch". All we got were some club fighters, and the mob.

It was Liston & Ali muzak.

Scav 06-07-2008 10:17 PM

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we won't be finding out :cool:

It could become a cult classic like 'Thong or Panties"

Damn horse won again today

CSC 06-07-2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I don't know anything about the Hofmans/Stronach split.

That's a shame. Seems like a pattern with Frank.

Danzig 06-07-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Hofmans was the trainer of Touch Gold. He would have no reason to lie to my trainer in a private conversation. Hofmans said that the horse grabbed a quarter in the Preakness.

Chuck could do a 100x better job than me explaining the difference between grabbing a quarter vs. a quarter crack.

Cannon, Could you please explain the difference between the two.

grabbing a quarter is when a horse basically trips himself up, usually one of his back feet hitting one of his front, and possibly taking off a piece of hoof, or the shoe, in the process.
war admiraly famously grabbed a quarter in the belmont, came back to the winners circle with blood all over his underside. the injury was serious enough that they almost retired him. luckily (or else seasbiscuit might not be quite so famous) he was able to return to racing.
a quarter crack is a flaw in the hoof wall, which of course everyone probably saw on big brown-it's like a hangnail in a human, only in this case, a horse is putting about two hundred and fifty pounds on the hoof. it can get pretty serious-and a horse can lose time letting one grow out. a horses hoof is actually made of the same tissue as a fingernail-he basically stands on an evolved toe nail--horses used to have toes, now they stand on tiptoe on the one toe they have left.

GBBob 06-07-2008 10:52 PM

ouch:)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...sportCat=horse

The Bid 06-07-2008 11:01 PM

Yeah thats a good write up. They got what they had coming

westcoastinvader 06-07-2008 11:26 PM

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Yeah thats a good write up. They got what they had coming

It was a great day to watch racing, and Big Brown was a nice story in at least a few ways.

Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Secretariat, Citation and the other Triple Crown Winners before them, would agree.


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